coldfish wrote:Sonny_D1 wrote:coldfish wrote:
People keep bringing it up but then refusing to look at what happens to the team. When you dump Taj for capspace, you no longer put a team on the court that can compete for a title in year 1. Its not that Taj is that good, its that a team with no PF better than vet min is that bad.
Come on Fish, you're putting way too much stock into one player. PF is not the difference between competing and being that bad. OKC doesn't have a SF or SG. Miami has no PG or C. The list goes on and on. SA is obviously the exception because they play great team ball and have the right mix if complimentary players.
Like I said, their best shot was to sell Rose/Melo/Noah. And that's it.
I think that's a losing pitch. Rose's injury status really hurts him as an attractive guy to play with on the court and he has done chicago no favors off the court.
Chicago's best pitch was a win now team. Rose / Melo / Noah + scrubs is not it.
OKC has a SF. They have a weak SG and C and haven't won because of it. Even then, they do have some depth though which is a step above what Chicago would have.
Again, this is not about Taj. Its what the whole roster looks like in the capspace scenario. Its not pretty.
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For the people who keep bringing up Gasol. That's part of a sign and trade. You can't land Gasol with the capspace scenario without someone taking a huge paycut.
Again, sign and trade = good. Capspace = bad.
And again, Fish, it's not the only pitch you make, it's the options you provide. Here's what I think the team looks like. To do this, you have to clear Taj, Dunleavy, Snell, Randolph, and the non-guaranteed guys. It's predicated on signing a back up point guard at the level of Hinrich to the remaining cap room (1,453 mil first year, maybe a two year deal) and then Glen Davis or a player of his ilk to a room exception contract.
Carmelo Anthony $22,458,401
Derrick Rose $18,862,870
Joakim Noah $12,700,000
Glen Davis $2,732,000
Jimmy Butler $2,008,748
Doug McDermott $1,898,300
Kirk Hinrich $1,453,000
Greg Smith $948,163
Minimum contract guys
The drag in this deal is that you can't bring Mirotic over in this scenario unless he's willing to come for the room exception, which is not ideal for him because he's worth more, and at a maximum of a two year deal, it's not enough years to get his full Bird rights.
I think the above team is way better than the Knicks or the Lakers. Again, it is an option that I believe you should provide to Melo.
"Uh...we've always like ET. ET has big hands. His mother has big hands."
Exactly. Chances are it's not even related to the Melo stuff, but Booz' realized people might think it is so he pulled it down.
