dice wrote:HomoSapien wrote:MGB8 wrote:
A team that collapses the way the Bulls did against Orlando and the Spurs (and the Pacers and the Rockets) is probably not ready for prime time in the playoffs... as an answer to "why not us?"
I'm not saying that there's no chance... but there are some serious warning signs about the team. But a hot run with everyone healthy at the same time while the Nets and Bucks, etc., deal with x/y/z issues? Stranger thing have happened.
I mean, why would you view that as a red flag? We’re missing 4 of our 5 best defenders, our depth is depleted causing us to lean on guys who aren’t NBA caliber, and we were also missing Zach and JaVonte for the Orlando game. I’ve seen a bunch of people use this stretch as an example of us not being ready or a reason for why we shouldn’t go in on a big trade and frankly I don’t follow the logic. We’re losing because our defensive infrastructure has been essentially removed. That doesn’t indicate any information about this team other than what it would indicate about any other team — if you get hit by tons of injuries, you’ll suffer.
Here’s why we should be optimistic - Brooklyn looks shaky and we project to be fully healthy (including possibly Patrick Williams) by the start of the playoffs.
if the bengals can make the super bowl, the celtics and hawks can make the finals
the east is wide open
Football is one game at a time - much more variability than a series.
Meanwhile, I think folks are setting themselves up for a letdown trying to downplay the issues. What other contending team has their defense fall apart - from very good to bad - based on their 6th man going down?
And the Warriors - who, for purposes of fairness, are the front-runners this season - have only two bad losses - one to contending the Bucks, one to the middling T-Wolves.... where in that Wolves neither Steph Curry nor Draymond played. Their other few losses were close. They also thumped the Bulls by 26 (though Bulls no Vuc)
The Bucks have a bad loss to the pretty good Heat in the 2nd game (early games tend to count less as signals, IMO; also no Jrue), a bad loss to the middling Hawks (no Kris), a bad loss and less-bad loss to the pretty good Cavs (no Giannis, Kris, or Jrue for the bad loss, no explanation for the less-bad one), and a bad loss to the pretty-good-but-terribly-inconsistent Nuggets (no explanation... maybe a slump - that and the Cavs game post Caruso karma?).
But not being thumped by bottom feeders. Some losses, but not being beat down by ~20 or more (Spurs game wasn't that bad, true, akin to the Bucks loss to the Pistons... but they don't have the other thumpins by bad teams like the Magic, Pacers... not to mention the other bad losses [by ~20 or worse] to good-to-great teams like the Cavs, Heat, Warriors).
I'm not saying that the Bulls are a bad team. Obviously they aren't - they are a very good team. And they are out their starting PG and 6th man, and have been without their starting "4" (albeit a middling player at this point in his career), throughout the season, and out a key "4" reserve as well.
But they have their soon-to-be MAX player in Lavine, their "playing-like-a-Max-player-this-year" DeRozan, and their "traded-for-an-all-star-level-offensive-5-who-hasn't-consistently-played-like-that" in Vuc... Normally, a big 3 plus decent role players is enough to at least avoid being blown out by bad teams.
Now, if Zach is still hurting... that would be additional factor explaining middling play that, if resolved, could increase playoff upside. But we don't know that right now.