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Post#1721 » by Jcool0 » Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:23 am

VolumePoster wrote:Honestly the bulls have fallen behind Charlotte, Washington, and Atlanta in talent. About on par with Cleveland. The only team in certain we’re more talented than is Detroit. Woof.


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Post#1722 » by cjbulls » Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:24 am

Okoro looked really good again tonight, but he is undersized. I am pretty sure he was shorter than Brogdon and Oladipo.
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Post#1723 » by The Force. » Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:02 am

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The Force. wrote:A lot of guys are putting up numbers against scrubs but I do think Hali will be the type of player that makes a lot of GMs look bad. Ironic that he fell to Sacramento of all places.


How come our guy can’t put up numbers against the scrubs?



Not sure what you mean. P-Will put up 12 and 13 respectively, which is pretty much on-par with everyone else, aside from Okoro, who looks to be slightly ahead of everyone at the moment.
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Post#1724 » by ZOMG » Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:33 am

I have absolutely no idea why the Raps spent like a game and a half giving LaMelo the drive instead of the shot. It's like they didn't know who he was.

Man, he looks absolutely brutal trying to make those threes.
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Post#1725 » by MrFortune3 » Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:50 am

Darius Miles Davis wrote:Wow, that drive by Deni was REALLY fast. Agree Weeneeda, I'm also beginning to think this draft is better than advertised.


This draft was never weak or bad, people are just lazy as hell and wanted guaranteed studs like this was LeBron's draft year.
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Post#1726 » by fleet » Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:54 am

Deni was who I was thinking we would draft until the Williams clues were arriving. I liked him. He’s actually tailor made from this draft to be the player the Bulls needed given the current lineup. But obviously the current lineup could be totally different in 6 months to a year. Drafting for need would be dumb. Deni is not just a need pick however. But its a long career.

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Post#1727 » by kulaz3000 » Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:04 am

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Darius Miles Davis wrote:Wow, that drive by Deni was REALLY fast. Agree Weeneeda, I'm also beginning to think this draft is better than advertised.


This draft was never weak or bad, people are just lazy as hell and wanted guaranteed studs like this was LeBron's draft year.


From memory, and please correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think many claimed it was flat out bad draft class - but more so that the talent level was flat, meaning that though it lacked potential superstars (to which I still agree), and the talent across the board was relatively even, where you could potentially find the best players scattered up and down the draft board, which is how I personally saw the draft.
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Post#1728 » by Andi Obst » Tue Dec 15, 2020 10:16 am

The Wolves are going to be so bad, I really don't see how people have them making the playoffs. Their best players only play offense (where Russell is incredibly overrated IMO), they have like 3 proven NBA players, zero wing depth, will play Edwards a lot even though he's going to be a negative on both ends and we don't really know if KAT is even ready to focus on basketball right now.

Would surprise me to see them making the play-in even.
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Post#1729 » by cjbulls » Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:11 pm

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The Force. wrote:A lot of guys are putting up numbers against scrubs but I do think Hali will be the type of player that makes a lot of GMs look bad. Ironic that he fell to Sacramento of all places.


How come our guy can’t put up numbers against the scrubs?



Not sure what you mean. P-Will put up 12 and 13 respectively, which is pretty much on-par with everyone else, aside from Okoro, who looks to be slightly ahead of everyone at the moment.


Oh, you’re right. I didn’t even realize PW put up 13. He looked so bad I never would have figured it. That’s somewhat impressive in its own right.
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Post#1730 » by Chicago-Bull-E » Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:19 pm

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Post#1731 » by MrFortune3 » Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:14 pm

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Darius Miles Davis wrote:Wow, that drive by Deni was REALLY fast. Agree Weeneeda, I'm also beginning to think this draft is better than advertised.


This draft was never weak or bad, people are just lazy as hell and wanted guaranteed studs like this was LeBron's draft year.


From memory, and please correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think many claimed it was flat out bad draft class - but more so that the talent level was flat, meaning that though it lacked potential superstars (to which I still agree), and the talent across the board was relatively even, where you could potentially find the best players scattered up and down the draft board, which is how I personally saw the draft.


Most were claiming it was a bad draft, weak draft, no superstars to be found and some even went as far as to compare it to 2000.
It was always silly. The draft on a average(year by year basis) produces the same amount of talent in a strong or weak year.
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Post#1732 » by cjbulls » Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:34 pm

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kulaz3000 wrote:
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This draft was never weak or bad, people are just lazy as hell and wanted guaranteed studs like this was LeBron's draft year.


From memory, and please correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think many claimed it was flat out bad draft class - but more so that the talent level was flat, meaning that though it lacked potential superstars (to which I still agree), and the talent across the board was relatively even, where you could potentially find the best players scattered up and down the draft board, which is how I personally saw the draft.


Most were claiming it was a bad draft, weak draft, no superstars to be found and some even went as far as to compare it to 2000.
It was always silly. The draft on a average(year by year basis) produces the same amount of talent in a strong or weak year.


We will see, but the issue was every guy seemingly had some serious red flags. But for several of them, it was “shooting” which will end up being overstated.

As the league moves to more and more 3s and everyone works hard to get good at them, we will find there are far less bad shooters than their used to be. Guys are all just making it an emphasis of their development unlike 5+ years ago.
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Post#1733 » by RedBulls23 » Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:39 pm

fleet wrote:Deni was who I was thinking we would draft until the Williams clues were arriving. I liked him. He’s actually tailor made from this draft to be the player the Bulls needed given the current lineup. But obviously the current lineup could be totally different in 6 months to a year. Drafting for need would be dumb. Deni is not just a need pick however. But its a long career.


Man if that shot falls, he'll be a steal for the Wiz.

Wizards might be a fun team this year in the regular season at least. They have a competitive roster with a couple of stars and interesting young players like Deni and Rui.
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Post#1734 » by RedBulls23 » Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:41 pm

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MrFortune3 wrote:
Darius Miles Davis wrote:Wow, that drive by Deni was REALLY fast. Agree Weeneeda, I'm also beginning to think this draft is better than advertised.


This draft was never weak or bad, people are just lazy as hell and wanted guaranteed studs like this was LeBron's draft year.


From memory, and please correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think many claimed it was flat out bad draft class - but more so that the talent level was flat, meaning that though it lacked potential superstars (to which I still agree), and the talent across the board was relatively even, where you could potentially find the best players scattered up and down the draft board, which is how I personally saw the draft.

Yeah talking to most draft people they said it was a draft that you could find talent in, but it didn't have top end talent on paper. A lot of players with question marks that could still maybe become good solid contributors, but no Luka, Zions, Morants etc.
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Post#1735 » by MrFortune3 » Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:08 pm

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kulaz3000 wrote:
From memory, and please correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think many claimed it was flat out bad draft class - but more so that the talent level was flat, meaning that though it lacked potential superstars (to which I still agree), and the talent across the board was relatively even, where you could potentially find the best players scattered up and down the draft board, which is how I personally saw the draft.


Most were claiming it was a bad draft, weak draft, no superstars to be found and some even went as far as to compare it to 2000.
It was always silly. The draft on a average(year by year basis) produces the same amount of talent in a strong or weak year.


We will see, but the issue was every guy seemingly had some serious red flags. But for several of them, it was “shooting” which will end up being overstated.

As the league moves to more and more 3s and everyone works hard to get good at them, we will find there are far less bad shooters than their used to be. Guys are all just making it an emphasis of their development unlike 5+ years ago.


The players are moving towards the trend of the league. If you cannot shoot and space the floor then your role tends to be a bit more limited. So their focus in development lies in that heavily.

People also tend to forget that these guys are only 19-20 years old coming out and they're asked to play certain roles in college systems that are not fully indicative of their abilities. The developmental curve of these players is a lot different than even 5 years ago.
Players are rawer and rawer while adjusting to different roles.
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Post#1736 » by MrFortune3 » Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:10 pm

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fleet wrote:Deni was who I was thinking we would draft until the Williams clues were arriving. I liked him. He’s actually tailor made from this draft to be the player the Bulls needed given the current lineup. But obviously the current lineup could be totally different in 6 months to a year. Drafting for need would be dumb. Deni is not just a need pick however. But its a long career.


Man if that shot falls, he'll be a steal for the Wiz.

Wizards might be a fun team this year in the regular season at least. They have a competitive roster with a couple of stars and interesting young players like Deni and Rui.


The Wizards have a very intriguing set up. They have been drafting well over the past 2 years and if they can get Beal to mesh with those guys(I have no idea what Russ will do) they could be an exciting team to watch.
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Post#1737 » by dougthonus » Tue Dec 15, 2020 5:55 pm

The Force. wrote:Not sure what you mean. P-Will put up 12 and 13 respectively, which is pretty much on-par with everyone else, aside from Okoro, who looks to be slightly ahead of everyone at the moment.


Not really shooting efficiently from the field though, and a bunch of his points were against the Rockets scrubbiest scrubs in the 2nd game where he was 1/8 before going up against their G Leaguers in the 4th quarter. Not that preseason stats are so important, but nothing exciting about his preseason offensive numbers to date.
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Post#1738 » by Darius Miles Davis » Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:24 pm

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Post#1739 » by ImSlower » Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:34 pm

As much as it may have been fun to see Luca and Giannis paired, I'm happy he stayed. I hope they get through the East. Milwaukee did all the right things trying to keep him, and he responded in kind. Well, they probably overpaid for Jrue, but that's the price of keeping a superstar in a comparatively unappealing market.
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Post#1740 » by AshyLarrysDiaper » Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:35 pm

There are gonna be a bunch cap-rich teams in 2021 and no FAs to spend on.

To me, this just clarifies that we can't keep an unextended Lauri past the deadline. Extend him for a (very) modest price tag now, or trade him for whatever we can get at the deadline. Next summer, the negotiating conditions will be terrible.
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