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Re: Around The NBA : 2024-25 Season 

Post#161 » by Gant » Thu Mar 20, 2025 10:06 pm

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Infinity2152 wrote:Celtics are on a 3 game win streak and are 6 games behind Cavs who are on a 3 game losing streak. Meaning the gap was 12 only three games ago, so this assumption Celtics will make the Finals is pretty big. Not to mention, there's a huge monetary difference between making the Finals and winning a championship in terms of how the team will profit. Is it worth an extra $100-$150 mill to be the number 2 seed, vs the number 4? They don't look to be better next year if they bring all players back, they'll be even older.

Cavs and Knicks both look to be at least as good, if not better next year than they are this year. Next year:

Cavs core: Darius Garland (26), Donovan Mitchell (29), Deandre Hunter (27), Evan Mobley (24), Jarrett Allen (27)

Knicks core: Jalen Brunson (29), OG Anunoby (28), Josh Hart (31), Mikal Bridges (28), KAT (29), Mitchell Robinson (27)

Celtics core: Jrue Holiday (36), Derrick White (31), Jaylen Brown (29), Jayson Tatum (28), Porzingas (31)

Very dependent on Porzingas health. Last three years he played 57, 65, 51 games and he'll be older with more wear and tear now. He's played 34 of a possible 59 games this season. They still have Horford, so they can survive for now.

Celtics have the worst bench of the three and will have the least room to add


You're aging a couple of players a little bit. Holiday will be 35 next season, Porzingis will be 30.

This season the Celtics bench has a net rating of +12.3, by far the best in the league. Cavs bench is 3rd at +2.8. Knick bench 11th at -3.7.

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/nba-bench-scoring-team-net-ratings-2025


There will be a ton of pressure to trade off someone. IMO, the most likely candidates to be moved are Hauser, then maybe Holiday due to age. Porzingis is a possibility too, but he's impossible to replicate.

Axios says the value of the team from this sale is really 7.3 billion, as Chisolm is buying only the Grousbeck's controlling portion.

https://www.axios.com/2025/03/20/boston-celtics-record-sale

Everyone following the Celtics was hoping for Steve Pagliuca, one of the current minority owners, to win the bid.

Chisolm has said the right things so far though. We'll see. He reportedly is buying a house in Boston to attend as many games as he can. That's a good sign, because he can't submarine the team and sit comfortably watching a game in the Boston Garden.

It was also reported that Chisolm really is a huge lifelong Celtics fan, and has an "encyclopedic knowledge" of the team's history.

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You're right, checked the dates. Jrue turns 36 next June. Porzingas 31 next August. My bad. :)
Bench is solid with Horford. If they can bring Horford back, he can last, and Porzingas is healthy, they should be very good.

Hauser does sound like the best trade candidate actually. He's $10 mill next year, who even knows how much money in actual savings that would be.


I'm no good at this tax stuff, but someone wrote that Hauser's 10 million would cost the Celtics $90 million (insert as many exclamation marks as necessary). Other players cost more.
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Re: Around The NBA : 2024-25 Season 

Post#162 » by Ice Man » Sun Mar 23, 2025 2:33 am

Yep, the Warriors game was as expected. No Steph, which means Jimmy + trash. The Dubs were +11 in Butler's 37 minutes, -20 in the 11 minutes he was off the court.

Well, when your #1 priority is getting paid, that's the sort of team that you will end up at.
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Post#163 » by Ice Man » Sun Mar 23, 2025 1:39 pm

Also, Kuminga is fools' gold. He's going to get paid a lot based his alleged potential, but he's not going to deliver on that promise. He doesn't have a head for the game.
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Re: Around The NBA : 2024-25 Season 

Post#164 » by Dan Z » Mon Mar 24, 2025 8:07 pm

Ice Man wrote:Also, Kuminga is fools' gold. He's going to get paid a lot based his alleged potential, but he's not going to deliver on that promise. He doesn't have a head for the game.


When I watch him he often bullies his way to the basket and has some success doing that, but there's a limit to that style of play.

Maybe he improves...who knows... I agree with you that he'll most likely be overpaid. At the past deadline Golden State should've asked around to see what kind of value he had.
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Post#165 » by Ice Man » Mon Mar 24, 2025 8:21 pm

One of my pet theories is that 80% of the time when fans talk about teams tanking, they are projecting. It is what THEY would do, but that is not what the team is doing.

A perfect example would be the Spurs, who were widely accused of openly tanking after Fox was shelved for the season. Fox gone, you know how Pops is, the Spurs aren't dumb like the Bulls, etc. Well ... the Spurs have won 5 out of 7 games since Fox was sidelined. If that's tanking, they sure at bad at it.
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Re: Around The NBA : 2024-25 Season 

Post#166 » by Dan Z » Mon Mar 24, 2025 11:47 pm

Ice Man wrote:One of my pet theories is that 80% of the time when fans talk about teams tanking, they are projecting. It is what THEY would do, but that is not what the team is doing.

A perfect example would be the Spurs, who were widely accused of openly tanking after Fox was shelved for the season. Fox gone, you know how Pops is, the Spurs aren't dumb like the Bulls, etc. Well ... the Spurs have won 5 out of 7 games since Fox was sidelined. If that's tanking, they sure at bad at it.


The Spurs understood that their season ended when Wemby went down, so theyre looking towards the future. It's why they opted to have Fox get surgery rather than gut out the rest of the season.

Is that tanking? Depends on your definition of tanking. Whatever you call it I wish the Bulls did more of that the past few seasons.
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Re: Around The NBA : 2024-25 Season 

Post#167 » by NecessaryEvil » Tue Mar 25, 2025 12:47 am

Read on Twitter


This sh** is so dumb.
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Re: Around The NBA : 2024-25 Season 

Post#168 » by Infinity2152 » Tue Mar 25, 2025 4:10 am

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This sh** is so dumb.


It's ridiculous. Cade's playing a few more minutes this year.

Per 36 last year: 24.4 pts, 8.1 assists, 4.7 rebounds 35% from 3, 1 steal, .4 blocks, eFG .50
Per 36 this year: 26.3 pts, 9.4 assists, 6.3 rebounds 35% from 3, 1 steal, .8 blocks, eFG .51

Most improved? To be fair, Coby's per 36 is not much higher than it was last year either. Same with Herro. Daniels probably made the biggest jump, and it wasn't huge.
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Post#169 » by drosestruts » Tue Mar 25, 2025 3:00 pm

anyone else still holding out hope on the slim chance of Portland sneaking into the play-in and earning a playoff spot that then goes to the Bulls?
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Re: Around The NBA : 2024-25 Season 

Post#170 » by DASMACKDOWN » Tue Mar 25, 2025 3:06 pm

I felt so bad for Juju Watkins. Devastating.

That gave me flashbacks to D-Rose going down.

But Paige made her way back. I think Juju will do the same.
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Re: Around The NBA : 2024-25 Season 

Post#171 » by MrSparkle » Tue Mar 25, 2025 3:17 pm

drosestruts wrote:anyone else still holding out hope on the slim chance of Portland sneaking into the play-in and earning a playoff spot that then goes to the Bulls?


No. They currently have a 4% chance of making 10-seed.

There are 10 games left, and the Suns/Kings/Mavs are up 3 games with no desire to miss the play-in. Mavs got Davis back, who insists on a play-in push. Suppose they all go .500, Portland would have to go 8-2 just to tie (not gonna bother looking at tie breakers).

Atleast 26 or 27 look like they’ll deliver the 15-20th pick. Its (low) trade value increased due to Blazers’ improvement. Of course they could just as easily have a setback and stay in lotto land.
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Re: Around The NBA : 2024-25 Season 

Post#172 » by jc23 » Tue Mar 25, 2025 4:37 pm

drosestruts wrote:anyone else still holding out hope on the slim chance of Portland sneaking into the play-in and earning a playoff spot that then goes to the Bulls?

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Re: Around The NBA : 2024-25 Season 

Post#173 » by Jcool0 » Wed Mar 26, 2025 2:43 am

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Re: Around The NBA : 2024-25 Season 

Post#174 » by Muzbar » Wed Mar 26, 2025 3:10 am

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This sh** is so dumb.

Agreed.

Dyson Daniels should be the clear favourite.

The most improved thing about Cade this year is his teams win total. Don't get me wrong, hell of a player, but he's only marginal improved statistically overall. Unlike The Great Barrier Thief.
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Post#175 » by NecessaryEvil » Wed Mar 26, 2025 3:19 am

Sacramento stinks
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Re: Around The NBA : 2024-25 Season 

Post#176 » by Red8911 » Wed Mar 26, 2025 4:27 am

NecessaryEvil wrote:Sacramento stinks

Yeah, I really don’t know why they would revisit the failed Demar/ Zach duo. It was already proven for what 3 years that these two don’t work together lol.

Also last year Demar was so upset saying that at this point of his career he just wants to win but he ended up in a team that is pretty much where the bulls were and now actually worse than the Bulls.

Both Demar/ Zach are definitely pissed that these young Bulls are playing well and better without them right now.
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Post#177 » by jordanwilliams6 » Wed Mar 26, 2025 4:33 am

This Zach trade is going to ruin Sacramento. After an early honeymoon period, he's gone back to lazy & passive Zach.

-31 today with all other starters in single digits. I feel bad for Lavine because he's a good guy but my god I don't think I've ever seen a 'star' player impact winning less than he does.
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Re: Around The NBA : 2024-25 Season 

Post#178 » by BullChit » Wed Mar 26, 2025 5:32 am

jordanwilliams6 wrote:This Zach trade is going to ruin Sacramento. After an early honeymoon period, he's gone back to lazy & passive Zach.

-31 today with all other starters in single digits. I feel bad for Lavine because he's a good guy but my god I don't think I've ever seen a 'star' player impact winning less than he does.


Always was a massive fan of Zach the person and Zach the potential... When he's on he makes parts of the game of basketball look so smooth and easy...

But yeah I now realise the anomoly that is Zach Lavine and winning. I don't think it's entirely his fault. Kobe is his idol and let's face it to be a Kobe clone (or an MJ clone) you need a killer instinct that is relentless and I don't think Zach has it.
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Re: Around The NBA : 2024-25 Season 

Post#179 » by PaKii94 » Wed Mar 26, 2025 6:27 am

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jordanwilliams6 wrote:This Zach trade is going to ruin Sacramento. After an early honeymoon period, he's gone back to lazy & passive Zach.

-31 today with all other starters in single digits. I feel bad for Lavine because he's a good guy but my god I don't think I've ever seen a 'star' player impact winning less than he does.


Always was a massive fan of Zach the person and Zach the potential... When he's on he makes parts of the game of basketball look so smooth and easy...

But yeah I now realise the anomoly that is Zach Lavine and winning. I don't think it's entirely his fault. Kobe is his idol and let's face it to be a Kobe clone (or an MJ clone) you need a killer instinct that is relentless and I don't think Zach has it.


He doesn't have the right pieces around him guys. It's not his fault
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Re: Around The NBA : 2024-25 Season 

Post#180 » by Dan Z » Wed Mar 26, 2025 6:52 am

PaKii94 wrote:
BullChit wrote:
jordanwilliams6 wrote:This Zach trade is going to ruin Sacramento. After an early honeymoon period, he's gone back to lazy & passive Zach.

-31 today with all other starters in single digits. I feel bad for Lavine because he's a good guy but my god I don't think I've ever seen a 'star' player impact winning less than he does.


Always was a massive fan of Zach the person and Zach the potential... When he's on he makes parts of the game of basketball look so smooth and easy...

But yeah I now realise the anomoly that is Zach Lavine and winning. I don't think it's entirely his fault. Kobe is his idol and let's face it to be a Kobe clone (or an MJ clone) you need a killer instinct that is relentless and I don't think Zach has it.


He doesn't have the right pieces around him guys. It's not his fault


In addition to being a teammate of DDR again he also went to a team with no point guard (unless you count Devin Carter, but he's.a rookie).

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