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NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22.

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Young
27
16%
Carter
42
25%
Porter
75
44%
Bridges
15
9%
Knox
6
4%
Sexton
5
3%
 
Total votes: 170

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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#1621 » by bennjuiced34 » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:06 pm

samwana wrote:
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bulliedog8 wrote:http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/ct-spt-bulls-nba-draft-mo-bamba-20180620-story.html
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What does the article say, I can't read it in Europe

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Bulls targeting Bamba. Would need to likely trade up.

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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#1622 » by JimmyJammer » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:07 pm

Dresden wrote:A lot of "ifs" with Bamba though- IF he can shoot better than 28% from 3 in the nba. IF he can become a great defender. Right now he's a shot blocker, not a great defender. And I don't know if he'll be able to become a great defender if he can't add a significant amount of muscle. Same with rebounding- he'll get some just due to his height, but he'll also get pushed out of position a lot by smaller, stronger players.

And what happens when teams go small against him? Who will he be able to cover?


Covering smaller guys will not be an issue because he has the quickness and foot speed to stick with them on the perimeter, but that will certainly nullify his rebounding and shot blocking abilities. It is hard for big men these days to be productive in the NBA, I would agree.
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#1623 » by Hangtime84 » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:08 pm

I think chicago really wants Porter and Bamba
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aguifs wrote:Do we have a friggin plan?


If the Bulls do, you would be complaining to much to ever hear it.


NBA fan logic we need to trade one of two best players because (Player X) one needs to shine more.
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#1624 » by realEAST » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:11 pm

Proven_Winner wrote:Only thing with going big at 7 is Bulls better damn well have a plan for SF because we’re in desperate need of one.


With a bit of luck we could end up with a surprisingly good wing at #22 imo, and then take it from there. I mean, it is a big question mark and potential setback, but if we line up this team next season:

Dunn
LaVine
#22 (Okogie, Hutchison, Huerter)
Markkanen
#4-7 (Bamba/JJJ)

with those picks being (#4-7) Bamba or JJJ, and one of Okogie, Hutchison, Huerter at #22

And we clear a bench just a little bit (Holiday, Portis (trade up), Lopez/Felicio) which would leave us with bench like:

Grant/Payne
Valentine
Nwaba/Zipser
Vonleh
Lopez/Felicio

If we'd have enough luck that none of Dunn, LaVine, Markkanen, #22, #4-7 doesn't get injured so that we could see and evaluate them together, I think there are two options - we are either better than most expect, maybe even sneaking into playoffs, which would mean at least two guys have some serious potential and we could be factor in FA sooner rather than later;
Or team doesn't gel together and some guys don't improve, we more or less suck, and have a shot at really good wing in next years Draft.

More than everything else, I just hope for (major) injury free season.
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Post#1625 » by Fantastik_Goat » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:12 pm

Jello Biafra wrote:Forget Bamba or Carter. Center should be the last position the Bulls draft simply because:

1) The Bulls have three players at the position under contract that they can't get rid of earning 35 million next year combined;

2) The position lacks importance in Hoiberg's offense and in the NBA in general. A total of 3 minutes were played in the NBA finals by a player over 7 feet tall, namely Javale McGee;

3) Boogie is available if you really want to blow capital on the NBA positional equivalent of a running back.

As for Ayton, Phoenix is foolish if they pass on Doncic with the first pick. In the past 20 drafts, 7 centers have been taken number 1, namely:

2015 - KAT
2007 - Oden
2006 - Bargnani
2005 - Bogut
2002 - Yao
2001 - Kwame
1998 - Olowokandi

Those number one's have accounted for zero rings for the teams that drafted them. Don't get me wrong, Ayton is a good player and could be great, but his weaknesses, defense and tenacity, are typically the strengths of the modern center.

If the Bulls can't swing a trade for Doncic, then I hope they land either MPJ, JJJ, Mikal or Miles.


In fairness only one no 1 pick in the last 20 Year’s has won with the team that drafted them.
Kyrie Irving and he only won because Lebron came back. Technically Lebron won with the same team that drafted but he did it as a free agent signing not a draft pick.
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#1626 » by thewraith » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:12 pm

JimmyJammer wrote:
Dresden wrote:A lot of "ifs" with Bamba though- IF he can shoot better than 28% from 3 in the nba. IF he can become a great defender. Right now he's a shot blocker, not a great defender. And I don't know if he'll be able to become a great defender if he can't add a significant amount of muscle. Same with rebounding- he'll get some just due to his height, but he'll also get pushed out of position a lot by smaller, stronger players.

And what happens when teams go small against him? Who will he be able to cover?


Covering smaller guys will not be an issue because he has the quickness and foot speed to stick with them on the perimeter, but that will certainly nullify his rebounding and shot blocking abilities. It is hard for big men these days to be productive in the NBA, I would agree.
Im not sure if he has any more quickness and foot speed than Gobert who had trouble when it counted to stick with skilled smaller players. Even if he does have more I don't feel its that much better and feel he will have similar trouble against skilled offensive players on the perimeter. He is just the new guy coming into the league some like so we think he will be different when I think its the same soup warmed up outside of him maybe being able to bring the 3 ball into actual games.
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Post#1627 » by navdeep_singh » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:13 pm

Hangtime84 wrote:I think chicago really wants Porter and Bamba


BOTH ? Or either . Getting 4 from Memphis without giving up 7 means giving up 22, Portis and an unprotected future 1st, gotta believe . Plsus Absorbing Parsons.

Rebuild more or less complete no, as Crumbs would say, “full boats”.
Roll the dice with
Markk
Levine
MPJ
Bamba
Dunn

Yeah why not?

Gotta be better than Curry and Chandler . :)
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Post#1628 » by blicka » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:18 pm

Grizzlies probably are gonna trade down. Bamba & jjj blew them off, they're high on porter only prospect they worked out was wendell carter

They just need a sucka to take on parsons contract and get their guy.
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#1629 » by Betta Bulleavit » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:18 pm

Hangtime84 wrote:I think chicago really wants Porter and Bamba

I get that impression as well. Or perhaps even Bamba and Young....Woooo!
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#1630 » by NecessaryEvil » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:19 pm

Big Pippen wrote:I really like Bamba as a prospect, and think he can be a special player in the NBA. But if you guys think you are getting anything close to an average offensive player for the first two and a half years, you are buying in to the hype too much. Hopefully, he will enter the league hungry and sticking to his role (defense, rebounding, screening, rim running, etc). But just because draft videos list his potential at developing a three point shot doesn't mean he actually can hit them at plus percentage or quantity. Again, I love the kid. But you are getting Theo Ratliff for the first year or two and then... maybe.. if he works super hard.. you get a little Brad Miller offensive game out of him. But even that would take a ton of work. Theo Ratliff defense with Brad Miller offense is an all star. But some of you are acting like Bamba is going to be Porzingus on offense from summer league on. And thats just not where this kid is at right now.


Nobody is acting like that.....AT ALL

We're rebuilding, we have plenty of time to watch the kid develop his offense.
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#1631 » by boozapalooza » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:20 pm

holv03 wrote:It's looking like John Paxson might hit another buzzer beater today to seal a victory. Things are starting to get interesting.


Are you hearing a move might go down TODAY as opposed to waiting until the draft is officially underway? I do like the idea of getting your move done ahead of everyone else the trade market
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#1632 » by Pnjguy » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:21 pm

thewraith wrote:
Pnjguy wrote:
jStuNNa wrote:The twin tower approach freaks me out...


Twin towers that can shoot 3's and defend? We're not talking about Curry and Chandler here.
Outside of Jackson I don't see the big that can shoot right away. Bamba shot the ball doesn't make him a shooter to me. Unless you're only talking JJJ I disagree that these other bigs can really shoot currently. I've saw the gym workouts but I've played with top level guys from pros and college and them making open shots are nothing to me. Heck if you ever goto a game early watch how easy it is for most of,those players to drain shot after shot during warmups. In the games its a different story.


The difference is floor spacing. Regardless at what clip Bamba and JJJ can hit 3's they will space the floor and can dribble to the hoop. Those are things traditional big men couldn't do.
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Post#1633 » by johnnyvann840 » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:21 pm

Kevin Knox on SC right now. He interviews well. Really well. Like him a lot. He's a smart kid. I wasn't nuts about him when I watched his tape but he showed moments. Wouldn't be thrilled, but wouldn't be bummed if he were the pick.
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Post#1634 » by Hangtime84 » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:22 pm

Betta Bulleavit wrote:
Hangtime84 wrote:I think chicago really wants Porter and Bamba

I get that impression as well. Or perhaps even Bamba and Young....Woooo!


Yeah WCJ or Porter

Two top 7 picks I think is the goal.
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aguifs wrote:Do we have a friggin plan?


If the Bulls do, you would be complaining to much to ever hear it.


NBA fan logic we need to trade one of two best players because (Player X) one needs to shine more.
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Post#1635 » by aguifs » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:23 pm

Dwight Howard gone
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#1636 » by AshyLarrysDiaper » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:23 pm

Please let this all be a smokescreen for Doncic. I realize that would involve more sleight of hand than GarPax has ever shown leading up to the draft, but the opportunity here is so big and obvious that it’s hard for me to imagine he’s not at at the top of their list.
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Post#1637 » by samwana » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:24 pm

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bennjuiced34 wrote:Let's **** go KC!

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Says Bamba is the target.
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Post#1638 » by tunit213 » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:24 pm

Sonny_D1 wrote:
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WindyCityBorn wrote:I think this Porter news is a load of BS. His team is tanking him to #7. Bulls playing dirty.


Exactly. This whole red shirt thing next season is a load of crap. Makes no sense at all. MPJ came back right after surgery to try and help his draft stock, so why would he now sit out 16 months. I’m sure his agent and Pax plannned this to help scare other teams.


Fixed.


Yeah okay that’s smart. Come back from surgery when your nonwhere near 100 percent. Sure sounds like he’s trying to help his draft stock.....not!
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Post#1639 » by NecessaryEvil » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:26 pm

jStuNNa wrote:
TheSuzerain wrote:Felicio and #7 for Doncic and Parsons would be fantastic.

It would have the added benefit of Parsons dead money saving GarPax from themselves this offseason.


Unless Doncic is flat out telling the Grizzlies he doesn't want to be there, I don't think there's much chance they pass on the opportunity to draft him.

With Doncic, they could become the next small market dynasty, similar to the Spurs.


How? Marc Gasol is 33 nor is he a HOFer like Tim Duncan.... nor do they have a Pop
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#1640 » by BigUps » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:29 pm

jump wrote:I think it's pretty simple what the Bulls will do.
1. If there's a good trade to be made to get Bamba, they'll do it.
2. If it looks like there's a chance he'll fall to them, they'll risk it and wait.
3. If Bamba doesn't fall, they'll take Carter


Yep. Its obvious at this point. Then they take a wing at 22.

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