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Re: Melo 16- If it's meant to be, it's meant to be 

Post#1641 » by DaeDae » Sat Jul 5, 2014 7:12 pm

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CoolKids wrote:I agree he shouldnt have said that. and I do think he would take a paycut, but a 60 million dollar paycut is ludicrous.


No matter how many times you repeat that the bulls only offered him 70 million dollars, it doesn't make it true.

I mean seriously, if that's all they offered him, then what is he waiting on???


Then idk why everyone is reporting thats what they offered. Keep in mind this isnt a 2 horse race here. There are other teams that are trying to get him.


Nobody credible is reporting that.
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Post#1642 » by MoneyMitch » Sat Jul 5, 2014 7:13 pm

Now I kno Melo is coming

Knicks fans started hating him before the trade happened
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Post#1643 » by MrFortune3 » Sat Jul 5, 2014 7:13 pm

I do not believe that any Bulls fan would have a problem with Melo returning to the Knicks because of the money.
The issue is the frustration with so many athletes proclaiming it is about winning when making a decision and then in the end taking the money over the actual best chance to win.

If Melo goes back to NY I will not blame him nor hate him.
It would be annoying to see yet another whiff on a star player in FA for the Bulls but it will not stop us from being a top notch team.
I think I speak with most Bulls fan in saying that it will be fun to beat him if he returns to NYK though.
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Post#1644 » by RememberLu » Sat Jul 5, 2014 7:14 pm

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RememberLu wrote:Some dumb Knicks fans really think the Bulls and Knicks are on the same level just because neither one has won a ring recently? lol

you really don't watch basketball then if thats what someone thinks


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Re: Melo 16- If it's meant to be, it's meant to be 

Post#1645 » by johnnyvann840 » Sat Jul 5, 2014 7:14 pm

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The team with the most rebounds usually wins
The team with the most assist usually wins
The team with the most stops usually wins
But the team with most points ALWAYS wins

The game will forever be about buckets



forgot one...


the team that gives up the most points ALWAYS loses.


Well you guys won't have that problem when you get Melo


I would hope not.
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Post#1646 » by TheDeadPrez » Sat Jul 5, 2014 7:14 pm

AAU Teammate wrote:Bulls are in better shape, but New York is not Philly. In the East, NY can be competitive and with a few smart moves be fine. I think we overstate here how horrific the circumstances are in NY.

Being the city that they are, their FA dollars (when eventually they get back in that game) mean a ton to players.


I see the Sixers with better upside than Knicks in the future tbh.
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Post#1647 » by dafunky1 » Sat Jul 5, 2014 7:14 pm

Remeber when Jo mentioned that Thibbs aint for everyone??? Maybe Anthony isnt cut out to deal with the Thibbs experience.
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Post#1648 » by DaeDae » Sat Jul 5, 2014 7:17 pm

AAU Teammate wrote:Bulls are in better shape, but New York is not Philly. In the East, NY can be competitive and with a few smart moves be fine. I think we overstate here how horrific the circumstances are in NY.

Being the city that they are, their FA dollars (when eventually they get back in that game) mean a ton to players.


Nevertheless, for this season the bulls could start it without Derrick and STILL field a better team than NY with melo. Again.
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Post#1649 » by thejet1711 » Sat Jul 5, 2014 7:17 pm

dafunky1 wrote:Remeber when Jo mentioned that Thibbs aint for everyone??? Maybe Anthony isnt cut out to deal with the Thibbs experience.


I thought that as well but Melo went out of his way to rave about Thibs to the media..during the season..while still on the Knicks. Such an odd series of events man.
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Post#1650 » by TheDeadPrez » Sat Jul 5, 2014 7:19 pm

dafunky1 wrote:Remeber when Jo mentioned that Thibbs aint for everyone??? Maybe Anthony isnt cut out to deal with the Thibbs experience.


That's what I say before I cry myself to sleep at night.

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Post#1651 » by MoneyMitch » Sat Jul 5, 2014 7:22 pm

Melo and Thibs are the ultimate odd-couple

So crazy it has to work
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Re: Melo 16- If it's meant to be, it's meant to be 

Post#1652 » by coldfish » Sat Jul 5, 2014 7:26 pm

As far as Melo and Thibs, people focus on the defense with Thibodeau.

The offense he wants to run is out of the post. He has publicly said it. He tries it every year with different players, Boozer, Deng and then Taj this year. It never works too well because of the players.

Melo's skill set is exactly what Thibodeau wants. Ironically, its those same abilities that have Phil Jackson telling Melo the triangle can work for him.

Its too bad. Melo could have made a run at MVP had he come to Chicago. Virtually every possession would have run through him.
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Post#1653 » by RememberLu » Sat Jul 5, 2014 7:29 pm

coldfish wrote:As far as Melo and Thibs, people focus on the defense with Thibodeau.

The offense he wants to run is out of the post. He has publicly said it. He tries it every year with different players, Boozer, Deng and then Taj this year. It never works too well because of the players.

Melo's skill set is exactly what Thibodeau wants. Ironically, its those same abilities that have Phil Jackson telling Melo the triangle can work for him.

Its too bad. Melo could have made a run at MVP had he come to Chicago. Virtually every possession would have run through him.


Why do you think playing out of the post is THE thing that Thibs wants to do? From what I've seen its just one of the things he wants to do on O.

The other thing is moving the ball around the perimeter, swinging it back and forth
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Post#1654 » by BeatDaCavs420 » Sat Jul 5, 2014 7:29 pm

MrFortune3 wrote:I do not believe that any Bulls fan would have a problem with Melo returning to the Knicks because of the money.
The issue is the frustration with so many athletes proclaiming it is about winning when making a decision and then in the end taking the money over the actual best chance to win.

If Melo goes back to NY I will not blame him nor hate him.
It would be annoying to see yet another whiff on a star player in FA for the Bulls but it will not stop us from being a top notch team.
I think I speak with most Bulls fan in saying that it will be fun to beat him if he returns to NYK though.

And mark my words if he stays with knicks and don't win a title when its all said and done he will say that is the biggest regret of his career not going somewhere when he had a legit change to do it....Just don't get it he has enough money to buy what he wants and he still going to get millions with bulls not to mention if they win title im sure he will get more endorsements and most of all a ring

But I guess the bulls fan in me only sees this as the most logical thing for him to do so maybe I am wrong and the knicks are the right choice but I don't think so
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Post#1655 » by theanimal23 » Sat Jul 5, 2014 7:31 pm

coldfish wrote:As far as Melo and Thibs, people focus on the defense with Thibodeau.

The offense he wants to run is out of the post. He has publicly said it. He tries it every year with different players, Boozer, Deng and then Taj this year. It never works too well because of the players.

Melo's skill set is exactly what Thibodeau wants. Ironically, its those same abilities that have Phil Jackson telling Melo the triangle can work for him.

Its too bad. Melo could have made a run at MVP had he come to Chicago. Virtually every possession would have run through him.


I was thinking this last night, if we are gunning for the top seed in the NBA next year with Melo, he may be the favorite to win the MVP. Rose has won it before and will hopefully play a huge role, but Melo would be the sexy pic. I doubt it will be considered in Melo's thoughts, but I do not think an MVP is out of question along with a championship if he comes here. Sure he'll lose out on a lot of money, but he'll go down as a "legend" (not an all-timer like Duncan, but ya get my drift).
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Post#1656 » by Mech Engineer » Sat Jul 5, 2014 7:33 pm

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dafunky1 wrote:Remeber when Jo mentioned that Thibbs aint for everyone??? Maybe Anthony isnt cut out to deal with the Thibbs experience.


I thought that as well but Melo went out of his way to rave about Thibs to the media..during the season..while still on the Knicks. Such an odd series of events man.


If that is the reason, Melo will chicken out while factoring in the money aspect....he wouldn't win in Chicago anyways. But, I doubt that is the case for Melo. His bar might have gone down after the miserable season in NY last year when he still got accolades.

Is he like Love just happy to be in the playoffs rather than trying to be one of the best of all times which means multiple years of sacrificing a lot of important things. And, even MJ had a tough time/burnt out doing that.

Is he ready to work on defensive drills for hours after a loss in the middle of the night or go learn some new things leaving his kids/family for long periods of time in summer? Those are the kind of things you probably have to do when what you have done has not won anything.
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Re: Melo 16- If it's meant to be, it's meant to be 

Post#1657 » by coldfish » Sat Jul 5, 2014 7:33 pm

RememberLu wrote:
coldfish wrote:As far as Melo and Thibs, people focus on the defense with Thibodeau.

The offense he wants to run is out of the post. He has publicly said it. He tries it every year with different players, Boozer, Deng and then Taj this year. It never works too well because of the players.

Melo's skill set is exactly what Thibodeau wants. Ironically, its those same abilities that have Phil Jackson telling Melo the triangle can work for him.

Its too bad. Melo could have made a run at MVP had he come to Chicago. Virtually every possession would have run through him.


Why do you think playing out of the post is THE thing that Thibs wants to do? From what I've seen its just one of the things he wants to do on O.

The other thing is moving the ball around the perimeter, swinging it back and forth


Early on in his career in Chicago he gave an interview. To paraphrase, he said he wants to play offense from the inside out. Players have even repeated the mantra.

You are right that not every play would be a post play with Melo here but that would have been the foundation.

As far as the "swing it side to side", people tend to forget that the triangle is based on that. You swing it to a side and form a triangle around a guy in the post. If he can get anything, the ball swings to the other side to try the same thing. Thibs' offense has a lot of triangle like moves in it.
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Re: Melo 16- If it's meant to be, it's meant to be 

Post#1658 » by theanimal23 » Sat Jul 5, 2014 7:33 pm

RememberLu wrote:
coldfish wrote:As far as Melo and Thibs, people focus on the defense with Thibodeau.

The offense he wants to run is out of the post. He has publicly said it. He tries it every year with different players, Boozer, Deng and then Taj this year. It never works too well because of the players.

Melo's skill set is exactly what Thibodeau wants. Ironically, its those same abilities that have Phil Jackson telling Melo the triangle can work for him.

Its too bad. Melo could have made a run at MVP had he come to Chicago. Virtually every possession would have run through him.


Why do you think playing out of the post is THE thing that Thibs wants to do? From what I've seen its just one of the things he wants to do on O.

The other thing is moving the ball around the perimeter, swinging it back and forth


Coldfish will be much better at it than me, but I think with Melo and Rose, our offense changes completely than years past. I see it Melo-centric via the post, along with Rose having isolation/pick' N rolls.

If we get Melo, I'm a lot more open to trading Butler for a SG that can shoot lights out. Or delegate Butler to the bench as a 6th man.
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Post#1659 » by pduh01 » Sat Jul 5, 2014 7:33 pm

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Thanks. I honestly will wait until other reports from "multiple source." before jumping over a conclusion :wink:


Denial can be a bad thing.


I'm sorry is there a official reports by other media outlets beside this one? Is there a official word on Melo decison on natiaon televison? Answer is no. I'm not saying he won't resigning despite my optimiztic there are no official word for Melo decision rather he resign or not.

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Post#1660 » by dafunky1 » Sat Jul 5, 2014 7:34 pm

coldfish wrote:As far as Melo and Thibs, people focus on the defense with Thibodeau.

The offense he wants to run is out of the post. He has publicly said it. He tries it every year with different players, Boozer, Deng and then Taj this year. It never works too well because of the players.

Melo's skill set is exactly what Thibodeau wants. Ironically, its those same abilities that have Phil Jackson telling Melo the triangle can work for him.

Its too bad. Melo could have made a run at MVP had he come to Chicago. Virtually every possession would have run through him.




Maybe thats why the Bulls want Pau.

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