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Post#161 » by Jcool0 » Tue Apr 1, 2025 10:58 pm

yifsuibfe1 wrote:Any Marc Stein subscribers? Seems like there’s some info related to Giddey and Coby based on his tweet thumbnail.


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Post#162 » by Chi town » Fri Apr 4, 2025 1:57 am

Congrats to Coby for doing Coby things.

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Post#163 » by Chi town » Fri Apr 4, 2025 2:00 am

Great interview. Sounds like Coby really wants to be great. He’s starting to believe he can be.


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Post#165 » by jump » Sun Apr 6, 2025 4:26 pm

It’s been said before, but Coby’s new found ability to drive to the basket, score or get fouled, has changed his game. I no longer worry about hot streaks because like all great players, he has multiple ways to score and contribute. Keep him for sure.
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Post#166 » by DropStep » Sun Apr 6, 2025 5:30 pm

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:37 - If LeBron could grow Coby's hair, his ref-baiting head bobs would register on seismographs.
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Post#167 » by NecessaryEvil » Sun Apr 6, 2025 7:33 pm

Ay, you guys sure you don't wanna pay Coby?? cuz holy s**t lol
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Post#168 » by DuckIII » Sun Apr 6, 2025 7:40 pm

NecessaryEvil wrote:Ay, you guys sure you don't wanna pay Coby?? cuz holy s**t lol


Everyone wants to pay THIS Coby. Next year we get to find out if he’s real.
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Post#169 » by GoBlue72391 » Sun Apr 6, 2025 7:49 pm

NecessaryEvil wrote:Ay, you guys sure you don't wanna pay Coby?? cuz holy s**t lol

At the risk of being labeled a hater, we've seen him go on extended stretches of high level play many times over his career. Up to this point he's always eventually reverted to the mean. Maybe this time is different, but maybe it's not.

If he can play at this level for an entire season then the discussions about maxing him will have merit. If not, you run the risk of potentially crippling the franchise financially for a streaky player. You should try to avoid maxing non-max players whenever possible. We gave Zach a max and almost immediately regretted and spent years trying to move him. Are we trying to get back to that situation?

Coby's a very good player, but a stretch of high level play in the dog days of the season against a lot of tanking teams isn't enough to justify maxing him.

Imagine we give Coby the bag and it turns out it was just another one of his hot stretches. Suddenly we're looking at Coby, Pat, and Giddey (another guy who's been playing great as of late but has question marks on his own) taking up the majority of our cap.

You have to take emotion out of it and look at it logically. Not just "what have you done for me lately" but the whole picture and projecting into the future. I feel like a lot of this discussion is emotionally charged.
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NecessaryEvil wrote:Ay, you guys sure you don't wanna pay Coby?? cuz holy s**t lol

At the risk of being labeled a hater, we've seen him go on extended stretches of high level play many times over his career. Up to this point he's always eventually reverted to the mean. Maybe this time is different, but maybe it's not.

If he can play at this level for an entire season then the discussions about maxing him will have merit. If not, you run the risk of potentially crippling the franchise financially for a streaky player. You should try to avoid maxing non-max players whenever possible. We gave Zach a max and almost immediately regretted and spent years trying to move him. Are we trying to get back to that situation?

Coby's a very good player, but a stretch of high level play in the dog days of the season against a lot of tanking teams isn't enough to justify maxing him.

Imagine we give Coby the bag and it turns out it was just another one of his hot stretches. Suddenly we're looking at Coby, Pat, and Giddey (another guy who's been playing great as of late but has question marks on his own) taking up the majority of our cap.

You have to take emotion out of it and look at it logically. Not just "what have you done for me lately" but the whole picture and projecting into the future. I feel like a lot of this discussion is emotionally charged.


I dont even know if he plays like this you want to max him. We have seen Zach play at this level and it got us fighting for the play in. Maybe Coby's style is more conducive to a 40+ win team. IDK. I know someone with his current stats used get maxed no matter what, but does the 2nd apron change that? A lot of maybes and its in both the team and Coby interest to play his contract out. So at lest nothing has to happen this summer.
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This is different from his other streaks in the past. I understand anyone bringing up his streaky play from years prior, but he is getting his points differently, more efficiently, and he simply stated, LOOKS different.

Regardless of what level of player he actually is…Bulls have to keep him barring an unforeseen scenario unfolding next season. Bulls never sign superstars or high end all stars, we don’t have great draft capital stashed currently either. He’s a game changer at the very least and we have struggled to find those type of players. Not to mention he’s been extremely loyal and professional.
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This is different from his other streaks in the past. I understand anyone bringing up his streaky play from years prior, but he is getting his points differently, more efficiently, and he simply stated, LOOKS different.

Regardless of what level of player he actually is…Bulls have to keep him barring an unforeseen scenario unfolding with him next season. Bulls never sign superstars or high end all stars, we don’t have great draft capital stashed currently either. He’s a game changer at the very least and we have struggled to find those type of players. Not to mention he’s been extremely loyal and professional.


I am seeing this a lot and i am struggling to see what is different about this? Its like you want it to be true so badly you convince yourself this is new. Sure he was at like 32% from 3 for the beginning of the run & that was different from the last hot streaks, but in his last 13 games he is 40% from 3. He was always trying to get to the basket. Its not like he was a jump shooter. He hasn't been trying to be a PG for awhile now. Sure when you are scoring 10 more ppg then normal things will look better. But he's still the same player.
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This is different from his other streaks in the past. I understand anyone bringing up his streaky play from years prior, but he is getting his points differently, more efficiently, and he simply stated, LOOKS different.

Regardless of what level of player he actually is…Bulls have to keep him barring an unforeseen scenario unfolding with him next season. Bulls never sign superstars or high end all stars, we don’t have great draft capital stashed currently either. He’s a game changer at the very least and we have struggled to find those type of players. Not to mention he’s been extremely loyal and professional.


I am seeing this a lot and i am struggling to see what is different about this? Its like you want it to be true so badly you convince yourself this is new. Sure he was at like 32% from 3 for the beginning of the run & that was different from the last hot streaks, but in his last 13 games he is 40% from 3. He was always trying to get to the basket. Its not like he was a jump shooter. He hasn't been trying to be a PG for awhile now. Sure when you are scoring 10 more ppg then normal things will look better. But he's still the same player.


It’s a combination of the free throws and his extreme efficiency that makes it different stylistically. Plus, this time he has Giddey instead of DDR or Zach or both as a running mate, and Giddey’s style matches Coby’s.

But again none of it matters because we get a whole additional season to see if he continues this way.
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Post#175 » by Jcool0 » Sun Apr 6, 2025 10:01 pm

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This is different from his other streaks in the past. I understand anyone bringing up his streaky play from years prior, but he is getting his points differently, more efficiently, and he simply stated, LOOKS different.

Regardless of what level of player he actually is…Bulls have to keep him barring an unforeseen scenario unfolding with him next season. Bulls never sign superstars or high end all stars, we don’t have great draft capital stashed currently either. He’s a game changer at the very least and we have struggled to find those type of players. Not to mention he’s been extremely loyal and professional.


I am seeing this a lot and i am struggling to see what is different about this? Its like you want it to be true so badly you convince yourself this is new. Sure he was at like 32% from 3 for the beginning of the run & that was different from the last hot streaks, but in his last 13 games he is 40% from 3. He was always trying to get to the basket. Its not like he was a jump shooter. He hasn't been trying to be a PG for awhile now. Sure when you are scoring 10 more ppg then normal things will look better. But he's still the same player.


It’s a combination of the free throws and his extreme efficiency that makes it different stylistically. Plus, this time he has Giddey instead of DDR or Zach or both as a running mate, and Giddey’s style matches Coby’s.

But again none of it matters because we get a whole additional season to see if he continues this way.


During his stretch last year he was getting to the line about 4.5x a game. Right now he is at 5.6x. A jump but not a massive one.
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Post#176 » by WindyCityBorn » Sun Apr 6, 2025 10:03 pm

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I am seeing this a lot and i am struggling to see what is different about this? Its like you want it to be true so badly you convince yourself this is new. Sure he was at like 32% from 3 for the beginning of the run & that was different from the last hot streaks, but in his last 13 games he is 40% from 3. He was always trying to get to the basket. Its not like he was a jump shooter. He hasn't been trying to be a PG for awhile now. Sure when you are scoring 10 more ppg then normal things will look better. But he's still the same player.


It’s a combination of the free throws and his extreme efficiency that makes it different stylistically. Plus, this time he has Giddey instead of DDR or Zach or both as a running mate, and Giddey’s style matches Coby’s.

But again none of it matters because we get a whole additional season to see if he continues this way.


During his stretch last year he was getting to the line about 4.5x a game. Right now he is at 5.6x. A jump but not a massive one.


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Post#177 » by Dengness9 » Sun Apr 6, 2025 10:05 pm

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This is different from his other streaks in the past. I understand anyone bringing up his streaky play from years prior, but he is getting his points differently, more efficiently, and he simply stated, LOOKS different.

Regardless of what level of player he actually is…Bulls have to keep him barring an unforeseen scenario unfolding with him next season. Bulls never sign superstars or high end all stars, we don’t have great draft capital stashed currently either. He’s a game changer at the very least and we have struggled to find those type of players. Not to mention he’s been extremely loyal and professional.


I am seeing this a lot and i am struggling to see what is different about this? Its like you want it to be true so badly you convince yourself this is new. Sure he was at like 32% from 3 for the beginning of the run & that was different from the last hot streaks, but in his last 13 games he is 40% from 3. He was always trying to get to the basket. Its not like he was a jump shooter. He hasn't been trying to be a PG for awhile now. Sure when you are scoring 10 more ppg then normal things will look better. But he's still the same player.


Seems like you’re a little more glass half empty than me on this one. Even with Giddey playing well, Coby is the unquestioned leader of this team now. That had never been the case with DDR and Zach before. He can truly be a SG combo guard comfortably next to Giddey. If we disagree that his game looks even more mature than the second half of last year, fine. Drawing fouls and playing fast but with more control than ever? You disagree?

I’m not saying Coby is a 25ppg scorer over 82 games. I’m with you there that we can’t fool ourselves that the current play is who he is. But we also can’t fool ourselves into thinking this 2nd half stretch has the same feel as last year. Again, it’s HIS team right now, and he’s responding beyond flying colors. The make up of the Bulls roster is much improved for him to continue his all star ish level of play.

I have no problem disagreeing on this but I don’t think you should be struggling to see why some think this is his true coming out party moving forward. He looks like a total animal more than ever, I really believe that.
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Post#178 » by wolffy » Sun Apr 6, 2025 11:49 pm

Idk how much different their stats are but Coby seems to be a vastly superior scorer to Zach. Coby doesn't require hitting trash shots and just being on a heater. Sometimes you look up and your like damn Coby has 25 already? It feels sustainable in the regular season to me. Idk if he can do it against playoff comp or not but vs avg teams, he can.
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Post#179 » by cocktailswith_2short » Sun Apr 6, 2025 11:55 pm

Salaries aside would anyone on this board trade Zach for coby straight up ? Put that comparison to bed .
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Post#180 » by Chi town » Mon Apr 7, 2025 12:17 am

Jcool0 wrote:
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I am seeing this a lot and i am struggling to see what is different about this? Its like you want it to be true so badly you convince yourself this is new. Sure he was at like 32% from 3 for the beginning of the run & that was different from the last hot streaks, but in his last 13 games he is 40% from 3. He was always trying to get to the basket. Its not like he was a jump shooter. He hasn't been trying to be a PG for awhile now. Sure when you are scoring 10 more ppg then normal things will look better. But he's still the same player.


It’s a combination of the free throws and his extreme efficiency that makes it different stylistically. Plus, this time he has Giddey instead of DDR or Zach or both as a running mate, and Giddey’s style matches Coby’s.

But again none of it matters because we get a whole additional season to see if he continues this way.


During his stretch last year he was getting to the line about 4.5x a game. Right now he is at 5.6x. A jump but not a massive one.


I think Coby can continue at 25 4 4 with elite efficiency. Scoring has gone up a bunch across the league.

I want to know if he has another gear OR he can become an average defender. If he can do either he becomes a really valuable player.

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