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NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22.

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Young
27
16%
Carter
42
25%
Porter
75
44%
Bridges
15
9%
Knox
6
4%
Sexton
5
3%
 
Total votes: 170

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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#1601 » by Pnjguy » Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:48 pm

Jello Biafra wrote:Forget Bamba or Carter. Center should be the last position the Bulls draft simply because:

1) The Bulls have three players at the position under contract that they can't get rid of earning 35 million next year combined;

2) The position lacks importance in Hoiberg's offense and in the NBA in general. A total of 3 minutes were played in the NBA finals by a player over 7 feet tall, namely Javale McGee;

3) Boogie is available if you really want to blow capital on the NBA positional equivalent of a running back.

As for Ayton, Phoenix is foolish if they pass on Doncic with the first pick. In the past 20 drafts, 7 centers have been taken number 1, namely:

2015 - KAT
2007 - Oden
2006 - Bargnani
2005 - Bogut
2002 - Yao
2001 - Kwame
1998 - Olowokandi

Those number one's have accounted for zero rings for the teams that drafted them. Don't get me wrong, Ayton is a good player and could be great, but his weaknesses, defense and tenacity, are typically the strengths of the modern center.

If the Bulls can't swing a trade for Doncic, then I hope they land either MPJ, JJJ, Mikal or Miles.


As long as your center is a transcendent defender, can shoot, and can hit free throws, you bet your ass that guy would be playing heavy minutes in the finals. Bamba and JJJ fit that bill.
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#1602 » by jStuNNa » Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:49 pm

The twin tower approach freaks me out...
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#1603 » by Pnjguy » Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:51 pm

jStuNNa wrote:The twin tower approach freaks me out...


Twin towers that can shoot 3's and defend? We're not talking about Curry and Chandler here.
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Post#1604 » by Proven_Winner » Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:52 pm

Only thing with going big at 7 is Bulls better damn well have a plan for SF because we’re in desperate need of one.
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Post#1605 » by Proven_Winner » Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:53 pm

Pnjguy wrote:
jStuNNa wrote:The twin tower approach freaks me out...


Twin towers that can shoot 3's and defend? We're not talking about Curry and Chandler here.

Still yet to be seen if bamba can really shoot it when it counts.
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Post#1606 » by Dresden » Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:54 pm

A lot of "ifs" with Bamba though- IF he can shoot better than 28% from 3 in the nba. IF he can become a great defender. Right now he's a shot blocker, not a great defender. And I don't know if he'll be able to become a great defender if he can't add a significant amount of muscle. Same with rebounding- he'll get some just due to his height, but he'll also get pushed out of position a lot by smaller, stronger players.

And what happens when teams go small against him? Who will he be able to cover?
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Post#1607 » by jStuNNa » Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:56 pm

Pnjguy wrote:
jStuNNa wrote:The twin tower approach freaks me out...


Twin towers that can shoot 3's and defend? We're not talking about Curry and Chandler here.


We don't know that Bamba can be a good outside shooter. He's shown potential for that, but has not proven it at any level yet.
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Post#1608 » by randybrown » Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:56 pm

If its Bamba, bulls should ship out Portis
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Post#1609 » by bennjuiced34 » Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:56 pm

bulliedog8 wrote:http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/ct-spt-bulls-nba-draft-mo-bamba-20180620-story.html
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Post#1610 » by Pnjguy » Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:58 pm

jStuNNa wrote:
Pnjguy wrote:
jStuNNa wrote:The twin tower approach freaks me out...


Twin towers that can shoot 3's and defend? We're not talking about Curry and Chandler here.


We don't know that Bamba can be a good outside shooter. He's shown potential for that, but has not proven it at any level yet.


None of these players in this draft have proven anything. My point is that these players are not Curry and Chandler.
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Post#1611 » by JimmyJammer » Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:59 pm

Dresden wrote:
Jello Biafra wrote:Forget Bamba or Carter. Center should be the last position the Bulls draft simply because:

1) The Bulls have three players at the position under contract that they can't get rid of earning 35 million next year combined;

2) The position lacks importance in Hoiberg's offense and in the NBA in general. A total of 3 minutes were played in the NBA finals by a player over 7 feet tall, namely Javale McGee;

3) Boogie is available if you really want to blow capital on the NBA positional equivalent of a running back.

As for Ayton, Phoenix is foolish if they pass on Doncic with the first pick. In the past 20 drafts, 7 centers have been taken number 1, namely:

2015 - KAT
2007 - Oden
2006 - Bargnani
2005 - Bogut
2002 - Yao
2001 - Kwame
1998 - Olowokandi

Those number one's have accounted for zero rings for the teams that drafted them. Don't get me wrong, Ayton is a good player and could be great, but his weaknesses, defense and tenacity, are typically the strengths of the modern center.

If the Bulls can't swing a trade for Doncic, then I hope they land either MPJ, JJJ, Mikal or Miles.


Good post, although you wonder what the influx of so many talented big men in this year's draft may do to change the role of the big man in the nba.

It would not shock me if PHO did not take Ayton #1,and instead went Bagley or Doncic.

McGee did play more than 3 minutes in the finals though. Maybe you are talking about the final game?


There is a new breed of big men coming up who are going to blow the game open. They can guard and score on the perimeter and down low. While I am rooting hard for the Bulls to draft Porter, I can definitely get behind Bamba. Both Bamba and Lauri can guard on the perimeter, the pick and roll, and inside.
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Post#1612 » by imagge » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:00 pm



Like holv said nothing is set in stone.....how can you not like what you see in this video against high level talent?
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Post#1613 » by InsideInfo » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:00 pm

Red8911 wrote:
holv03 wrote:It's looking like John Paxson might hit another buzzer beater today to seal a victory. Things are starting to get interesting.

I think it would be dumb to give up a player like Portis just to move up a couple of spots. I guess let’s see what exactly they do first but in this draft #7 could end up being a better player than #1 so I don’t think it’s worth giving up much.


Paxson thought just like you..back in 2003 when he didn't he didn't think it was worth moving Donyell Marshall to get the number 4 pick. I am hoping 15 years of watching DWade make all star games and win rings has changed his thinking.
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Post#1614 » by Red Larrivee » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:00 pm

Jello Biafra wrote:2) The position lacks importance in Hoiberg's offense and in the NBA in general. A total of 3 minutes were played in the NBA finals by a player over 7 feet tall, namely Javale McGee;.


The position lacks importance to the Warriors because they have 3 elite perimeter players and a unique PF who can play C effectively. It doesn't lack importance to Cleveland, who's been awful defensively without a true defensive presence. It's just one of the many flaws that's been negated by having LeBron James in a weak Eastern Conference.

I don't think either of those teams wouldn't want a seven footer who fits the current direction of centers. It's just that neither of those teams have been in the position to get one. We shouldn't confuse that with 7 footers being a universal net negative, because they aren't.

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Post#1615 » by jump » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:01 pm

Revised trade prediction:

#7, Holiday ($4.5M), Felicio ($8.5) for #4 and Parsons ($50M).

Memphis sheds net of $12M this year and $25 next year, and picks up a competent SF to replace Parsons, and back up C in Felicio. Plus they probably have us pick Bridges for them, who can take the floor immediately.

Bulls take on $12M salary this year and $25 next, but Asik ($11M) will be off the books next year, so there's more room in the piggy bank. Bulls get Bamba. Mission accomplished!
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Post#1616 » by Big Pippen » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:01 pm

I really like Bamba as a prospect, and think he can be a special player in the NBA. But if you guys think you are getting anything close to an average offensive player for the first two and a half years, you are buying in to the hype too much. Hopefully, he will enter the league hungry and sticking to his role (defense, rebounding, screening, rim running, etc). But just because draft videos list his potential at developing a three point shot doesn't mean he actually can hit them at plus percentage or quantity. Again, I love the kid. But you are getting Theo Ratliff for the first year or two and then... maybe.. if he works super hard.. you get a little Brad Miller offensive game out of him. But even that would take a ton of work. Theo Ratliff defense with Brad Miller offense is an all star. But some of you are acting like Bamba is going to be Porzingus on offense from summer league on. And thats just not where this kid is at right now.
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Post#1617 » by imagge » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:03 pm

imagge wrote:

Like holv said nothing is set in stone.....how can you not like what you see in this video against high level talent?



Billy Preston is playing on the other team even haters have to be some what impressed
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#1618 » by thewraith » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:03 pm

Pnjguy wrote:
jStuNNa wrote:The twin tower approach freaks me out...


Twin towers that can shoot 3's and defend? We're not talking about Curry and Chandler here.
Outside of Jackson I don't see the big that can shoot right away. Bamba shot the ball doesn't make him a shooter to me. Unless you're only talking JJJ I disagree that these other bigs can really shoot currently. I've saw the gym workouts but I've played with top level guys from pros and college and them making open shots are nothing to me. Heck if you ever goto a game early watch how easy it is for most of,those players to drain shot after shot during warmups. In the games its a different story.
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Post#1619 » by samwana » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:04 pm

bennjuiced34 wrote:
bulliedog8 wrote:http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/ct-spt-bulls-nba-draft-mo-bamba-20180620-story.html
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Post#1620 » by InsideInfo » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:05 pm

samwana wrote:
bennjuiced34 wrote:
bulliedog8 wrote:http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/ct-spt-bulls-nba-draft-mo-bamba-20180620-story.html
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Says Bamba is the target.

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