NBA Trade Thread #12

[2weekswithpay]

All this Gafford talk yet who's the last NBA champion whose main center is a non shooter? Most recent example is probably the 21-22 Warriors with Draymond and Looney but even then they had unreal shooting performances from Poole and Otto Porter Jr.

the...oklahoma city thunder...?

Ah yes, Hartenstein and his 19 min per game in the Finals. Caruso started the 2nd half over him multiple times and Chet shifts to the floor stretching center. You need a stretch 5 in today's NBA plain and simple, especially if you're going to take advantage of Giddey's strength in driving to the rim.

The Warriors never had a floor spacing big in any of their championships.

The Lakers had AD, Dwight, and Javale.

Just the team with 3 of the greatest shooters of all time plus Poole in 22. The Lakers had two Hall of Famers playing dominantly and was backed up with ref bias. Forget a stretch 5 despite recent history saying it's necessary!

Good teams with great players tend to win championships. Chet plays on a historically great defense with the league MVP. I guess he shouldn't count either, right? By recent history, you mean 3 out of the 5 recent title winners. Not a big enough sample size to come to these conclusions for a luxury skillset at that.

[ShouldaPaidBG]

Throw the kitchen sink at either Trey Murphy or Herb Jones. Idk why the Pels would even think about moving them.

Is there a rumor that the Pels want to move those two?

Ya but it's more like a random tweet with a photo that I didn't vet

[CobysHairpick]

the...oklahoma city thunder...?

Ah yes, Hartenstein and his 19 min per game in the Finals. Caruso started the 2nd half over him multiple times and Chet shifts to the floor stretching center. You need a stretch 5 in today's NBA plain and simple, especially if you're going to take advantage of Giddey's strength in driving to the rim.

The Warriors never had a floor spacing big in any of their championships.

The Lakers had AD, Dwight, and Javale.

Just the team with 3 of the greatest shooters of all time plus Poole in 22. The Lakers had two Hall of Famers playing dominantly and was backed up with ref bias. Forget a stretch 5 despite recent history saying it's necessary!

Good teams with great players tend to win championships. Chet plays on a historically great defense with the league MVP. I guess he shouldn't count either, right? By recent history, you mean 3 out of the 5 recent title winners. Not a big enough sample size to come to these conclusions for a luxury skillset at that.

Chet is a stretch 5 and literally the archetype I'm talking about so really not sure what you're getting at.

OKC - Chet
Boston - Horford, Porzingis
Denver - Jokic
Warriors - Draymond, Looney
Bucks - Brolo

A shot blocking center that can shoot 3s is where the game is going unless you have generational players like Jokic and Steph.

[2weekswithpay]

Chet is a stretch 5 and literally the archetype I'm talking about so really not sure what you're getting at.

OKC - Chet
Boston - Horford, Porzingis
Denver - Jokic
Warriors - Draymond, Looney
Bucks - Brolo

A shot blocking center that can shoot 3s is where the game is going unless you have generational players like Jokic and Steph.

Just the team with 3 of the greatest shooters of all time plus Poole in 22. The Lakers had two Hall of Famers playing dominantly and was backed up with ref bias.

I know Chet is a stretch 5, but your attempt to discredit the other 2 title winners (LA/GSW) that didn't have stretch bigs is ridiculous. Stretch big or not, you aren't winning a title without elite players.

A shot blocking center that can shoot 3s is where the game is going unless you have generational players like Jokic and Steph.

Few of these centers exist. Everyone would love a center that can shoot 3s and defend, but most teams don't have one for a reason. Saying the league is trending towards this direction is an oversimplification of things.

[ShouldaPaidBG]

Chet is a stretch 5 and literally the archetype I'm talking about so really not sure what you're getting at.

OKC - Chet
Boston - Horford, Porzingis
Denver - Jokic
Warriors - Draymond, Looney
Bucks - Brolo

A shot blocking center that can shoot 3s is where the game is going unless you have generational players like Jokic and Steph.

I'm very happy with Matas and didn't expect him to drop to us, but this is why I wanted Kalel Ware really bad last draft. He's perfect.

[kodo]

Is NOP just blowing it up? What about Zion?

The New Orleans Pelicans are trading CJ McCollum, Kelly Olynyk and a future second-round pick to the Washington Wizards for Jordan Poole, Saddiq Bey and the No. 40 pick, sources tell ESPN.

The trade swaps guards -- the Wizards shifting from Poole to the veteran in McCollum, who has an expiring contract. Washington now is expected to approach $100 million in projected cap space in 2026. Pelicans move younger, possibly more dynamic with Poole and Bey.

[Infinity2152]

All this Gafford talk yet who's the last NBA champion whose main center is a non shooter? Most recent example is probably the 21-22 Warriors with Draymond and Looney but even then they had unreal shooting performances from Poole and Otto Porter Jr.

I understand that Gafford would provide much needed rim protection and play finishing, but that's really it. The goal is to find a center who can do that and shoot so you may as well acquire a center that could do at least one and develop the other.

Fam, we're at least three years from worrying about championships. Gafford's contract would be expired by then. You could draft a center every draft to find the unicorn you're looking for, but somebody has to play center in the meantime. Gafford could just move to backup center or be traded if you find the better center alternative. He's a damn good placeholder till you find him at $18 mill.

Every player we add doesn't have to be an all-around superstar, imo. There are very few of those. It's okay to add very good, but not perfect or ideal.

[boozapalooza]

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Boston just salary dumped Porzingis??? New Vuc landing spot perhaps…

[sco]

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Boston just salary dumped Porzingis??? New Vuc landing spot perhaps…

Nice pick-up for Hawks. Puts them ahead of us, if they weren't already.

[Chi town]

They were certainly right about transactions.

Zinger to ATL with Trae. What will they do at 13 now? Lost their pick to trade to move up.

[nomorezorro]

i have a hunch brooklyn might try to use 19, 22, 26, 27 or 36 to move up and consolidate picks...

[GuardianEnzo]

Surely there’s no way Brooklyn keeps five first-round picks this year. They’re going to consolidate and move up with somebody.

[Muzbar]

Surely there’s no way Brooklyn keeps five first-round picks this year. They’re going to consolidate and move up with somebody.

They've only got 4 FRPs, but I agree, surely they'll trade some into some sort of consolidation trade.

[Mk0]

Tingus to ATL for Plural George saves Boston alllll the money.

Kudos to BKN, Marks is fantastic when he doesn't have superstars forcing him to sign DeAndre Jordan.

Greasing the wheels on a Tingus dump and you get the 22nd pick is legit. And Terrance Mann is a solid swingman. Nothing special but a solid rotation guy. They may be able to flip him if they have a youngster on the squad they'd rather play.

[Pax for Prez]

Surely there’s no way Brooklyn keeps five first-round picks this year. They’re going to consolidate and move up with somebody.

Probably moving up for Ace Bailey

Pax

[ShouldaPaidBG]

i have a hunch brooklyn might try to use 19, 22, 26, 27 or 36 to move up and consolidate picks...

It would be kinda funny to use all 5 picks and make that their bench

[ChettheJet]

I would have to say that if BOS is in cost cutting mode but still wanting to win games they have to be looking at an expiring Vucevic as a cost saving, more durable better rebounding option.

I'd say like their KP deal a third team is needed. I still doubt the Bulls want two picks in this draft so BRK wouldn't be a good 3rd wheel If the Bulls take Hauser from BOS who could they get back if they sent Terry and Carter out? You never know, people are starting to be on the move

[MrSparkle]

It’s funny that Beal keeps canceling the Bulls.

First off, he’d actually be a good fit next to Giddey and Matas (even Coby). Maybe he’s got college beef with Billy? That would make no sense to me.

Is he scared of the pressure? The cold? We had a better record than PHX, so it can’t be winning.

Honestly, I’d be all about a giant roster dump.

Patrick, Jalen, Dalen, Jevon, Lonzo for Beal & #29 works perfectly. Suns get a bunch of Bulls’ log-jammed/decent roleplayers with upside. Dalen imo could really work next to Booker. Lonzo alone is worth it.

We clear Pat off the 2028 books. Good chance Beal thrives in fast-pace Billy play-in ball and becomes a very tradeable expiring.

[HomoSapien]

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What changed?

Just flagging that this tweet was from January and not recent as some people seem to be reacting as it’s a new tweet.

A lot can change in 6 months. Durant is gone, so they clearly have no shot of contending. He might have grown sour of how he was used in Phoenix (they brought him off the bench 15 times), etc.

All that said, what is Phoenix going to give us that is worth taking on Beal? The only thing that’s worth it for me is 10 and I can’t see that happening.

[Chi town]

I can totally see a Beal deal but there is no way we are getting the 10 pick. It would be Suns 27th pick.

Bulls save 40M and two years on PW’s contract after Beal expiries. Total money would be…

Beal 106M
Vuc 20
Pat 80
Jevon 6

I think Beal sucks and will be hurt most of the time. Don’t think he would hold back the growth of the young guys. I’d bring off the bench as our 6th man. He def helps wing leverage on Coby contract too.