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Post#1621 » by ChiCitySPORTS#1 » Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:07 am

HomoSapien wrote:I mean if you get Steven Adams and 21 for Felcio/cap space, then maybe you go ahead and trade WCJ for the 4th pick. Then you're walking into the draft with Adams, 4, 7, and 21. That's a great summer. The Bulls roster could look something like this:

C. Adams/FA
PF. Lauri/Clarke
SF. Porter/Hunter/Hutchinson
SG. LaVine/Valentine/
PG. Garland/Dunn/Arci

That's honestly a pretty interesting young team.


There’s no way OKC gets nothing in return for Adams, that’s just silly.
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Post#1622 » by HomoSapien » Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:08 am

ChiCitySPORTS#1 wrote:
HomoSapien wrote:I mean if you get Steven Adams and 21 for Felcio/cap space, then maybe you go ahead and trade WCJ for the 4th pick. Then you're walking into the draft with Adams, 4, 7, and 21. That's a great summer. The Bulls roster could look something like this:

C. Adams/FA
PF. Lauri/Clarke
SF. Porter/Hunter/Hutchinson
SG. LaVine/Valentine/
PG. Garland/Dunn/Arci

That's honestly a pretty interesting young team.


There’s no way OKC gets nothing in return for Adams, that’s just silly.


I wouldn't have believed it, but that seems to me what the rumor is suggesting.
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Post#1623 » by Rose2Boozer » Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:29 am

If the Bulls misses out on White or Garland, I wouldn't mind GarPax taking on Schroder's deal. The Thunder would have to give up the 21st pick and take a list of our scrubs(Valentine, Harrison, Blakeney, Lemon Jr.).
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Post#1624 » by Ccwatercraft » Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:30 am

HomoSapien wrote:
ChiCitySPORTS#1 wrote:
HomoSapien wrote:I mean if you get Steven Adams and 21 for Felcio/cap space, then maybe you go ahead and trade WCJ for the 4th pick. Then you're walking into the draft with Adams, 4, 7, and 21. That's a great summer. The Bulls roster could look something like this:

C. Adams/FA
PF. Lauri/Clarke
SF. Porter/Hunter/Hutchinson
SG. LaVine/Valentine/
PG. Garland/Dunn/Arci

That's honestly a pretty interesting young team.


There’s no way OKC gets nothing in return for Adams, that’s just silly.


I wouldn't have believed it, but that seems to me what the rumor is suggesting.


I cant see that happening. He has legit value.
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Post#1625 » by HomoSapien » Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:48 am

Ccwatercraft wrote:
HomoSapien wrote:
ChiCitySPORTS#1 wrote:
There’s no way OKC gets nothing in return for Adams, that’s just silly.


I wouldn't have believed it, but that seems to me what the rumor is suggesting.


I cant see that happening. He has legit value.


I tend to agree, but the rumor is that they're willing to attach a first round pick to shed his contract. To me that sounds like a salary dump. Certainly wouldn't surprise me if the rumor was wrong though.
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Post#1626 » by ChiCitySPORTS#1 » Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:56 am

HomoSapien wrote:
Ccwatercraft wrote:
HomoSapien wrote:
I wouldn't have believed it, but that seems to me what the rumor is suggesting.


I cant see that happening. He has legit value.


I tend to agree, but the rumor is that they're willing to attach a first round pick to shed his contract. To me that sounds like a salary dump. Certainly wouldn't surprise me if the rumor was wrong though.


Yeah it’s probably a terrible rumor. That and a first round pick? No way lol
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Post#1627 » by Ccwatercraft » Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:46 am

ChiCitySPORTS#1 wrote:
HomoSapien wrote:
Ccwatercraft wrote:
I cant see that happening. He has legit value.


I tend to agree, but the rumor is that they're willing to attach a first round pick to shed his contract. To me that sounds like a salary dump. Certainly wouldn't surprise me if the rumor was wrong though.


Yeah it’s probably a terrible rumor. That and a first round pick? No way lol


I view it quite simply that the first round would be a sweetener.

they would trade Adams for somebody of similar value and they would throw in a first-round pick.

All these 20 25 30 million contracts are finally coming back to haunt teams.
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Post#1628 » by drosereturn » Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:55 am

ChiCitySPORTS#1 wrote:
HomoSapien wrote:I mean if you get Steven Adams and 21 for Felcio/cap space, then maybe you go ahead and trade WCJ for the 4th pick. Then you're walking into the draft with Adams, 4, 7, and 21. That's a great summer. The Bulls roster could look something like this:

C. Adams/FA
PF. Lauri/Clarke
SF. Porter/Hunter/Hutchinson
SG. LaVine/Valentine/
PG. Garland/Dunn/Arci

That's honestly a pretty interesting young team.


There’s no way OKC gets nothing in return for Adams, that’s just silly.


OKC doesnt need return when all they want is shed salary. They can keep their pick but I would trade Felicio plus bunch of expirings for Adams. Trade Carter for number 4 since Carter will never be as good as prime Adams.
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Post#1629 » by drosereturn » Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:59 am

Would then trade 4 and lightly protected for RJ barrett. As much as I dislike Lavine, he has a chance to be a star if he moves to pg.

Lavine/RJ /Porter/Lauri/Adams is the lineup I want to see.

Make RJ like Scottie Pippen by giving him primary ball handling responsibilities.
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Post#1630 » by dpucane » Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:06 pm

Read on Twitter
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Wonder if they might panic and offer Williams or 22 with this. Would jump at either.

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Post#1631 » by sco » Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:14 pm

dpucane wrote:
Read on Twitter
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Wonder if they might panic and offer Williams or 22 with this. Would jump at either.

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A future conditional 2nd rounder for Baynes wouldn't bother me. I like him as a back-up. Even better 22 & Baynes for 38 works fine too.
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Post#1632 » by panthermark » Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:33 pm

sco wrote:
dpucane wrote:
Read on Twitter
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Wonder if they might panic and offer Williams or 22 with this. Would jump at either.

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A future conditional 2nd rounder for Baynes wouldn't bother me. I like him as a back-up. Even better 22 & Baynes for 38 works fine too.

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Post#1633 » by sco » Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:33 pm

Let me start by saying I don't want to trade WCJ. BUT if there was actually a plan behind it, I could get behind a deal like:

WCJ + Felicio for Adams & 21.
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Post#1634 » by Axolotl » Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:46 pm

sco wrote:Let me start by saying I don't want to trade WCJ. BUT if there was actually a plan behind it, I could get behind a deal like:

WCJ + Felicio for Adams & 21.


I hope Pax is on the phone asking what OKC would want for Adams. I'd rather not send out WCJ, but that package would be worth considering.
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Post#1635 » by sh0ck » Thu Jun 20, 2019 2:04 pm

sco wrote:Let me start by saying I don't want to trade WCJ. BUT if there was actually a plan behind it, I could get behind a deal like:

WCJ + Felicio for Adams & 21.


What? That's a terrible deal

Adam's contract is currently a net negative and the 21st pick this year is equivalent to other year's 2nd round picks.

This deal would be insane in terms of both the market for WCJ and Adams (who might be viewed as a salary dump at this point).
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Post#1636 » by PrimzyBulls81 » Thu Jun 20, 2019 2:11 pm

Man,I would love Adams here.. Lets do it GarPax :)
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Post#1637 » by gobullschi » Thu Jun 20, 2019 2:44 pm

Adams is a solid player and I would definitely accept a deal if it was just a salary dump. He is overpaid and brings little to the table as far as scoring the basketball, but he would create a solid big man rotation for the time being. He sets the nastiest screens in the NBA.

Unless a center has elite scoring ability, I would avoid paying him 10+ million. It works for now because I don't see the Bulls using the cap space for anyone that can impact the game like he can. It might even keep the cost down to retain WCJ.

Anyways... I would be shocked if OKC dumped him. Schröder + 21 for Dunn makes more sense.
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Post#1638 » by Jiipee84 » Thu Jun 20, 2019 3:03 pm

sco wrote:Let me start by saying I don't want to trade WCJ. BUT if there was actually a plan behind it, I could get behind a deal like:

WCJ + Felicio for Adams & 21.


What then if Oklahoma's GM says to GarPax '' you get Schroder, Adams and 21st pick but the price is LaVine and Carter''.
Would you still do that trade even it means losing 2 core pieces of Bulls rebuild.

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Edit Also i don't see Oklahoma taking Felicio's overpaid contract even salary dump.
Felicio is HOT nuclear garbage and he should have been out of the league good while ago.
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Post#1639 » by sco » Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:12 pm

Jiipee84 wrote:
sco wrote:Let me start by saying I don't want to trade WCJ. BUT if there was actually a plan behind it, I could get behind a deal like:

WCJ + Felicio for Adams & 21.


What then if Oklahoma's GM says to GarPax '' you get Schroder, Adams and 21st pick but the price is LaVine and Carter''.
Would you still do that trade even it means losing 2 core pieces of Bulls rebuild.

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Edit Also i don't see Oklahoma taking Felicio's overpaid contract even salary dump.
Felicio is HOT nuclear garbage and he should have been out of the league good while ago.

Ok, you're trade is much worse. I don't want to give up Lavine. I would give up WCJ for Adams though. He's one of the best C's in the league on a 2 year deal, and his age fits with our core.
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Post#1640 » by ChettheJet » Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:19 pm

Several trades here one awful one for the Bulls

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2841735-realistic-trades-we-could-see-on-nba-draft-night#slide10

No way an extra late lottery pick #12 plus a small shooting guard and a guy that came up short of expectations is worth an on the edge of an all star 2 guard. It cuts cap space for players that aren't coming and pushes the rebuild back a couple of years at least.

of the other players suggested in other trades.

I think WASH could do better than giving up a 1st to get rid of Mahinmi. Send him to the Bulls for Felicio and they at least spread the same amount of money out over 2 years, keep their 1st and could always stretch Felicio if it suits them.

I doubt the PELS think #8 and #10 are worth #4 since any number of stories say they want current useful players to try to win sooner than later when 5 rookies come around. So let ATL send #10 and #17 to the Bulls for #7. If ATL is still interested in #4 let them send #7 and a player like Bazemore to the PELS.

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