The Around The NBA Thread

[Am2626]

Invincible, eh?

Barring injuries. I wasn't sure before but after this series it's clear that the Nets with Kyrie and Harden would have been miles better than the Bucks, and therefore probably miles better than any other remaining team. I mean, the series would have been a blowout.

But believe me, I am happy to see the Bucks advance. Fear the Deer!

I would be too but hate what they did not being competitive in that game against the Bulls. Can’t root for the Bucks because of that.

[Ice Man]

Brook Lopez not showcasing the value of a Stanford education ... honestly, I think that was worse than J.R. Smith's gaffe. I mean, it was directly after a timeout, everybody on the planet but apparently the Stanford guy knew that there was 2 seconds to make a play.

[StunnerKO]

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[jc23]

Pulling for the sixers today.

[DASMACKDOWN]

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Players know their worth. Or at least agents do.

They know that guys like he and Schroder and double their salary in this offseason. So many teams with money and not many players to eat it up.

[Ice Man]

They know that guys like he and Schroder and double their salary in this offseason. So many teams with money and not many players to eat it up.

My unwritten rule is that guys who do nothing to help their teams in the playoffs don't get paid. That doesn't apply to Spencer, as he didn't get the chance to fail, but it certainly does for Schroder. I wouldn't give Butler the extension he wants, either., not after his 2021 playoff collapse. You want money? Deliver.

[Wingy]

Nets are going to be a beast next year. They will be deeper and now have the motivation of this loss.

If you were a team looking to win it all next season you probably hoped they would win this year and become satisfied to a degree.

The Nets will in theory be healthier next season but it doesn't mean they will win it all.
Boston, Philly, Milwaukee, Atlanta, Miami will all likely improve over the off-season.

Jazz are not going away, Denver is going to be improved, Suns will be improved, Clippers will be improved.

There are quite a few contenders they will have to get through to win that title. Not including GS depending upon how their health goes, the Lakers as well.

all those teams already had chemistry, nets will have that as well now. I dont know all those teams cap issues or the nets, im just saying if you thought they looked good when healthy this year they will be even better next.

While anything’s possible, everyone’s saying “if the Nets are healthy” - and that’s one heckuva big IF.

Durant and Harden will be closer to 34 and 33 than not at this time next year. Kyrie will have hit 30, and has always been injury prone.

Meanwhile these runs are making the younger, hungrier Bucks, Sixers, and Hawks stronger w/deep playoff experience. These teams will be better for it next year, whereas the Nets have been there, done that, and won’t get the same bump.

Of course IF healthy the Nets are a load, and an undoubted favorite, but seems like a huge IF from what we’ve seen in recent years.

You can’t win if you’re not playing, and you can’t build chemistry if one guy or another is out nursing a ding, or load managing.

[MrSparkle]

Presuming Kawhi and Paul miss the WCFs, is this the NBA’s worst final four of all time?

Embiid and Giannis are great, but their team builds so drab.

[jc23]

The Nets will in theory be healthier next season but it doesn't mean they will win it all.
Boston, Philly, Milwaukee, Atlanta, Miami will all likely improve over the off-season.

Jazz are not going away, Denver is going to be improved, Suns will be improved, Clippers will be improved.

There are quite a few contenders they will have to get through to win that title. Not including GS depending upon how their health goes, the Lakers as well.

all those teams already had chemistry, nets will have that as well now. I dont know all those teams cap issues or the nets, im just saying if you thought they looked good when healthy this year they will be even better next.

While anything’s possible, everyone’s saying “if the Nets are healthy” - and that’s one heckuva big IF.

Durant and Harden will be closer to 34 and 33 than not at this time next year. Kyrie will have hit 30, and has always been injury prone.

Meanwhile these runs are making the younger, hungrier Bucks, Sixers, and Hawks stronger w/deep playoff experience. These teams will be better for it next year, whereas the Nets have been there, done that, and won’t get the same bump.

Of course IF healthy the Nets are a load, and an undoubted favorite, but seems like a huge IF from what we’ve seen in recent years.

You can’t win if you’re not playing, and you can’t build chemistry if one guy or another is out nursing a ding, or load managing.

Bucks dont look stronger to me and the sixers are hanging by a meniscus thread. Hawks are definitely rising but they also got a taste of injury woes last game.

If you really think about it most contender teams have an 'IF' attached to them.

Harden has been an iron man up until this year so i think he can be counted on and KD just ran b2b playoff games where he didnt sit a minute. Kyrie is fragile, but i see the nets getting more ring chasers and overall just being a better version next season.

Im not a nets fan, i think how they built their team is bad for the league. I just saw them almost beat a Bucks team with KD and a one legged Harden. If anything this loss should give a team wide focus for next season.

[Michael Jackson]

Nets will be fine next year. They will come in favorites to start the season. Will they remain healthy? Who knows. Tough game on the body as you age so it can be hit or miss. They just need KD and one of the other two to win imho.

[Michael Jackson]

Presuming Kawhi and Paul miss the WCFs, is this the NBA’s worst final four of all time?

Embiid and Giannis are great, but their team builds so drab.

Paul won’t miss the whole WCF but yeah it’s not star heavy.

[Dan Z]

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Players know their worth. Or at least agents do.

They know that guys like he and Schroder and double their salary in this offseason. So many teams with money and not many players to eat it up.

I guess that means he's leaving the Nets?

It's hard to gauge how much he'll get because he's coming off an injury, but I agree that it'll be more than 12.3 million.

[Dan Z]

Nets will be fine next year. They will come in favorites to start the season. Will they remain healthy? Who knows. Tough game on the body as you age so it can be hit or miss. They just need KD and one of the other two to win imho.

My guess is that Harden will be motivated and go back to being healthy like he has in the past.

KD and Kyrie I'm not sure about. Keep in mind that Durant only played 35 games and Kyrie 54 (more than I thought).

I agree with you...they'll be fine.

[Red8911]

Nets have some players off the bench that could of helped them. Mike James,Deandre Jordan, Claxton. Not sure what Nash is doing over playing all their starters, wouldn’t hurt to give them breaks through the game to not get as gassed as they were.

Even though the Nets had their injuries I still had them winning the championship mostly because of Durant. This was surprising that they lost to the Bucks, disappointing season for them.

Nash makes Thibs look like Steve Kerr. Atleast Thibs actually did play competent bench players when he had them. Not sure about Deandre, but Mike James and Claxton are absolutely good enough to log 20 minutes

Exactly why not use them, Nash really fkd that up. On Deandre he actually wasn’t bad when he he played for them this season, just solid. For the playoffs he would definitely help them. I wonder now if the Nets will blame Nash to fire him or just blame the injuries and keep him.

[Jeffster81]

Presuming Kawhi and Paul miss the WCFs, is this the NBA’s worst final four of all time?

Embiid and Giannis are great, but their team builds so drab.

It certainly does suck for the NBA but as a fan, I am perfectly fine with this final four. Until recent years, none of these teams were considered consistent championship contender, so it's refreshing to see new faces in these games.

[LateNight]

Presuming Kawhi and Paul miss the WCFs, is this the NBA’s worst final four of all time?

Embiid and Giannis are great, but their team builds so drab.

Don’t agree. I actually would have preferred for the clippers to lose too. Time for some new blood

[Andi Obst]

They know that guys like he and Schroder and double their salary in this offseason. So many teams with money and not many players to eat it up.

I’m willing to bet a lot against either guy making twice as much as he does now next season. IMO Schröder/his agent made a huge mistake by not accepting that Lakers deal. He’s not worth 20 mil, not even close.

[Almost Retired]

Presuming Kawhi and Paul miss the WCFs, is this the NBA’s worst final four of all time?

Embiid and Giannis are great, but their team builds so drab.

It certainly does suck for the NBA but as a fan, I am perfectly fine with this final four. Until recent years, none of these teams were considered consistent championship contender, so it's refreshing to see new faces in these games.

I am just happy LeBron is out of the picture. I am happy with any combination of teams except the Lakers. The last few years I have gotten sick of whiny, floppy LeBron. One of my least favorite athletes in decades.

[Almost Retired]

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Players know their worth. Or at least agents do.

They know that guys like he and Schroder and double their salary in this offseason. So many teams with money and not many players to eat it up.

I guess that means he's leaving the Nets?

It's hard to gauge how much he'll get because he's coming off an injury, but I agree that it'll be more than 12.3 million.

If I'm a GM Dinwiddie would have to sign a "show me" contract for 1 year before I even gave him the $12.3 Million. He does have 2 things going for him. He's only 28 and his ACL tear was only partial. So he has a good shot at a mostly full recovery. But I'm wary of repeat injuries. Too much painful history with D.Rose. Spenser is a decent player. He's a solid starter but he isn't going to improve any team all that much. If I'm the Bulls I'd rather take a chance with a cheaper Micic who we can probably acquire the rights to for a truck load of deep dish pizzas and sign for 1/3 or less of what Spenser might get.

[MrFortune3]

Nets are going to be a beast next year. They will be deeper and now have the motivation of this loss.

If you were a team looking to win it all next season you probably hoped they would win this year and become satisfied to a degree.

The Nets will in theory be healthier next season but it doesn't mean they will win it all.
Boston, Philly, Milwaukee, Atlanta, Miami will all likely improve over the off-season.

Jazz are not going away, Denver is going to be improved, Suns will be improved, Clippers will be improved.

There are quite a few contenders they will have to get through to win that title. Not including GS depending upon how their health goes, the Lakers as well.

all those teams already had chemistry, nets will have that as well now. I dont know all those teams cap issues or the nets, im just saying if you thought they looked good when healthy this year they will be even better next.

Nets will have to re-sign guys and upgrade their bench overall to be in position to be even better next season.
Durant, Kyrie and Harden all have health issues and we saw what happens already when they start missing pieces.