Wendell Carter Jr - The Block Panther Edition

Chicagoat · Post #161 » by **Chicagoat** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:10 am

At least it wasn't Mikal. I'll give WCJ a chance. He's already a Bull and he's young enough for growth. One thing I'm worried about his quickness to defend the pick and roll.

Chi · Post #162 » by **Chi** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:11 am

fleet wrote:
Chi wrote:How can anyone with a brain watch what Horford has been doing and not like this pick?

If we had Brown Tatum Irving Hayward Rozier and Smart already we would love the pick

I see 1 (bench) player on that list that was there Before Horford...

And does it really matter what order you get your All-Stars in?

IcemanGervin · Post #163 » by **IcemanGervin** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:12 am

1 pick from Bamba. Mannnnnnnnnnnn

DanTown8587 · Post #164 » by **DanTown8587** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:13 am

Just not a pick that makes a ton of sense. The problem that you see the most with teams rebuilding is they draft guys and pigeon hole them to one spot. I don't think Carter is a bad basketball player but I think the odds he's a valuable one worthy of #7 is super rare. I'd much rather have Mikal or Knox and then when you do find the legit #1 guy, you have the makings of a team.

Lauri and Carter is really going to struggle long term. Carter isn't big enough or fast enough to be good at C. Every C in this league either is a huge body or exceptionally quick, Carter is neither. I just don't like this pick at all.

Post #165 » by **DuckIII** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:13 am

Susan wrote:
DuckIII wrote:
ozbull wrote:Still, even if he didn't play a game for two years, I would have taken the chance on Porter Jr.

I’m confident that back or no back, people will realize in time that MPJ just wasn’t a special prospect. One of the most overhyped players I’d seen. Ever.

Better prospect coming out, Porter or Dougie McBuckets?

Porter. But he’s still not an elite prospect and neither was McBuckets.

FYI, I was opposed to drafting McBuckets. I wanted Lavine. It’s just that after I saw McBuckets in SL, I thought he had the ability to become an excellent complimentary scorer. I was obviously wrong, if that’s what you are looking for. Not the first or last time.

Post #166 » by **HomoSapien** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:13 am

It’s not a sexy pick, but he’s got a great skill level. I think people are really sleeping on him.

Axl Rose · Post #167 » by **Axl Rose** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:13 am

jcuuofd wrote:I took the year off, but I'm back now and I'm starting out by calling out KC Johnson for not honoring ESPN's exclusivity agreement by announcing this pick on twitter before it had been called.

In all fairness we knew we were taking WCJ a long time ago :lol:

patagonia · Post #168 » by **patagonia** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:14 am

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pipfan · Post #169 » by **pipfan** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:14 am

We MUST keep Lopez this year. He is a rock, and will be a great mentor for Carter. We are in no rush

For those downplaying the Horford angle-if Carter is that good that is an AWESOME 7th pick. Horford has a shot at the HoF (obviously helped by his college play). If we got a 19 year old future Horford level player I am very happy

Chi · Post #170 » by **Chi** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:14 am

DanTown8587 wrote:Just not a pick that makes a ton of sense. The problem that you see the most with teams rebuilding is they draft guys and pigeon hole them to one spot. I don't think Carter is a bad basketball player but I think the odds he's a valuable one worthy of #7 is super rare. I'd much rather have Mikal or Knox and then when you do find the legit #1 guy, you have the makings of a team.

Lauri and Carter is really going to struggle long term. Carter isn't big enough or fast enough to be good at C. Every C in this league either is a huge body or exceptionally quick, Carter is neither. I just don't like this pick at all.

Yet Al Horford is a 4 time All Star and the anchor behind the best defense in the NBA... :noway:

Ugly Duckling · Post #171 » by **Ugly Duckling** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:14 am

detlef_schrempf wrote:Going to be so much better than Bamba, who is nothing but pie in the sky.

WCJ will be an amazing player. He's better than Bagley.

I agree with this 100% and have been saying it all along

TheSuzerain · Post #172 » by **TheSuzerain** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:14 am

Red Larrivee wrote:
nitetrain8603 wrote:Against who? The bad teams still playing archaic basketball?

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I'm so confused as to why you think Carter is some plodding center who can't defend. His biggest value came from the defensive end.

That remains to be seen. The Duke tape is pretty much worthless.

Ugly Duckling · Post #173 » by **Ugly Duckling** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:16 am

Axolotl wrote:Wendell Carter is my guy now. I think he'll be better than many anticipate.

For a tank year, yeah, sure I'd have preferred Doncic, but this was the 7th pick, and WCJ is the guy to take there.

I'll not be looking at the rear view mirror. Go Wendell!

Good, that's dangerous

BullHeaded · Post #174 » by **BullHeaded** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:17 am

blumeany wrote:
The Evidence wrote:League goes small and uptempo

Bulls select slow unathletic C

"BUT HE'S FROM DUKE!!!" - GarPax, probably

Is that what Krause said about Elton Brand?

Red Larrivee · Post #175 » by **Red Larrivee** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:18 am

TheSuzerain wrote:That remains to be seen. The Duke tape is pretty much worthless.

Maybe, but the current results are a lot more encouraging than discouraging. He rotates well, understands positioning, plays angles well, reacts quickly and shows solid overall IQ on that end. There's definitely some improvement he can make, but he's entering the league as a more than capable defensive player.

DanTown8587 · Post #176 » by **DanTown8587** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:18 am

Chi wrote:
DanTown8587 wrote:Just not a pick that makes a ton of sense. The problem that you see the most with teams rebuilding is they draft guys and pigeon hole them to one spot. I don't think Carter is a bad basketball player but I think the odds he's a valuable one worthy of #7 is super rare. I'd much rather have Mikal or Knox and then when you do find the legit #1 guy, you have the makings of a team.

Lauri and Carter is really going to struggle long term. Carter isn't big enough or fast enough to be good at C. Every C in this league either is a huge body or exceptionally quick, Carter is neither. I just don't like this pick at all.

Yet Al Horford is a 4 time All Star and the anchor behind the best defense in the NBA...

Al Horford is a vastly superior prospect and player to what Carter is. You can't really just say Carter = Horford when Horford was a lock #3 behind Oden/Durant and is actually good.

By this logic, Mikal Bridges was Klay Thompson and the Bulls let him go.

Red Larrivee · Post #177 » by **Red Larrivee** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:19 am

DanTown8587 wrote:Just not a pick that makes a ton of sense. The problem that you see the most with teams rebuilding is they draft guys and pigeon hole them to one spot. I don't think Carter is a bad basketball player but I think the odds he's a valuable one worthy of #7 is super rare. I'd much rather have Mikal or Knox and then when you do find the legit #1 guy, you have the makings of a team.

Lauri and Carter is really going to struggle long term. Carter isn't big enough or fast enough to be good at C. Every C in this league either is a huge body or exceptionally quick, Carter is neither. I just don't like this pick at all.

Carter is 6'10, 253. Wouldn't that qualify as a huge body? Unless you're referring to height, which he wouldn't be but his 9'1 standing reach and 7'5 wingspan aren't poor either.

Ugly Duckling · Post #178 » by **Ugly Duckling** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:19 am

It's not out of the realm of possibility that WCJ ends up being the best player from this draft. It's highly unlikely, but possible. That says a lot for the 7th pick

tedwilliams1999 · Post #179 » by **tedwilliams1999** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:19 am

The era of big men is returning; once the Warriors' and Rockets' age, we'll be left with an old school league again, and we're PERFECTLY suited for that. We have the perfect mix of old school size, and new age three point shooting from our PF and C positions.

Lauri and WCJ can both punish switches, and they can both hold their own on the defensive end. Not to mention the elite three point shooting that we'll have, allowing us to play 5 out, with sacrificing anything in terms of size and rebounding.

We still have a lot of pieces to go get, but I think this is a fantastic start to our rebuild.

Ugly Duckling · Post #180 » by **Ugly Duckling** » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:20 am

DanTown8587 wrote:
Chi wrote:
DanTown8587 wrote:Just not a pick that makes a ton of sense. The problem that you see the most with teams rebuilding is they draft guys and pigeon hole them to one spot. I don't think Carter is a bad basketball player but I think the odds he's a valuable one worthy of #7 is super rare. I'd much rather have Mikal or Knox and then when you do find the legit #1 guy, you have the makings of a team.

Lauri and Carter is really going to struggle long term. Carter isn't big enough or fast enough to be good at C. Every C in this league either is a huge body or exceptionally quick, Carter is neither. I just don't like this pick at all.

Yet Al Horford is a 4 time All Star and the anchor behind the best defense in the NBA...

Al Horford is a vastly superior prospect and player to what Carter is. You can't really just say Carter = Horford when Horford was a lock #3 behind Oden/Durant and is actually good.

By this logic, Mikal Bridges was Klay Thompson and the Bulls let him go.

Yeah I think the Horford comp is premature

Right pick?