Options to fix the PF hole

[JohnnyKILLroy]

RHJ is an option I think.

He can play both the 4/5 and he can defend well.

His offence is pretty bad though. Only good under the basket.

I’m ok with that we need some size and length on defense. Last game Lonzo had to guard Randle

[sco]

I've had a hard time separating the 2 issues of:

1) Pat is our best chance of developing a future allstar talent from the draft, for the next several years.

2) Pat has been WAY short of showing allstar talent thus far and been a negative in terms of this team winning.

So I am totally pissed that we've lost a developmental year for Pat, like we did for Valentine, Dunn, Lauri and WCJ (and probably more)...and I am 100% it negatively impacted all of them. And look, nobody (other than our hot takes crew here) thinks this will have any long term impact on his career, so there's that...and, the chances of him having a more serious injury this season are now very low.

On the flipside, I (feel bad that I) am sorta excited to see how this team can play with a PF who is likely better that Pat would have been this season. If I could find a guy who could put up 12.3PPG 6.4RB 1.8BLK with 69%FG% and 60%3PT%, I'd be thrilled. Oh wait, those are Javonte's per 36 stats! I actually had no idea until I just looked. And I hate lying with statistics too, but this dude has done exactly what our starting line-up needed ever since pre-season. I think getting his monster defense in the starting lineup will really help Ball, who I worry about, taking on bigger guys every night.

[heir_jordan22]

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I think adding Harry Giles is a great idea. We can figure out a bigger mover later in the season if necessary and not panic-trade our assets (expiring contracts).

[Senor Chang]

I'd like to get Jarrett Allen on this team without having to give up Paw.

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[LateNight]

RHJ is an option I think.

He can play both the 4/5 and he can defend well.

His offence is pretty bad though. Only good under the basket.

I’m ok with that we need some size and length on defense. Last game Lonzo had to guard Randle

RHJ is 6'6.

[LateNight]

Bell dropped out of the league because he got into shouting matches with the coaching staff during games, stole from hotels, then tried to blame the coaches for the items, and when confronted he blamed Klay Thompson.

He was basically a poor human being.

This is a somewhat inaccurate summary - it's not quite as devious as you made it sound. Bell tried to charge "a candle" to Mike Brown's room, then lied about it and it spiraled out of control. He signed it to his room then changed the charge and later said he thought he was making a joke (because Klay had done that a couple times as a bit).

You can read a full breakdown here:

https://www.knbr.com/2021/02/17/andrew-bogut-reveals-what-really-happened-in-jordan-bell-mike-brown-hotel-charge-scandal/

He may be immature and kind of an idiot, but I don't know that he's the locker room cancer that comment made him sound like

[ChettheJet]

I've had a hard time separating the 2 issues of:

1) Pat is our best chance of developing a future allstar talent from the draft, for the next several years.

2) Pat has been WAY short of showing allstar talent thus far and been a negative in terms of this team winning.

So I am totally pissed that we've lost a developmental year for Pat, like we did for Valentine, Dunn, Lauri and WCJ (and probably more)...and I am 100% it negatively impacted all of them. And look, nobody (other than our hot takes crew here) thinks this will have any long term impact on his career, so there's that...and, the chances of him having a more serious injury this season are now very low.

On the flipside, I (feel bad that I) am sorta excited to see how this team can play with a PF who is likely better that Pat would have been this season. If I could find a guy who could put up 12.3PPG 6.4RB 1.8BLK with 69%FG% and 60%3PT%, I'd be thrilled. Oh wait, those are Javonte's per 36 stats! I actually had no idea until I just looked. And I hate lying with statistics too, but this dude has done exactly what our starting line-up needed ever since pre-season. I think getting his monster defense in the starting lineup will really help Ball, who I worry about, taking on bigger guys every night.

Point 1, that's what you eventually expect of of your #4 pick even realizing he didn't start in high school or college

point 2, once you fully admit that he didn't start in high school or college you should be able to understand he needs some development time and isn't gong to consistently grow to an all star in a year and 4 games. For as little practice and 0-2 on training camps I think he learned a lot as a rookie and he's been held back to start this year by having 4 superior veterans on the floor with him who are all playing together for the first time. If he was still playing he would still the fifth guy to find his place because the other 4 know they're supposed to be carrying the team.

People need to admit that the Bulls started last year with virtually the same team except for PW that finished the Boylen/GarPax era. Sorry but he showed up as the first choice of the new organization and on a very bad team. If you expected him to make huge gains as a rookie with that bunch around him, you missed the boat. And after the deadline deals and by draft night this year you should have gotten on board that the roster except for Zach and Coby was different for a reason so everybody was going to have to find their place on this roster.

I think you're VERY unrealistic if you think you're gong to see the Bulls with the type of PF you think they need. At best they're going to get a stop gap guy in a trade for DJJ or Brown or Green. Anybody they might sign who isn't on a roster has been passed over by 29 other teams for a lot of reasons. If they move Coby now for a replacement PF in three months all we'll hear here is how they could really use his scoring on the second unit.

This is the time to be creative, and I think AK showed in the FA market that he's more than capable of that. What I imagine is that he calls Vuc, Zach, Demar and Lonzo into his office and asks them what they think of the the guys on a list of 10-12 guys, most that they have played with or against and see who they think could help. Or if they can come up with some new names. He ha to figure how much or how little he would have to give up to get any of them and then he has to balance out cost and benefit.

[biggestbullsfan]

We need a cheap serviceable solution, not a permanent option at PF. Don’t give up any assets until we get further into the season and see how we compare to other teams and how healthy we are.

[JohnnyKILLroy]

His offence is pretty bad though. Only good under the basket.

I’m ok with that we need some size and length on defense. Last game Lonzo had to guard Randle

RHJ is 6'6.

6-6/6-7

7-2 wingspan built like a tank. Can guard 3/4-small ball 5s. I’m familiar with RHJ. We could use him defensively.

Do you want Lonzo guarding big wings and 4s all season?

[LateNight]

So, other than James Ennis, Mike Scott, Patrick Pattersons, RHJ... Who else is out there? Well, there's Marquese Chriss, Jordan Bell and Harry Giles. Or, if we look to the G-league we have:

-Amir Johnson : He's playing in the G-league. Might be solid if we just want defense and some rebounding. Experienced player, good locker room guy. Not young and athletic, doesn't stretch the floor.

-Devin Robinson (6'8): Athletic, dropped numbers in the g-league. Competent 3-point shooter (no volume) - high FG%. Averaged a little under 9 rebounds and 1 block per game. But he played for Billy Donovan in college and Donovan was super critical of him in the media.

-Jarrod Uthoff (6'9): In the G-league he shot 38% from 3 on 5+ attempts per game. Averaged a little under 9 rebounds and 1 block per game. But I don't know that he's really slowing anybody down on defense in the NBA.

Now, are any of these guys better than Tyler Cook? Theoretically, Robinson and Uthoff can both stretch the floor more - not sure if they're actually better inside.

We could try to poach some two-way players (Mamadi Diakite would've been interesting, but he's injured now). Simi and Jakarr Sampson are available. Vonleh is like two weeks into a contract in China. I don't know who's available internationally.

Outside of guys like that, I think you have to trade.

[LateNight]

I’m ok with that we need some size and length on defense. Last game Lonzo had to guard Randle

RHJ is 6'6.

6-6/6-7

7-2 wingspan built like a tank. Can guard 3/4-small ball 5s. I’m familiar with RHJ. We could use him defensively.

Do you want Lonzo guarding big wings and 4s all season?

I'm not against RHJ in theory (really liked him on the Nets) - but if you're worried about small ball, I'm not sure he solves that problem.

[heir_jordan22]

So, other than James Ennis, Mike Scott, Patrick Pattersons, RHJ... Who else is out there? Well, there's Marquese Chriss, Jordan Bell and Harry Giles. Or, if we look to the G-league we have:

-Amir Johnson : He's playing in the G-league. Might be solid if we just want defense and some rebounding. Experienced player, good locker room guy. Not young and athletic, doesn't stretch the floor.

-Devin Robinson (6'8): Athletic, dropped numbers in the g-league. Competent 3-point shooter (no volume) - high FG%. Averaged a little under 9 rebounds and 1 block per game. But he played for Billy Donovan in college and Donovan was super critical of him in the media.

-Jarrod Uthoff (6'9): In the G-league he shot 38% from 3 on 5+ attempts per game. Averaged a little under 9 rebounds and 1 block per game. But I don't know that he's really slowing anybody down on defense in the NBA.

Now, are any of these guys better than Tyler Cook? Theoretically, Robinson and Uthoff can both stretch the floor more - not sure if they're actually better inside.

We could try to poach some two-way players (Mamadi Diakite would've been interesting, but he's injured now). Simi and Jakarr Sampson are available. Vonleh is like two weeks into a contract in China. I don't know who's available internationally.

Outside of guys like that, I think you have to trade.

The Wizards and Kings both have a ton of bigs and could potentially be a trade partner

[Clint Eastwood]

“The Wizards and Kings both have a ton of bigs and could potentially be a trade partner”

Montrezl Harrell would be such a perfect fit for us.

[TheJordanRule]

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I think adding Harry Giles is a great idea. We can figure out a bigger mover later in the season if necessary and not panic-trade our assets (expiring contracts).

Would love it if we did this!

[JohnnyKILLroy]

RHJ is 6'6.

6-6/6-7

7-2 wingspan built like a tank. Can guard 3/4-small ball 5s. I’m familiar with RHJ. We could use him defensively.

Do you want Lonzo guarding big wings and 4s all season?

I'm not against RHJ in theory (really liked him on the Nets) - but if you're worried about small ball, I'm not sure he solves that problem.

I think he works both ways.

Small ball he can hang with 4/5s

Big ball he can guard 3/4s

Caruso Green TBJ DJJ he’s significantly bigger than all those guys.

Lonzo’s a great defender but he’s a little light to be banging with bigger dudes

[LateNight]

“The Wizards and Kings both have a ton of bigs and could potentially be a trade partner”

Montrezl Harrell would be such a perfect fit for us.

Wizards: I don't see them moving Montrezl. They sort of stumbled into having a real team again and he's part of it. I don't think they can move Gafford after the extension. And Thomas Bryant is injured (plus his defense is ... questionable). That leaves Isaiah Todd or Anthony Gill, and I'm not sure they solve our problems.

As for the Kings... Dont need Len, not into Bagley. They just signed Holmes so I don't think he can be traded. Which leaves Tristan Thompson. He might work as a replacement PF - not sure what it costs. A lot of Celtics fans couldn't wait to get rid of the guy

[MalagaBulls]

I digress but Niko is balling. Really miss that 2 or 3 option.

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[TheSuzerain]

His offence is pretty bad though. Only good under the basket.

I’m ok with that we need some size and length on defense. Last game Lonzo had to guard Randle

RHJ is 6'6.

With a 7'2" wingspan.

[bearadonisdna]

Harry Giles yes.

[Dan Z]

I just want to mention Paul Reed again. He's barely playing on the Sixers so maybe they'd trade him in a minor deal? In 2021 he was the G League MVP. Bonus that he also went to DePaul.