Way too early NBA draft thread 2021

[othawhitemeat]

I will laugh if anyone drafts him. Summer camp invite? Sure, whatever. But he’ll be nothing but a liability in a real NBA game.

Duck, a lot of times you can be right but you also post at times opinions as facts. It can be extremely arrogant - especially since you've been wrong many times too.

Isn’t assumed that any post predicting the future of a player is an opinion? None of us are simply stating facts unless we are citing data and then attributing no observation to it.

Plus, Garza sucks as an NBA prospect. In my humble and fallible opinion.

He definitely sucks defensively. I just think a big kan that can board, shoot the 3, rebound, and hustles will get minutes in the league and can't stand the Hawkeyes. With Vuc, don't see a need to draft him but do see where he can be useful for some team

[drosestruts]

On Garza - who has been the least successful Naismith Play of the Year award winner? I get that winning that award doesn't mean you'll be a player of the year in the NBA, but all seem to have decent careers, and what more could you really want from a 2nd round pick?

I'd say Frank Mason or Jimmer are probably the two with the worst NBA careers is the past 20 years.

Again - not saying these award winners translate as stars from NCAA to college, but they seem to all translate to decent players.

[DuckIII]

On Garza - who has been the least successful Naismith Play of the Year award winner? I get that winning that award doesn't mean you'll be a player of the year in the NBA, but all seem to have decent careers, and what more could you really want from a 2nd round pick?

The ability to move. I don’t think some of you fully appreciate just how immobile he is.

Because of his productivity and unusual size Iowa catered to his snail’s pace. They waited to set up their offense and run it through him because he was a mismatch problem against most collegiate centers.

None of that will happen for him offensively in the NBA and he would be, bar none, the worst defending big on any roster in the NBA.

He won’t be a bust because no one will value him highly enough for him to be considered that. But someone will draft him and he’ll be useless and then playing oversees the rest of his career.

[bad knees]

I am seeing pundits saying that the Bulls might move up in the draft and that several contending teams are interested in trading for Sato. Perhaps we could combine those two ideas and trade Sato + 38 for a pick in the 20's. That seems like a good idea generally speaking. Do you agree and if so who would be a good trade partner and who would be a good draft target?

[Darius Miles Davis]

I am seeing pundits saying that the Bulls might move up in the draft and that several contending teams are interested in trading for Sato. Perhaps we could combine those two ideas and trade Sato + 38 for a pick in the 20's. That seems like a good idea generally speaking. Do you agree and if so who would be a good trade partner and who would be a good draft target?

Do you have any sources to link to regarding the Bulls moving up? I'd like to read up on this.

[bad knees]

I am seeing pundits saying that the Bulls might move up in the draft and that several contending teams are interested in trading for Sato. Perhaps we could combine those two ideas and trade Sato + 38 for a pick in the 20's. That seems like a good idea generally speaking. Do you agree and if so who would be a good trade partner and who would be a good draft target?

Do you have any sources to link to regarding the Bulls moving up? I'd like to read up on this.

This article is a little old and certainly does not say that the Bulls are actively looking to move up, but it does note that they have been working out several players who are projected to go much earlier than 38.

https://www.bleachernation.com/bulls/2021/06/30/the-bulls-are-reportedly-prepared-to-trade-into-the-first-round-on-draft-night/

[drosestruts]

On Garza - who has been the least successful Naismith Play of the Year award winner? I get that winning that award doesn't mean you'll be a player of the year in the NBA, but all seem to have decent careers, and what more could you really want from a 2nd round pick?

The ability to move. I don’t think some of you fully appreciate just how immobile he is.

Because of his productivity and unusual size Iowa catered to his snail’s pace. They waited to set up their offense and run it through him because he was a mismatch problem against most collegiate centers.

None of that will happen for him offensively in the NBA and he would be, bar none, the worst defending big on any roster in the NBA.

He won’t be a bust because no one will value him highly enough for him to be considered that. But someone will draft him and he’ll be useless and then playing oversees the rest of his career.

You may be right. I'm usually very conservative with first round picks, second round picks I could care less.

And I'm not saying Garza is some homerun swing that results in a star, I'm saying it's a home run swing that results in a single. (very mixed analogy).

I don't have many expectations for 2nd round picks. I know this guy has great post-scoring moves and shot 44% from 3. The other 2nd round options have what? Very few have skills in their tool chest comparable to Garza.

I suppose I just don't care if he busts, because my expectations are pretty low (as they are for any 2nd round pick).

[MrFortune3]

While I am not a huge fan of potentially drafting Garza, with his weight loss and improved physique, it could help him be a much better NBA player than initially thought.
He was a lumbering big with baby fat on him in college. If he can maintain his weight loss and improve his conditioning, he could be a solid rotation player.

[drosestruts]

Other guys I like at our pick outside of Garza include:

Joe Weiskamp
Kessler Edwards
JT Thor

[Bulls Fan 23]

I want to get a late first round pick, trade Sato, cash, whatever. And then draft Jason Preston from Ohio. I think he will rise up on draft boards.

Then get as many second round picks as possible. First one draft and stash Vrenz Bleijenbergh, then draft Nah'Shon Hyland and Joe Wieskamp.

[PlayerUp]

Bulls need a major retool of this roster and it starts clearing out useless low ceiling players with their bench and filling them with at least cheap 2nd Rd Picks who have potential with our 13th, 14th and 15th roster spots. At the very least, would be nice if AK would acquire a 2nd 2nd Rd Pick here for $ something Gar/Pax refused to do. AK has hit gems before in the 2nd Rd so hopefully he can do it again.

[JohnnyTapwater]

I keep seeing Siakam when I see JT Thor.

[Grodoboldo]

On Garza - who has been the least successful Naismith Play of the Year award winner?

Going back 20 years, probably Frank Mason III (2017) and Jimmer (2011).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naismith_College_Player_of_the_Year

[Hangtime84]

I keep seeing Siakam when I see JT Thor.

I really like JT Thor as well doubt he will be there given how many picks OKC has.

[StunnerKO]

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He'd be nice add if we trade Thad and let Lauri walk. Playing behind Theis would be a nice learning experience.

I doubt he'll be available where we are in the 2nd, but maybe Thad plus our 2nd plus whatever we can get back for Sato might be enough.

I really want us to nab Livers, but I really don't want 3 rookies (incl Marko) plus Coby and Pat on our roster...that's too many guys to develop and compete at the same time.

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[Grodoboldo]

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He'd be nice add if we trade Thad and let Lauri walk. Playing behind Theis would be a nice learning experience.

I doubt he'll be available where we are in the 2nd, but maybe Thad plus our 2nd plus whatever we can get back for Sato might be enough.

I really want us to nab Livers, but I really don't want 3 rookies (incl Marko) plus Coby and Pat on our roster...that's too many guys to develop and compete at the same time.

Yeah, Thor would be a great pick at 38, but I also think he won't be available.

[Almost Retired]

My top target for the Bulls is JT Thor - PF/SF
Height: 6'9.25"
Wingspan: 7'3"

Player Comparison: Jerami Grant/Bigger Cam Reddish

Great potential. But he'll likely be gone between #22 and the end of the 1st Round.

[gobullschi]

My top target for the Bulls is JT Thor - PF/SF
Height: 6'9.25"
Wingspan: 7'3"

Player Comparison: Jerami Grant/Bigger Cam Reddish

Great potential. But he'll likely be gone between #22 and the end of the 1st Round.

I agree. He’s just scratching the surface of his potential and his positional versatility is something we know AK values greatly. He hasn’t gotten as much attention as others, so maybe he slips or the Bulls use Sato to move up from #38 to get him.