Coronavirus

[dougthonus]

I think also everyone will need to practice social distancing at work as much as possible as well. And follow other protocol, such as having employees wash their hands upon entering the workplace, extra custodial staff to do periodic disinfecting of the workplace, perhaps checking everyone's temperature before they are allowed to work their shifts, etc., etc. If these things are followed, there is no reason that many workplaces could not function in a relatively safe manner. The bigger risk is probably getting to and from work- anyone taking public transportation is going to be exposed. Not sure how to mitigate that, other mandate wearing of masks and gloves.

Whatever we do, we are going to need a lot more PPE in the future, as well as sanitizer.

If people switch to reusable PPE, then it shouldn't be so hard to create. I do think while this is existing they should mandate masks on public transit and public work places.

[dumbell78]

I really recommend watching this. It's hands down the best video I've seen on the subject and I learned a TON from it.

Watch on YouTube

This is a good vid, some of this stuff I was doing anyway but all of it should be part of our routine.

[DuckIII]

I would like to take this opportunity to thank the habanero pepper.

I use these a lot for various purposes. I wear latex gloves when I work with them. I'm using those same gloves now when I go to the stores. I don't have that many so I disinfect them and then re-use. Who'da thunk it.

I’m a chile head. If you can get your latex covered hands on Trinidad scorpions give them a shot. I love habaneros as well but scorpions have incredible flavor.

[Chi town]

https://youtu.be/gAk7aX5hksU

Top Covid expert in South Korea. Worth every min of the watch.

People need to get informed and start thinking about the next 3 months and the 9 months of economic impact thereafter. This thing is a marathon. Expectations will have to be altered in order to be able to endure what’s coming.

I see no way we can’t drastically change international travel if we are to stay safe.

[transplant]

I would like to take this opportunity to thank the habanero pepper.

I use these a lot for various purposes. I wear latex gloves when I work with them. I'm using those same gloves now when I go to the stores. I don't have that many so I disinfect them and then re-use. Who'da thunk it.

I’m a chile head. If you can get your latex covered hands on Trinidad scorpions give them a shot. I love habaneros as well but scorpions have incredible flavor.

Hmmm. Not surprising that my brother from another mother is also a chile head.

I'll look for some from fresh ones, but these are not the times to be making non-essential shopping trips. I have however just ordered a ground version which I will use on my world famous homemade insane dry-roasted peanuts Thanks for the tip.

[MrSparkle]

How are you feeling, Mr. Sparkle?

I’m good, thanks man. It was more an intense allergy/cold I think. This morning the chest tightness is gone, now left with light nose congestion and light fatigue. I slept a lot and drank hot tea and ate greens, fruits and soup for 4 days straight. I still have my sense of smell. Ruling out Corona unless tomorrow rolls around and it all goes parachute.

Virtual doctor said theoretically the chest tightness should come last not first, said anxiety/nerves causing irregular breathing are frequently coming up as a diagnosis right now for common colds and other mild respiratory viruses that are actually quite abundant this season.

[Dresden]

I don't trust 99% of what China is reporting. These guys are selling faulty tests and used medical masks to the world as we speak. They are rolling out the propaganda machine at this point and diverting attention.

I don't quite get all the animosity towards China. Our own CDC sent out faulty test kits to many providers, which were useless. And our president has been saying one erroneous thing after another. He didn't want to let people off that cruise ship because it would be counted as additional cases inside the USA, which would make him look bad.

[Dresden]

How are you feeling, Mr. Sparkle?

I’m good, thanks man. It was more an intense allergy/cold I think. This morning the chest tightness is gone, now left with light nose congestion and light fatigue. I slept a lot and drank hot tea and ate greens, fruits and soup for 4 days straight. I still have my sense of smell. Ruling out Corona unless tomorrow rolls around and it all goes parachute.

Virtual doctor said theoretically the chest tightness should come last not first, said anxiety/nerves causing irregular breathing are frequently coming up as a diagnosis right now for common colds and other mild respiratory viruses that are actually quite abundant this season.

Glad to hear it!

[transplant]

I don't trust 99% of what China is reporting. These guys are selling faulty tests and used medical masks to the world as we speak. They are rolling out the propaganda machine at this point and diverting attention.

I don't quite get all the animosity towards China. Our own CDC sent out faulty test kits to many providers, which were useless. And our president has been saying one erroneous thing after another. He didn't want to let people off that cruise ship because it would be counted as additional cases inside the USA, which would make him look bad.

China's not going to make or break us, but they were reporting 81,000+ confirmed infections a week ago and the number is essentially the same today. They're under no obligation to openly share their experience so they're not. Fine, but I don't love them for it.

[Dresden]

I don't trust 99% of what China is reporting. These guys are selling faulty tests and used medical masks to the world as we speak. They are rolling out the propaganda machine at this point and diverting attention.

I don't quite get all the animosity towards China. Our own CDC sent out faulty test kits to many providers, which were useless. And our president has been saying one erroneous thing after another. He didn't want to let people off that cruise ship because it would be counted as additional cases inside the USA, which would make him look bad.

China's not going to make or break us, but they were reporting 81,000+ confirmed infections a week ago and the number is essentially the same today. They're under no obligation to openly share their experience so they're not. Fine, but I don't love them for it.

A brief rundown about how our own leader has consistently been peddling false information to us. And unfortunately, what he says and does (or didn't do), could make or break us:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/analyzing-patterns-trumps-falsehoods-coronavirus-140832644.html

[BigUps]

Guidelines extended to April 30th and the death rate will be greatest in 2 weeks.

Anyone focusing on getting people back to work right now is fooling themselves. Kiss that topic goodbye and bring it back up in a few weeks. The White House finally saying their models are disturbing (50,000 - 100,000 deaths would be a good outcome). Grim press conference today.

[MAQ]

I really recommend watching this. It's hands down the best video I've seen on the subject and I learned a TON from it.

Watch on YouTube

I realize doing all you can to stay safe is the point. The wiping down of groceries just seems like a bridge too far. You won't be perfect.

Even this doctor who is worried that the virus is on the cereal box does not think to disinfect his hands prior to touching the plastic bag inside of the box.

At what point do you just roll with the punches? Honest question, not trying to shame anyone trying to be safe.

[Chi town]

Guidelines extended to April 30th and the death rate will be greatest in 2 weeks.

Anyone focusing on getting people back to work right now is fooling themselves. Kiss that topic goodbye and bring it back up in a few weeks. The White House finally saying their models are disturbing (50,000 - 100,000 deaths would be a good outcome). Grim press conference today.

It’s needed though. Realism with empathy and strength will rally our nation. We need strong leadership that communicates truth with clarity.

April 30th is good but it won’t be enough. Last week only half the states had cases. Those states won’t peak for another 4 weeks.

Like Gates said, we need 10 weeks of shut down.

[Dresden]

I really recommend watching this. It's hands down the best video I've seen on the subject and I learned a TON from it.

Watch on YouTube

I realize doing all you can to stay safe is the point. The wiping down of groceries just seems like a bridge too far. You won't be perfect.

Even this doctor who is worried that the virus is on the cereal box does not think to disinfect his hands prior to touching the plastic bag inside of the box.

At what point do you just roll with the punches? Honest question, not trying to shame anyone trying to be safe.

Agreed. that seems pretty extreme. I can see taking your shoes off before you go into the house, and throwing away the grocery bags right away, but I wonder how many viruses are really likely to be carried from the hand of whoever stocked the shelves, to the box of cereal, and then onto your hand, and then onto your countertop, and then onto someone else's hand, and then into their bodies.

[Dresden]

Guidelines extended to April 30th and the death rate will be greatest in 2 weeks.

Anyone focusing on getting people back to work right now is fooling themselves. Kiss that topic goodbye and bring it back up in a few weeks. The White House finally saying their models are disturbing (50,000 - 100,000 deaths would be a good outcome). Grim press conference today.

It’s needed though. Realism with empathy and strength will rally our nation. We need strong leadership that communicates truth with clarity.

April 30th is good but it won’t be enough. Last week only half the states had cases. Those states won’t peak for another 4 weeks.

Like Gates said, we need 10 weeks of shut down.

I think the next week or two will tell us a lot about how fast it's spreading. Especially as we are mowing doing more and more testing. I'm praying we start seeing some places level off in the number of new cases.

[P.C.]

I really recommend watching this. It's hands down the best video I've seen on the subject and I learned a TON from it.

Watch on YouTube

I realize doing all you can to stay safe is the point. The wiping down of groceries just seems like a bridge too far. You won't be perfect.

Even this doctor who is worried that the virus is on the cereal box does not think to disinfect his hands prior to touching the plastic bag inside of the box.

At what point do you just roll with the punches? Honest question, not trying to shame anyone trying to be safe.

Agreed. that seems pretty extreme. I can see taking your shoes off before you go into the house, and throwing away the grocery bags right away, but I wonder how many viruses are really likely to be carried from the hand of whoever stocked the shelves, to the box of cereal, and then onto your hand, and then onto your countertop, and then onto someone else's hand, and then into their bodies.

It probably isn't likely to save you from getting Coronavirus. All of the meds who have spoken on this topic seem to suggest that the vast, vast majority of COVID-19 cases are spread human to human, within the six foot radius, and not from surface contamination. That being said I have two kids under the age of four -- I'm not taking any chances with my health or theirs. It took my wife and I a combined hour and half or so to wash down maybe three weeks of groceries today. It feels like it was worth it. If we get it (when we get it, really) I'm going to want to know I've done everything in my control possible to prevent it.

[TheStig]

I really recommend watching this. It's hands down the best video I've seen on the subject and I learned a TON from it.

Watch on YouTube

I realize doing all you can to stay safe is the point. The wiping down of groceries just seems like a bridge too far. You won't be perfect.

Even this doctor who is worried that the virus is on the cereal box does not think to disinfect his hands prior to touching the plastic bag inside of the box.

At what point do you just roll with the punches? Honest question, not trying to shame anyone trying to be safe.

Yeah, I saw that he was clearly frazzled. It's interesting to hear. I leave most groceries in the car for 3 days but frozen and bread does need to be handled like this.

Nothing you do will be the perfect solution or guarantee success. But doing things like this, wearing a mask and gloves does improve your odds.

[Wingy]

I really recommend watching this. It's hands down the best video I've seen on the subject and I learned a TON from it.

Watch on YouTube

I realize doing all you can to stay safe is the point. The wiping down of groceries just seems like a bridge too far. You won't be perfect.

Even this doctor who is worried that the virus is on the cereal box does not think to disinfect his hands prior to touching the plastic bag inside of the box.

At what point do you just roll with the punches? Honest question, not trying to shame anyone trying to be safe.

Agreed. that seems pretty extreme. I can see taking your shoes off before you go into the house, and throwing away the grocery bags right away, but I wonder how many viruses are really likely to be carried from the hand of whoever stocked the shelves, to the box of cereal, and then onto your hand, and then onto your countertop, and then onto someone else's hand, and then into their bodies.

I’m with you guys as well. While I won’t even consider criticizing anyone who wants to follow these procedures, it just crosses the line for my own life.

This vid has gone viral (oy...can we use that term anymore?) at work because our CEO emailed it out to the company. On my very small team where not everyone explicitly voiced their opinion, there was another who said he felt the same as us.

It’s like Dresden said - all those exchanges, and then there’s the time that goes by between the exchanges, and the time before you actually touch a lot of the food again anyway...it’s likely to be 100% gone, or at much lower concentrations for a significant portion of your groceries.

For me the extra time (one poster wrote 3 hours for the grocery process), the stress/anxiety/paranoia that comes w/this level of risk intolerance...just not worth it (again, just for me personally). When you inevitably miss, and dump 80% of your takeout on the counter...or worse on the floor. When there’s the extra dirty dishes for all the containers. Then I’d bet there’s a pretty good probability you’re going to be consuming some of your disinfectant. How will we ever build immunity to this if everyone goes full-on germaphobe?

Again, I’m not laughing at this, and I support anyone that wants to do it....just not my thing. Also, judging based on this vid alone - Dr. VW seems like a pretty awesome guy who’s presenting the info., and I think it DOES make some people feel better to follow these steps...so kudos to him.

[P.C.]

I realize doing all you can to stay safe is the point. The wiping down of groceries just seems like a bridge too far. You won't be perfect.

Even this doctor who is worried that the virus is on the cereal box does not think to disinfect his hands prior to touching the plastic bag inside of the box.

At what point do you just roll with the punches? Honest question, not trying to shame anyone trying to be safe.

Agreed. that seems pretty extreme. I can see taking your shoes off before you go into the house, and throwing away the grocery bags right away, but I wonder how many viruses are really likely to be carried from the hand of whoever stocked the shelves, to the box of cereal, and then onto your hand, and then onto your countertop, and then onto someone else's hand, and then into their bodies.

I’m with you guys as well. While I won’t even consider criticizing anyone who wants to follow these procedures, it just crosses the line for my own life.

This vid has gone viral (oy...can we use that term anymore?) at work because our CEO emailed it out to the company. On my very small team where not everyone explicitly voiced their opinion, there was another who said he felt the same as us.

It’s like Dresden said - all those exchanges, and then there’s the time that goes by between the exchanges, and the time before you actually touch a lot of the food again anyway...it’s likely to be 100% gone, or at much lower concentrations for a significant portion of your groceries.

For me the extra time (one poster wrote 3 hours for the grocery process), the stress/anxiety/paranoia that comes w/this level of risk intolerance...just not worth it (again, just for me personally). When you inevitably miss, and dump 80% of your takeout on the counter...or worse on the floor. When there’s the extra dirty dishes for all the containers. Then I’d bet there’s a pretty good probability you’re going to be consuming some of your disinfectant. How will we ever build immunity to this if everyone goes full-on germaphobe?

Again, I’m not laughing at this, and I support anyone that wants to do it....just not my thing. Also, judging based on this vid alone - Dr. VW seems like a pretty awesome guy who’s presenting the info., and I think it DOES make some people feel better to follow these steps...so kudos to him.

I don’t think you have to view the video literally either. There are conceptual pieces that are pretty easy to incorporate. You can have your delivery guy leave your food on the stoop and then only bring the food in and not the bag. That’s is what Sanjay Gupta says his family does. Maybe it takes a full day to three to completely get rid of surface contamination but I wouldn’t be surprised if your delivery guy is the main risk, and that largely limits possible spread during the process.

We’re not going to avoid getting this; just trying not to all get it at once.

[Chi town]

Guidelines extended to April 30th and the death rate will be greatest in 2 weeks.

Anyone focusing on getting people back to work right now is fooling themselves. Kiss that topic goodbye and bring it back up in a few weeks. The White House finally saying their models are disturbing (50,000 - 100,000 deaths would be a good outcome). Grim press conference today.

It’s needed though. Realism with empathy and strength will rally our nation. We need strong leadership that communicates truth with clarity.

April 30th is good but it won’t be enough. Last week only half the states had cases. Those states won’t peak for another 4 weeks.

Like Gates said, we need 10 weeks of shut down.

I think the next week or two will tell us a lot about how fast it's spreading. Especially as we are mowing doing more and more testing. I'm praying we start seeing some places level off in the number of new cases.

Amen to that!