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Re: Bulls Free Agency - Merged 

Post#161 » by weneeda2guard » Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:51 pm

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Although I'm tired of seeing our names everywhere

I would like this pick up, jeremi grant can really play well.

Unfortunately I think signing him spells the end for Portis
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Post#162 » by Chi town » Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:03 pm

Where is Grant going to play? Hes a 4 more than a 3
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Re: Bulls Free Agency - Merged 

Post#163 » by Chi town » Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:04 pm

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Although I'm tired of seeing our names everywhere

I would like this pick up, jeremi grant can really play well.

Unfortunately I think signing him spells the end for Portis


Which is fine and would be a good signing if we can turn Portis into a good SF
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Re: Bulls Free Agency - Merged 

Post#164 » by holv03 » Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:07 pm

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Chi town wrote:So how good are the Pacers with Aaron Gordon?


I would say they are a 50 win team in the east. If Lebron goes out West I could see them being even better. They could be a top 3 team in the East.


So Holv, how long do you think this Lavine contract will take?

If Bulls do let him walk will they push for a S&T or will they just let him go?

If he does walk what is their backup plan?


I believe the Lavine contract will be something done pretty quick unless money is a big issue which I doubt. Bulls value Lavine and believe he could become an elite player.

I don't think they will let him just walk. I see Lavine being a Bull next year.
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Re: Bulls Free Agency - Merged 

Post#165 » by MrFortune3 » Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:16 pm

Unless you are trading Portis this Grant interest makes no sense.
You have Lauri, Carter, Portis, Lopez and Felicio needing minutes.
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Post#166 » by kodo » Fri Jun 29, 2018 4:17 am

Grant is a SF wing. Doesn’t compete for minutes with our bigs.
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Post#167 » by MrFortune3 » Fri Jun 29, 2018 6:54 am

kodo wrote:Grant is a SF wing. Doesn’t compete for minutes with our bigs.


He's a PF. He can play SF at times, but his primary successful role is PF. He was even a small ball C last year at times.
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Post#168 » by erlim » Fri Jun 29, 2018 8:06 am

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kodo wrote:Grant is a SF wing. Doesn’t compete for minutes with our bigs.


He's a PF. He can play SF at times, but his primary successful role is PF. He was even a small ball C last year at times.


Man that really sounds like Harvey Grant.
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Post#169 » by kodo » Fri Jun 29, 2018 5:59 pm

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kodo wrote:Grant is a SF wing. Doesn’t compete for minutes with our bigs.


He's a PF. He can play SF at times, but his primary successful role is PF. He was even a small ball C last year at times.


He's a SF. 6' 8, 210 lbs. It's not just size, he has zero post-up ability, he's not a screen & roll player, and he averages 2-3 rebounds per game. There are plenty of SFs who permanently play at the 4, like Marvin Williams. But it doesn't make them a big man like Lauri or Kevin Love.

OKC permanently plays a SF at the 4, starting Melo. But the Bulls play traditional so Grant would be at his natural SF position here.
He's not a Center. We can play David Nwaba at the 5 if we want, he's still not center.

If we went small more often, I can see him being a PF for us but we're the opposite, we play extremely big & slow.
It's basically guaranteed that two of Lauri, Portis, Lopez, Carter, Felicio, Asik are playing in any lineup. The smallest Jerami would slide in to a lineup is at the 3.
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Post#170 » by CBS7 » Fri Jun 29, 2018 6:08 pm

MrFortune3 wrote:
kodo wrote:Grant is a SF wing. Doesn’t compete for minutes with our bigs.


He's a PF. He can play SF at times, but his primary successful role is PF. He was even a small ball C last year at times.


He spent 2% of his minutes at C the past 2 years compared to 17% and 44% at SF
He even spent a good amount of time at SG in his rookie year. 43% at SF and 48% at PF for his career.

From basketball reference. I think "Forward" is his correct position.
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Re: Bulls Free Agency - Merg 

Post#171 » by MrFortune3 » Fri Jun 29, 2018 8:02 pm

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kodo wrote:Grant is a SF wing. Doesn’t compete for minutes with our bigs.


He's a PF. He can play SF at times, but his primary successful role is PF. He was even a small ball C last year at times.


He's a SF. 6' 8, 210 lbs. It's not just size, he has zero post-up ability, he's not a screen & roll player, and he averages 2-3 rebounds per game. There are plenty of SFs who permanently play at the 4, like Marvin Williams. But it doesn't make them a big man like Lauri or Kevin Love.

OKC permanently plays a SF at the 4, starting Melo. But the Bulls play traditional so Grant would be at his natural SF position here.
He's not a Center. We can play David Nwaba at the 5 if we want, he's still not center.

If we went small more often, I can see him being a PF for us but we're the opposite, we play extremely big & slow.
It's basically guaranteed that two of Lauri, Portis, Lopez, Carter, Felicio, Asik are playing in any lineup. The smallest Jerami would slide in to a lineup is at the 3.


Usually when a player excels at a given role and the team that acquires or signs him changes his role, he becomes less effective. IE Jae Crowder last year in Cleveland vs Utah.
I highly doubt Fred is going to move Grant from PF to SF due to traditional basketball.

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kodo wrote:Grant is a SF wing. Doesn’t compete for minutes with our bigs.


He's a PF. He can play SF at times, but his primary successful role is PF. He was even a small ball C last year at times.


He spent 2% of his minutes at C the past 2 years compared to 17% and 44% at SF
He even spent a good amount of time at SG in his rookie year. 43% at SF and 48% at PF for his career.

From basketball reference. I think "Forward" is his correct position.


And yet that very same basketball reference has listed him as a PF since his 2nd year in the league.
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Re: Bulls Free Agency - Merged 

Post#172 » by NecessaryEvil » Fri Jun 29, 2018 8:06 pm

I see Denzel having a breakout season. I would like to see him as the main ball handler off the bench.
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Post#173 » by CBS7 » Fri Jun 29, 2018 8:20 pm

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kodo wrote:
MrFortune3 wrote:
He's a PF. He can play SF at times, but his primary successful role is PF. He was even a small ball C last year at times.


He's a SF. 6' 8, 210 lbs. It's not just size, he has zero post-up ability, he's not a screen & roll player, and he averages 2-3 rebounds per game. There are plenty of SFs who permanently play at the 4, like Marvin Williams. But it doesn't make them a big man like Lauri or Kevin Love.

OKC permanently plays a SF at the 4, starting Melo. But the Bulls play traditional so Grant would be at his natural SF position here.
He's not a Center. We can play David Nwaba at the 5 if we want, he's still not center.

If we went small more often, I can see him being a PF for us but we're the opposite, we play extremely big & slow.
It's basically guaranteed that two of Lauri, Portis, Lopez, Carter, Felicio, Asik are playing in any lineup. The smallest Jerami would slide in to a lineup is at the 3.


Usually when a player excels at a given role and the team that acquires or signs him changes his role, he becomes less effective. IE Jae Crowder last year in Cleveland vs Utah.
I highly doubt Fred is going to move Grant from PF to SF due to traditional basketball.

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MrFortune3 wrote:
He's a PF. He can play SF at times, but his primary successful role is PF. He was even a small ball C last year at times.


He spent 2% of his minutes at C the past 2 years compared to 17% and 44% at SF
He even spent a good amount of time at SG in his rookie year. 43% at SF and 48% at PF for his career.

From basketball reference. I think "Forward" is his correct position.


And yet that very same basketball reference has listed him as a PF since his 2nd year in the league.


Because 48%>43%. He's played both almost the same throughout his career.
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Post#174 » by erlim » Fri Jun 29, 2018 9:05 pm

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Post#175 » by Repeat 3-peat » Fri Jun 29, 2018 9:09 pm

erlim wrote:I can't even post without the page crashing and losing all my text.


Wait and see if LeBron goes to LA. This place may blow up.
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Post#176 » by erlim » Fri Jun 29, 2018 10:18 pm

Could we go a forward playing a guy like Jabari Parker or Aaron Gordon out of position (kinda) a whole season? I like them from a talent perspective, but their contracts seem huge.
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Post#177 » by samwana » Fri Jun 29, 2018 10:23 pm

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Uh uh, already lived through the MdDermott hell once, pick someone else to be our new Hinrich.


I said it before, but I'd be all for bringing Jamal Crawford back. Obviously, he's not the same confused kid as when he played WITH Fred Hoiberg on the Bulls. He seems to genuinely have a great basketball mind and great mentality. Dude seems like one of the most well adjusted people in the NBA, period. People don't have this long of careers by accident.

He's got a close friendship to Lavine, had a similar situation with his ACL, and has just won teammate of the year. For some reason, he's still really quick and mobile. He suits the modern NBA. He could be a tremendous influence in making sure some of our young guys get into the right mindset and habits to prolong their careers, and be a great mentor. I don't know, I'd rather take him than Lance Stevenson; they probably have a similar impact on wins and losses, but Lance doesn't seem like the best big brother type of figure---I don't know. And Rodney Hood will be expensive to outbid Cleveland, and would have much more of an affect of playing us out of the lotto than a lot of us felt Holliday and Lopez did last season.

I'm endeared by the idea of trading Holliday and replacing his spot on the roster with Jamal Crawford. It seems like, in the best case scenario, it would put more focus on the young core while simultaneously giving them more support for life and careers in the NBA. Maybe that's totally overselling it, but I really feel that to become a good team, we really need Dunn and Lavine to ball out and reach lofty potentials.


Why would Jamal want to come here??? his career is getting close to over.. he wants to compete and maybe win something,not to
play for average team in rebuild
And why do we want Jamal, he is at the end of his career and probably would like to contend somewhere, maybe even for a ring

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Post#178 » by erlim » Fri Jun 29, 2018 10:50 pm

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I said it before, but I'd be all for bringing Jamal Crawford back. Obviously, he's not the same confused kid as when he played WITH Fred Hoiberg on the Bulls. He seems to genuinely have a great basketball mind and great mentality. Dude seems like one of the most well adjusted people in the NBA, period. People don't have this long of careers by accident.

He's got a close friendship to Lavine, had a similar situation with his ACL, and has just won teammate of the year. For some reason, he's still really quick and mobile. He suits the modern NBA. He could be a tremendous influence in making sure some of our young guys get into the right mindset and habits to prolong their careers, and be a great mentor. I don't know, I'd rather take him than Lance Stevenson; they probably have a similar impact on wins and losses, but Lance doesn't seem like the best big brother type of figure---I don't know. And Rodney Hood will be expensive to outbid Cleveland, and would have much more of an affect of playing us out of the lotto than a lot of us felt Holliday and Lopez did last season.

I'm endeared by the idea of trading Holliday and replacing his spot on the roster with Jamal Crawford. It seems like, in the best case scenario, it would put more focus on the young core while simultaneously giving them more support for life and careers in the NBA. Maybe that's totally overselling it, but I really feel that to become a good team, we really need Dunn and Lavine to ball out and reach lofty potentials.


Why would Jamal want to come here??? his career is getting close to over.. he wants to compete and maybe win something,not to
play for average team in rebuild
And why do we want Jamal, he is at the end of his career and probably would like to contend somewhere, maybe even for a ring

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Post#179 » by ZOMG » Fri Jun 29, 2018 10:54 pm

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Post#180 » by sco » Sat Jun 30, 2018 2:11 am

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