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Post #161 » by **DASMACKDOWN** » Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:26 am

Dame is CRAZY. 61 pts.

If Steph didnt exist, he would be getting far more praise. And for a guy who hardly gets mentioned as a top 10 player in the league, he certainly is in my opinion.

Repeat 3-peat · Post #162 » by **Repeat 3-peat** » Wed Aug 12, 2020 6:55 am

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rtblues · Post #164 » by **rtblues** » Wed Aug 12, 2020 7:54 am

Seeing Giannis headbutt Mo Wagner instantly brought back memories of when he leveled Mike Dunleavy Jr. with a running start, linebacker type hit.

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Alcatraz17 · Post #165 » by **Alcatraz17** » Thu Aug 13, 2020 12:26 am

Can someone please help me here....I am feeling like an idiot...

As of Wednesday morning, Portland has played 73 games, Memphis and Suns 72. All three teams play 1 more game on Thursday.

As I understand it, the 8th and 9th seeded team will play each other for entry to playoffs. The 8th seed teams needs to only win once, while the 9th seem teams needs to win twice.

What am I missing? Portland gets to play 1 more game than Memphis and Suns, and then has the advantage of being 8th seed?
I know I am missing something. Please help! lol

ImSlower · Post #166 » by **ImSlower** » Thu Aug 13, 2020 12:58 am

As far as I can tell, you aren't missing anything. Portland gets an advantage simply because of that game. I'm selfishly rooting for them simply for Dame, but the Suns could beat Dallas tomorrow, go 8-0, and miss the playoffs simply because they don't have a chance to play an equal amount. Imagine if the Bulls were a 25 win team not a 22 win, we were in this bubble and beating every single challenger, and then f'in missed the playoffs because of it.

I know an argument can be made that the game pre-shutdown count just as much as these, and thus they simply shoulda won more in the 'normal' season. Sure, that makes sense. It won't resonatee with Suns fans who gotta be ridiculously happy to have their team firing on all cylinders.

Repeat 3-peat · Post #167 » by **Repeat 3-peat** » Thu Aug 13, 2020 1:49 am

rtblues wrote:Seeing Giannis headbutt Mo Wagner instantly brought back memories of when he leveled Mike Dunleavy Jr. with a running start, linebacker type hit.

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MDJ was on fire from three in that series, I don't blame Giannis :lol:

NecessaryEvil · Post #168 » by **NecessaryEvil** » Thu Aug 13, 2020 1:51 am

Burke saying Mike Malone and the Nuggets already view MPJ as a cornerstone along with Jokic

Did anyone see Bol go coast to coast verses a LAC guard? Jumped a passing lane and ran the floor like a guard

:banghead:

BigUps · Post #169 » by **BigUps** » Thu Aug 13, 2020 2:05 am

The amount of hate the board gave MPJ and Bol Bol during draft season was ridiculous. Yet, they are showing that they are going to be good players in the NBA barring any health concerns.

I watch them and can’t help but think that this board has been brainwashed by the GarPax years. Way too much infatuation with players with limited ceilings and low risk guys.

NecessaryEvil · Post #170 » by **NecessaryEvil** » Thu Aug 13, 2020 2:10 am

BigUps wrote:The amount of hate the board gave MPJ and Bol Bol during draft season was ridiculous. Yet, they are showing that they are going to be good players in the NBA barring any health concerns.

I watch them and can’t help but think that this board has been brainwashed by the GarPax years. Way too much infatuation with players with limited ceilings and low risk guys.

I had to stop going into the draft threads. Definitely appreciate all the insight but some people just had clear biases against these kids.

MPJ is NOT going to be the next KD but he's going to be damn good, DAMN GOOD, barring injury. Easily an all-star.

I wouldn't be at all suprised if Bol Bol broke out next season. These two are the talk of the league as far as young players go, which, atleast makes me feel good in knowing I was right

But still

BigUps · Post #171 » by **BigUps** » Thu Aug 13, 2020 2:21 am

NecessaryEvil wrote:
BigUps wrote:The amount of hate the board gave MPJ and Bol Bol during draft season was ridiculous. Yet, they are showing that they are going to be good players in the NBA barring any health concerns.

I watch them and can’t help but think that this board has been brainwashed by the GarPax years. Way too much infatuation with players with limited ceilings and low risk guys.

I had to stop going into the draft threads. Definitely appreciate all the insight but some people just had clear biases against these kids.

MPJ is NOT going to be the next KD but he's going to be damn good, DAMN GOOD, barring injury. Easily an all-star.

I wouldn't be at all suprised if Bol Bol broke out next season. These two are the talk of the league as far as young players go, which, atleast makes me feel good in knowing I was right

But still

Yep.

Meanwhile the board falls for limited players like WCJ and Lauri, while casting White into a microwave player. It’s frustrating.

Hold That · Post #172 » by **Hold That** » Thu Aug 13, 2020 3:41 am

BigUps wrote:The amount of hate the board gave MPJ and Bol Bol during draft season was ridiculous. Yet, they are showing that they are going to be good players in the NBA barring any health concerns.

I watch them and can’t help but think that this board has been brainwashed by the GarPax years. Way too much infatuation with players with limited ceilings and low risk guys.

This board is usually wrong when it comes to draft.. MPJ was such an obvious pick for the Bulls it’s sad we passed on that type of talent. The amount of people who were happy with Wendell was sad.. hell this board also hated Trae Young and was in love with JJJ.. but a lot of posters here do not follow the High School circuit and don’t realize how dominant MPJ was. The saddest part of all the Porters wanted to land in Chicago so badly they allowed the Bulls to take the only physical and be in charge of distributing the results around the league. Yet we still didn’t pick him. So happy Gar and pax are gone they lacked backbone and balls when it came to decision making. Always went the safe route.

Mark my words in a few years this board will be scoffing at Mikey Williams and Emani Bates for some odd reason.

MrFortune3 · Post #173 » by **MrFortune3** » Thu Aug 13, 2020 6:14 am

Hold That wrote:
BigUps wrote:The amount of hate the board gave MPJ and Bol Bol during draft season was ridiculous. Yet, they are showing that they are going to be good players in the NBA barring any health concerns.

I watch them and can’t help but think that this board has been brainwashed by the GarPax years. Way too much infatuation with players with limited ceilings and low risk guys.

This board is usually wrong when it comes to draft.. MPJ was such an obvious pick for the Bulls it’s sad we passed on that type of talent. The amount of people who were happy with Wendell was sad.. hell this board also hated Trae Young and was in love with JJJ.. but a lot of posters here do not follow the High School circuit and don’t realize how dominant MPJ was. The saddest part of all the Porters wanted to land in Chicago so badly they allowed the Bulls to take the only physical and be in charge of distributing the results around the league. Yet we still didn’t pick him. So happy Gar and pax are gone they lacked backbone and balls when it came to decision making. Always went the safe route.

Mark my words in a few years this board will be scoffing at Mikey Williams and Emani Bates for some odd reason.

The MPJ hate was at best insane. I had no issue with the WCJ pick, still don't. I think he will be a heck of a player in the league but we need a coach who can develop players.

Jeffster81 · Post #174 » by **Jeffster81** » Thu Aug 13, 2020 6:51 am

Hold That wrote:
BigUps wrote:The amount of hate the board gave MPJ and Bol Bol during draft season was ridiculous. Yet, they are showing that they are going to be good players in the NBA barring any health concerns.

I watch them and can’t help but think that this board has been brainwashed by the GarPax years. Way too much infatuation with players with limited ceilings and low risk guys.

This board is usually wrong when it comes to draft.. MPJ was such an obvious pick for the Bulls it’s sad we passed on that type of talent. The amount of people who were happy with Wendell was sad.. hell this board also hated Trae Young and was in love with JJJ.. but a lot of posters here do not follow the High School circuit and don’t realize how dominant MPJ was. The saddest part of all the Porters wanted to land in Chicago so badly they allowed the Bulls to take the only physical and be in charge of distributing the results around the league. Yet we still didn’t pick him. So happy Gar and pax are gone they lacked backbone and balls when it came to decision making. Always went the safe route.

Given the medical staff at the time of that draft, the Bulls would probably have killed MPJ. So it was probably best for MPJ NOT to be drafted by the Bulls. I don't regret the Bulls passing on MPJ at the time of the draft and still don't regret the miss. I still believe this guy will have trouble staying healthy.

BigUps · Post #175 » by **BigUps** » Thu Aug 13, 2020 2:45 pm

MrFortune3 wrote:
Hold That wrote:
BigUps wrote:The amount of hate the board gave MPJ and Bol Bol during draft season was ridiculous. Yet, they are showing that they are going to be good players in the NBA barring any health concerns.

I watch them and can’t help but think that this board has been brainwashed by the GarPax years. Way too much infatuation with players with limited ceilings and low risk guys.

This board is usually wrong when it comes to draft.. MPJ was such an obvious pick for the Bulls it’s sad we passed on that type of talent. The amount of people who were happy with Wendell was sad.. hell this board also hated Trae Young and was in love with JJJ.. but a lot of posters here do not follow the High School circuit and don’t realize how dominant MPJ was. The saddest part of all the Porters wanted to land in Chicago so badly they allowed the Bulls to take the only physical and be in charge of distributing the results around the league. Yet we still didn’t pick him. So happy Gar and pax are gone they lacked backbone and balls when it came to decision making. Always went the safe route.

Mark my words in a few years this board will be scoffing at Mikey Williams and Emani Bates for some odd reason.

The MPJ hate was at best insane. I had no issue with the WCJ pick, still don't. I think he will be a heck of a player in the league but we need a coach who can develop players.

The MPJ hate was primarily around legitimate concerns on his back. I get why people had him lower on their draft boards, but there is a time when you take him and roll the dice. We were in a place to do that, but the organization (and this board) is largely concerned with not "missing" on a pick versus hitting a home run.

Bol Bol was similar. A big man with a foot injury and a frail build. However, the board consistently overrates strength in todays NBA. Its important, but its just not that important when you can shoot and are skilled in other ways.

Ultimately, talent is what wins out. Raw talent.

Dresden · Post #176 » by **Dresden** » Thu Aug 13, 2020 2:46 pm

Hold That wrote:
BigUps wrote:The amount of hate the board gave MPJ and Bol Bol during draft season was ridiculous. Yet, they are showing that they are going to be good players in the NBA barring any health concerns.

I watch them and can’t help but think that this board has been brainwashed by the GarPax years. Way too much infatuation with players with limited ceilings and low risk guys.

This board is usually wrong when it comes to draft.. MPJ was such an obvious pick for the Bulls it’s sad we passed on that type of talent. The amount of people who were happy with Wendell was sad.. hell this board also hated Trae Young and was in love with JJJ.. but a lot of posters here do not follow the High School circuit and don’t realize how dominant MPJ was. The saddest part of all the Porters wanted to land in Chicago so badly they allowed the Bulls to take the only physical and be in charge of distributing the results around the league. Yet we still didn’t pick him. So happy Gar and pax are gone they lacked backbone and balls when it came to decision making. Always went the safe route.

Mark my words in a few years this board will be scoffing at Mikey Williams and Emani Bates for some odd reason.

Every time it was pointed out how dominant MPJ was in high school, the typical response here was "big deal, he's doing this against players who are 6'2", or "high school stats don't mean anything". I mean, it was obvious watching the tapes how skilled he was for his size, but a lot of people just refused to acknowledge that.

wonderboy2 · Post #177 » by **wonderboy2** » Thu Aug 13, 2020 2:49 pm

Damien Lillard playing like the best player in the league right now. Just an amazing player.

FriedRise · Post #178 » by **FriedRise** » Thu Aug 13, 2020 5:25 pm

Hold That wrote:
BigUps wrote:The amount of hate the board gave MPJ and Bol Bol during draft season was ridiculous. Yet, they are showing that they are going to be good players in the NBA barring any health concerns.

I watch them and can’t help but think that this board has been brainwashed by the GarPax years. Way too much infatuation with players with limited ceilings and low risk guys.

This board is usually wrong when it comes to draft.. MPJ was such an obvious pick for the Bulls it’s sad we passed on that type of talent. The amount of people who were happy with Wendell was sad.. hell this board also hated Trae Young and was in love with JJJ.. but a lot of posters here do not follow the High School circuit and don’t realize how dominant MPJ was. The saddest part of all the Porters wanted to land in Chicago so badly they allowed the Bulls to take the only physical and be in charge of distributing the results around the league. Yet we still didn’t pick him. So happy Gar and pax are gone they lacked backbone and balls when it came to decision making. Always went the safe route.

Mark my words in a few years this board will be scoffing at Mikey Williams and Emani Bates for some odd reason.

I've got a formula for you:

1) Pick a popular prospect (Luka)
2) Find one weakness (he looks slow)
3) Focus only on that one weakness and argue that it'll be the one thing that will completely hamper his NBA career (he can never break down NBA defenses)
4) Downplay all strengths, then tie it back to his one weakness (how can he get a shot off or pass accurately if he's so unathletic and can never shake off his defender?)
5) Pick somebody with a marginally better trait but worse off everywhere else, obsess (JJJ's athleticism)

MrFortune3 · Post #179 » by **MrFortune3** » Thu Aug 13, 2020 6:30 pm

BigUps wrote:
MrFortune3 wrote:
Hold That wrote:
This board is usually wrong when it comes to draft.. MPJ was such an obvious pick for the Bulls it’s sad we passed on that type of talent. The amount of people who were happy with Wendell was sad.. hell this board also hated Trae Young and was in love with JJJ.. but a lot of posters here do not follow the High School circuit and don’t realize how dominant MPJ was. The saddest part of all the Porters wanted to land in Chicago so badly they allowed the Bulls to take the only physical and be in charge of distributing the results around the league. Yet we still didn’t pick him. So happy Gar and pax are gone they lacked backbone and balls when it came to decision making. Always went the safe route.

Mark my words in a few years this board will be scoffing at Mikey Williams and Emani Bates for some odd reason.

The MPJ hate was at best insane. I had no issue with the WCJ pick, still don't. I think he will be a heck of a player in the league but we need a coach who can develop players.

The MPJ hate was primarily around legitimate concerns on his back. I get why people had him lower on their draft boards, but there is a time when you take him and roll the dice. We were in a place to do that, but the organization (and this board) is largely concerned with not "missing" on a pick versus hitting a home run.

Bol Bol was similar. A big man with a foot injury and a frail build. However, the board consistently overrates strength in todays NBA. Its important, but its just not that important when you can shoot and are skilled in other ways.

Ultimately, talent is what wins out. Raw talent.

No, it was not just his back. People were saying he didn't dominate enough in HS, others said he played against midgets and his highlights were not impressive. The back issue was a launching point for some but the hate went beyond that.

BigUps · Post #180 » by **BigUps** » Thu Aug 13, 2020 6:57 pm

MrFortune3 wrote:
BigUps wrote:
MrFortune3 wrote:
The MPJ hate was at best insane. I had no issue with the WCJ pick, still don't. I think he will be a heck of a player in the league but we need a coach who can develop players.

The MPJ hate was primarily around legitimate concerns on his back. I get why people had him lower on their draft boards, but there is a time when you take him and roll the dice. We were in a place to do that, but the organization (and this board) is largely concerned with not "missing" on a pick versus hitting a home run.

Bol Bol was similar. A big man with a foot injury and a frail build. However, the board consistently overrates strength in todays NBA. Its important, but its just not that important when you can shoot and are skilled in other ways.

Ultimately, talent is what wins out. Raw talent.

No, it was not just his back. People were saying he didn't dominate enough in HS, others said he played against midgets and his highlights were not impressive. The back issue was a launching point for some but the hate went beyond that.

Sure, but the back was a massive concern for many. I'll toss myself into that camp too. It wasn't the initial injury, it was multiple injuries. Heck, his back could still severely limit his career, but that talent is so nice I don't care. I wish we had it.