Trade Thread: Armchair GMs welcomed

[PrimzyBulls81]

Random thought everyone will probably hate:

Chris Paul +picks to the Bulls
Felicio + Dunn to the Rockets

Dumping Dunn and Felicio basically saves 20 million over the life of his contract due to the bad salary you are removing which makes it 3/104 for Paul. I think Paul has his issues, but seems like he may actually much better with our team than with the Rockets due to us likely having a much more ball movement oriented offense.

Probably helps you more than anyone else you could add for a year or two. Almost certainly kills you by that final year.

Houston sends some type of future 1sts to compensate for taking on a ton of bad long term salary as well which allows them to reset around Harden.

If his deal was a year shorter I would highly consider it. But as is it would take the Bulls out of free agency for the next 8-9 years. Hard pass.

Whaaat??? 8-9 years lol

[qianlong]

The ship has sailed but I would have liked to trade with okc for Clarke and absorb Robertson, sending back the second and if needed another second.
They would reduce their salary and we get two rotation p!ayers

[Nikola]

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Random thought everyone will probably hate:

Chris Paul +picks to the Bulls
Felicio + Dunn to the Rockets

Dumping Dunn and Felicio basically saves 20 million over the life of his contract due to the bad salary you are removing which makes it 3/104 for Paul. I think Paul has his issues, but seems like he may actually much better with our team than with the Rockets due to us likely having a much more ball movement oriented offense.

Probably helps you more than anyone else you could add for a year or two. Almost certainly kills you by that final year.

Houston sends some type of future 1sts to compensate for taking on a ton of bad long term salary as well which allows them to reset around Harden.

If his deal was a year shorter I would highly consider it. But as is it would take the Bulls out of free agency for the next 8-9 years. Hard pass.

Whaaat??? 8-9 years lol

Well slight exaggeration. But the Bulls would have to trade core players for cap space to get back into it for a long time. Thats why everyone is talking about the 2 year contracts thing during this years free agency. Once Lauri and Wendell are off their rookie contracts it's going to take major moves to get back into free agency unless we let Lavine and Porter walk.

[MisterRoy]

If OKC wants salary relief how about Schroder and a pick for Dunn? That's $10M ish in salary plus whatever luxury tax this year and we get a vet PG. Also, Schroder isn't on their books for next year.


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[sco]

If OKC wants salary relief how about Schroder and a pick for Dunn? That's $10M ish in salary plus whatever luxury tax this year and we get a vet PG. Also, Schroder isn't on their books for next year.


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Yeah, OKC with Adams, Schroeder and Roberson seems like a great trade partner for us.

[sco]

I like the idea of seeing how bad Minny wants to be rid of Teague and his contract. If we could include Dunn and get back another guy like Okogie, or Bates-Diop, it could be a good deal.

[rtblues]

If OKC wants salary relief how about Schroder and a pick for Dunn? That's $10M ish in salary plus whatever luxury tax this year and we get a vet PG. Also, Schroder isn't on their books for next year.


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Figure out a way to move Felicio to them as well and I'm getting intrigued..

[MisterRoy]

If OKC wants salary relief how about Schroder and a pick for Dunn? That's $10M ish in salary plus whatever luxury tax this year and we get a vet PG. Also, Schroder isn't on their books for next year.


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Figure out a way to move Felicio to them as well and I'm getting intrigued..

Schroder is only $15M. Adams is $25M. If they want to unload Shroder, it's for Dunn. If they want to unload Adams, it's Dunn and Felicio. I don't want to send out a little salary and get too much back if we are free agent players in 20-21.

If we aren't going to be players, then maybe make it Val, Felicio and Dunn for Shroder, Adams and picks. $15M out and $35M in. That would use up our cap space for the next few seasons but it adds great depth. Vet min players to fill out the roster or maybe move Adams to a third team, like the Knicks.


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[dpucane]

I like the idea of seeing how bad Minny wants to be rid of Teague and his contract. If we could include Dunn and get back another guy like Okogie, or Bates-Diop, it could be a good deal.

Would 100% do Dunn for Teague and Okogie. Would maybe throw in the Memphis 2nd to get it done.

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[ChettheJet]

Seeing ATL trade Bazemore to PORT for Turner, it's basically you take the guy we don't want for the guy you don't want and they make the same amount of money.

So that made me look for a Felicio trade of the same making. And it's not looking all that good. Not that many players have similar contracts, many are in his range but either without the second year or that second year is non guaranteed or a team option. So the team taking Felicio gets stuck with year two and we don't.

The only options appear to be Jerami Grant with OKC, Josh Jackson in PHO and Dante Exum in Utah. Same price range, same two years. But why they would want Felicio over their guy I'm not sure

Unless some magic trade fairy shows up, I'm thinking we're stuck to the guy

[dpucane]

Seeing ATL trade Bazemore to PORT for Turner, it's basically you take the guy we don't want for the guy you don't want and they make the same amount of money.

So that made me look for a Felicio trade of the same making. And it's not looking all that good. Not that many players have similar contracts, many are in his range but either without the second year or that second year is non guaranteed or a team option. So the team taking Felicio gets stuck with year two and we don't.

The only options appear to be Jerami Grant with OKC, Josh Jackson in PHO and Dante Exum in Utah. Same price range, same two years. But why they would want Felicio over their guy I'm not sure

Unless some magic trade fairy shows up, I'm thinking we're stuck to the guy

Jerami Grant is really good and crucial to what they do.

Josh Jackson is on his last year. They want out but no way they take salary.

Exum makes a little more sense, but I don't see why the Jazz would like Felicio more than him.

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[Grodoboldo]

If OKC wants salary relief how about Schroder and a pick for Dunn? That's $10M ish in salary plus whatever luxury tax this year and we get a vet PG. Also, Schroder isn't on their books for next year.


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Figure out a way to move Felicio to them as well and I'm getting intrigued..

Schroder is only $15M. Adams is $25M. If they want to unload Shroder, it's for Dunn. If they want to unload Adams, it's Dunn and Felicio. I don't want to send out a little salary and get too much back if we are free agent players in 20-21.

If we aren't going to be players, then maybe make it Val, Felicio and Dunn for Shroder, Adams and picks. $15M out and $35M in. That would use up our cap space for the next few seasons but it adds great depth. Vet min players to fill out the roster or maybe move Adams to a third team, like the Knicks.


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I'd definitely do Schroder and a 1st for Dunn (and a 2nd? After all, it's GarPax). I would even absorb him without sending Dunn if they preferred. I would try to get a 2021 1st, but I'd probably settle for a 2020.
Adams would be trickier. But I bet they'd be able to trade him without including a pick because he's actually a good player entering his peak.

[xpmar9x]

Chi gets: Schroeder
Nyk gets: Adams
Okc gets: Dunn, Felicio, Ntilikina, Trier, future 2nd(s) from NY

OKC opens up a ton of cap, NYK gets a C, and we try out Schroeder?

[MisterRoy]

Then OKC can somehow get WCS from the Kings since they need a starting caliber center...but Roberson has to go somewhere, too.

OKC has so much money wrapped up in Westbrook and PG13. Its stopping them from making necessary changes.


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[aramada]

Schroder checks none of the boxes that we are focusing on:
- score first PG - we are looking for a good floor general to run the offense
- not making people around him better
- not helping with winning - BPM of -3.1 this past season, equally split between defense and offense
- terrible defense has been a theme throughout his career. At least Dunn helps a bit on that end
In conclusion, not a good vet PG to have around White. Actually, White turning into a player like Schroder (not impossible) would be a fairly bad outcome. We don't really want that kind of "mentor"

[leo921]

The only way I would take Schroder on for Dunn and cap space is if they gave us a 1st round pick as well. I would ask for 21 1st round top 4 protected pick. anything less then **** off and keep paying ur luxury tax bill

[WindyCityBorn]

Schroder checks none of the boxes that we are focusing on:
- score first PG - we are looking for a good floor general to run the offense
- not making people around him better
- not helping with winning - BPM of -3.1 this past season, equally split between defense and offense
- terrible defense has been a theme throughout his career. At least Dunn helps a bit on that end
In conclusion, not a good vet PG to have around White. Actually, White turning into a player like Schroder (not impossible) would be a fairly bad outcome. We don't really want that kind of "mentor"

You said we are looking for a floor general? Those type of point guards don't win Jack ****.

[Chicago-Bull-E]

Building the team through contract absorption

Houston trades: Eric Gordon + 2nd round pick
Chicago trades: Dunn

Lakers trade: Mo Wagner
Chicago trades: Cap space

Bulls get 3 point shooting and an expiring deal in Gordon, and a young 5 in Wagner who looked good in college.

Bulls then use the remaining money 6-8 million on Beverly.

Beverly, White, Arch
Lavine, Gordon, Valentine
Otto, Gordon, Hutch
Lauri, Otto
WCJ, Wagner

[mack2354]

Seeing ATL trade Bazemore to PORT for Turner, it's basically you take the guy we don't want for the guy you don't want and they make the same amount of money.

So that made me look for a Felicio trade of the same making. And it's not looking all that good. Not that many players have similar contracts, many are in his range but either without the second year or that second year is non guaranteed or a team option. So the team taking Felicio gets stuck with year two and we don't.

The only options appear to be Jerami Grant with OKC, Josh Jackson in PHO and Dante Exum in Utah. Same price range, same two years. But why they would want Felicio over their guy I'm not sure

Unless some magic trade fairy shows up, I'm thinking we're stuck to the guy

What I'd like to see is the Bulls do a similiar trade but with Dunn. POR and ATL traded to expiring wings they each didn't want and figured why not kick the wheels for free on another player with a similiar contract.

There has to be a couple of teams who wouldn't mind kicking the wheels on Dunn in exchange for their expiring Back-up big man that they don't plan on resigning. This way we can use 100% of our capspace on the Point Guard position.

[PrimzyBulls81]

Building the team through contract absorption

Houston trades: Eric Gordon + 2nd round pick
Chicago trades: Dunn

Lakers trade: Mo Wagner
Chicago trades: Cap space

Bulls get 3 point shooting and an expiring deal in Gordon, and a young 5 in Wagner who looked good in college.

Bulls then use the remaining money 6-8 million on Beverly.

Beverly, White, Arch
Lavine, Gordon, Valentine

Otto, Gordon, Hutch
Lauri, Otto
WCJ, Wagner

Beverley for 6-8M lol, not gonna happen.. Beverley will cost 10M and up