Melo #14- Can Melo Come Out and Play?

[BR0D1E86]

Melo with Gasol in NY is still not good enough to make the Finals.

I doubt it's good enough to get home court advantage in the 1st round. Might not be relevant to his decision though.

[Rerisen]

rose kirk(vet min)
Butler snell
Melo McDermott
Taj Bairstow
Noah sMITH

VS

ROSE KIRK
Stphenson MDJ
Butler McDermott
Taj Mirotic
Noah Smith

Which is the better roster?

Seems clear the top but how much better is "ROSE KIRK" than "rose kirk"?

[Polynice4Pippen]

Is Pau Gasol really going to take the tax payer exemption to get a sixth seed with the Knicks? Just can't see it happening.

I am hoping this is like Cleveland trying to figure a way to get Bosh so Lebron would stay.

Especially when OKC is begging him to join them. Spurs too.

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[fleet]

I'm still optimistic and here is why.

If Melo was sold on the idea of rebuilding the Knicks next year into a serious contender he would have simply chosen to opt in to his contract this year, why?

1. He would have made the maximum amount of money for this upcoming season.
2. He would have maintained maximum flexibility for next season if the plan failed.
3. If it worked out and the Knicks did sign a key player or two he then gets his super max contract, essentially giving him a 6 year 153 million deal (counting this upcoming season).

Why opt out now, take less money this year, and risk the Knicks striking out next year and being left as a loser until you're 35 years old? It makes zero sense. The only reason I can think of is the risk of injury this upcoming year, but really, even with a torn ACL he probably still gets the max.

He opted out because he wants to leave. If NY doesn't get a commitment tonight I think he is gone. He will take the weekend to ensure his family is onboard and then commit to Chicago. Don't you think if his wife and kid were dead set on staying in NY right now he would have simply opted in?

Melo's getting older. Smart of him to lock up his long term super max deal this summer before risking that his body starts breaking down. Or just a regular injury. If you listen to some, that has already begun to happen some.

[BR0D1E86]

I'm still trying to wrap my head around the Knicks going out to LA. Isn't it pretty cut and dry from their standpoint? "Hi Carmelo, here's the 5 year maximum offer". Why does that require flying across the country? I'd think a 10 minute conference call would just about do it. And then of course, since this is only about the money, Carmelo would accept it and this would all be over.

That doesn't seem to be the case. They are still trying to sell him on signing for less money or some kind of rebuilding plan. I do not believe this is as cut and dry as some of the reporters are leading everyone to believe.

This guy

Got it. Accepting a 5 year deal worth over a hundred million dollars all hinges on playing with a 38 year old forward on the decline.

He's 33. Other than that I agree with your general premise.

[Hahn]

lol this is starting to sound alot like 2010, when Lebron and Bosh were talking about teaming up together and people were assuming they were coming to the Bulls.

[sporadiclee]

Do it on the Bulls!

[tweet]https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/484780330692259840[/tweet]

This can't be good.

[blumeany]

Reports said that Melo wanted Taj if he signed for the Bulls, there's no sense about thinking of trading him.

He knows how much he can get, it's up to him. He either has Taj on the core, just like he wants, or he's dumb to ask for Taj and 20M$.

It's really on him: Taj + 16M$ or no Taj and 20M$.

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Not Melo said.

[Rerisen]

Do it on the Bulls!

[tweet]https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/484780330692259840[/tweet]

This can't be good.

He's seemed to be looking for excuses to stay like one reporter put it.

Unfortunately, there might not be many good ones, or he wouldn't be on his magical mystery tour of the country.

[WinCity]

lol this is starting to sound alot like 2010, when Lebron and Bosh were talking about teaming up together and people were assuming they were coming to the Bulls.

That would be hilarious. Now that we heard the Bulls are making a push for Gasol, if he teams up with Melo in NY I will LOL really hard.

[inescape]

I'm still optimistic and here is why.

If Melo was sold on the idea of rebuilding the Knicks next year into a serious contender he would have simply chosen to opt in to his contract this year, why?

1. He would have made the maximum amount of money for this upcoming season.
2. He would have maintained maximum flexibility for next season if the plan failed.
3. If it worked out and the Knicks did sign a key player or two he then gets his super max contract, essentially giving him a 6 year 153 million deal (counting this upcoming season).

Why opt out now, take less money this year, and risk the Knicks striking out next year and being left as a loser until you're 35 years old? It makes zero sense. The only reason I can think of is the risk of injury this upcoming year, but really, even with a torn ACL he probably still gets the max.

He opted out because he wants to leave. If NY doesn't get a commitment tonight I think he is gone. He will take the weekend to ensure his family is onboard and then commit to Chicago. Don't you think if his wife and kid were dead set on staying in NY right now he would have simply opted in?

Melo's getting older. Smart of him to lock up his long turn super max deal this summer before risking that his body starts breaking down. Or just a regular injury. If you listen to some, that has already begun to happen some.

Well if he is that concerned about dropping off in talent this year then maybe we don't want to sign him at all. What I do know is he won't be getting that extra 23 million dollars the year he is 36 years old.

[HeavyC]

This guy

Got it. Accepting a 5 year deal worth over a hundred million dollars all hinges on playing with a 38 year old forward on the decline.

He's 33. Other than that I agree with your general premise.

Ha...yeah, that was dumb on my part.

[HoopsterJones]

Melo with Gasol in NY is still not good enough to make the Finals. Best chance is to land a star in next year's free agent pool which may be dried up before then (Love, Aldridge). Which again is NY's pitch. They can offer the most money, and are selling him on waiting another year when the Knicks have cap space.

I think they are pretending they can get Westbrook and/or Durant.

Durant is a free agent in 2016, Westbrook in 2017. I'd be surprised if they break that team up. They seem to be one piece away, Perkins is worthless and is expiring after next season. Gasol playing Center might be enough to get them to the Finals if they are healthy enough.

[AAU Teammate]

the NY money is enough to make Melo want to be a medium seed

Phil can sell melo on this: dirk won with tyson chandler and role guys. (heh, and they just traded chandler..)

[Chitownbulls]

Espn about to talk about Gasols meeting with Bulls

Dude....Melo ain't going back to the Knicks IMO.

[fleet]

I'm still optimistic and here is why.

If Melo was sold on the idea of rebuilding the Knicks next year into a serious contender he would have simply chosen to opt in to his contract this year, why?

1. He would have made the maximum amount of money for this upcoming season.
2. He would have maintained maximum flexibility for next season if the plan failed.
3. If it worked out and the Knicks did sign a key player or two he then gets his super max contract, essentially giving him a 6 year 153 million deal (counting this upcoming season).

Why opt out now, take less money this year, and risk the Knicks striking out next year and being left as a loser until you're 35 years old? It makes zero sense. The only reason I can think of is the risk of injury this upcoming year, but really, even with a torn ACL he probably still gets the max.

He opted out because he wants to leave. If NY doesn't get a commitment tonight I think he is gone. He will take the weekend to ensure his family is onboard and then commit to Chicago. Don't you think if his wife and kid were dead set on staying in NY right now he would have simply opted in?

Melo's getting older. Smart of him to lock up his long term super max deal this summer before risking that his body starts breaking down. Or just a regular injury. If you listen to some, that has already begun to happen some.

Well if he is that concerned about dropping off in talent this year then maybe we don't want to sign him at all. What I do know is he won't be getting that extra 23 million dollars the year he is 36 years old.

Hey, I hear ya. I almost prefer the Lance Stephenson fuller roster plan anyway.

[TheCly]

I feel like when Melo interviews with Phil it will be a lot like Mr. Cheezle's talks. There will be tea and he will talk about how refreshing it is to walk barefoot through a grass field.

Maybe some Yoga? Phil kinda letting himself go.

No wonder Phil doesn't want to coach, he might be tempted to EAT the bench!

The Knicks can no longer offer Melo a max contract. Phil ate their salary cap!

[kdapiton]

melo's fw everytime the knicks lose in the first round for the next few years

[HoopsterJones]

Is Pau Gasol really going to take the tax payer exemption to get a sixth seed with the Knicks? Just can't see it happening.

I am hoping this is like Cleveland trying to figure a way to get Bosh so Lebron would stay.

Especially when OKC is begging him to join them. Spurs too.

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If Pau wants to win, OKC and SPURS offer the best chance. One of those two teams will be representing the West in next year's Finals in my opinion.

If he wants to get paid, well then there's always Cleveland.

[Gregnice33]

This board is going to go nuclear if Melo stays in NY.