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Shams Charania
@ShamsCharania
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Breaking: Giannis Antetokounmpo says he is signing a contract extension with the Milwaukee Bucks. The two-time MVP will sign a five-year, $228.2 million supermax extension with the franchise, the largest deal in NBA history, sources tell
@TheAthleticNBA

The domino has fallen.

Rudy Gobert come on down

[DJhitek]

Good for Giannis and Milwaukee. Milwaukee will have to resign Holiday to keep it together for the next couple years since they are out of picks. Now it’s on Giannis to take another step as an offensive player to carry that team.

[Hangtime84]

Bradley Beal

[AshyLarrysDiaper]

Shams Charania
@ShamsCharania
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Breaking: Giannis Antetokounmpo says he is signing a contract extension with the Milwaukee Bucks. The two-time MVP will sign a five-year, $228.2 million supermax extension with the franchise, the largest deal in NBA history, sources tell
@TheAthleticNBA

The domino has fallen.

Rudy Gobert come on down

Yeah. I mean who else is there, honestly.

[Pax for Prez]

The domino has fallen.

Rudy Gobert come on down

Yeah. I mean who else is there, honestly.

Below is my running list of players to keep an eye on:

2021 Free Agents and their age next offseason
C R. Gobert - 29
wing K. Oubre - 26
wing V. Oladipo - 29
wing E. Fourner - 29
PG D. Schruder - 28
C H. Giles - 24 (does he take a step forward this year?)

PO - Free Agents
PG S. Dinwiddie - 28
PG J. Holiday - 31

Older Free Agents
wing D. DeRozan -32
PG K. Lowry - 35
PG D. Rose - 33
PG L. Williams - 35
PG M. Conley - 34
C L. Aldridge - 36
C A. Drummond - 28 (not sure about fit)

REST. Free Agents
PG L. Ball
PG D. Graham
PG K. Dunn
PG D. White
SF OG Anunoby
PF J. Collins
PF K. Kuzma
C J. Allen

[SalmonsSuperfan]

Rudy Gobert come on down

Yeah. I mean who else is there, honestly.

Below is my running list of players to keep an eye on:

2021 Free Agents and their age next offseason
C R. Gobert - 29
wing K. Oubre - 26
wing V. Oladipo - 29
wing E. Fourner - 29
PG D. Schruder - 28
C H. Giles - 24 (does he take a step forward this year?)

PO - Free Agents
PG S. Dinwiddie - 28
PG J. Holiday - 31

Older Free Agents
wing D. DeRozan -32
PG K. Lowry - 35
PG D. Rose - 33
PG L. Williams - 35
PG M. Conley - 34
C L. Aldridge - 36
C A. Drummond - 28 (not sure about fit)

REST. Free Agents
PG L. Ball
PG D. Graham
PG K. Dunn
PG D. White
SF OG Anunoby
PF J. Collins
PF K. Kuzma
C J. Allen

anyone else surprised evan fournier is only 28? feel like this guy has been in the nba my entire life

[fleet]

There are gonna be a bunch cap-rich teams in 2021 and no FAs to spend on.

To me, this just clarifies that we can't keep an unextended Lauri past the deadline. Extend him for a (very) modest price tag now, or trade him for whatever we can get at the deadline. Next summer, the negotiating conditions will be terrible.

AK might have a positive opinion on Lauri, so he could do what you have suggested. But if he is agnostic on Lauri so far, he should hold off imo. I for one don’t think Lauri has yet earned another deal let alone thinking about for how much. Concern of less than optimal outcome on the salary front is warranted, but he has to prove something just to be able to get an extension. Unless it’s a very short extension. Maybe the league-wide scenario exists that you described, and it is a catch 22 of sorts. But all cheaper deals are not good contracts that are trade chips. Someone will roll the dice on Lauri, but it doesn’t have to be the Bulls necessarily. Not yet.

[MGB8]

I think what this may signal is that effective use of cap room would need to be via trade.

To do that, what you need to do is flip assets that might otherwise be walking away and/or demanding too much money (and thus not being assets anymore) for other assets.

In short, I think AK should strongly consider "churning" any and all of our players, minus maybe Pat Williams since he is so new, for the right offers. That said, the "right offer" is key in that calculation. You don't trade for pennies on the dollar, where the gain vs. "the player walks" alternative isn't significant.

[PrimzyBulls81]

Choices in 2021 FA in the end will be pretty damn poor... Nothing to raise us over the hump

[AshyLarrysDiaper]

There are gonna be a bunch cap-rich teams in 2021 and no FAs to spend on.

To me, this just clarifies that we can't keep an unextended Lauri past the deadline. Extend him for a (very) modest price tag now, or trade him for whatever we can get at the deadline. Next summer, the negotiating conditions will be terrible.

AK might have a positive opinion on Lauri, so he could do what you have suggested. But if he is agnostic on Lauri so far, he should hold off imo. I for one don’t think Lauri has yet earned another deal let alone thinking about for how much. Concern of less than optimal outcome on the salary front is warranted, but he has to prove something just to be able to get an extension. Unless it’s a very short extension. Maybe the league-wide scenario exists that you described, and it is a catch 22 of sorts. But all cheaper deals are not good contracts that are trade chips. Someone will roll the dice on Lauri, but it doesn’t have to be the Bulls necessarily. Not yet.

I mean there probably isnt a deal that’s low enough for my comfort level that Lauri would consider taking, so I mostly agree with you. My main point is that the “negotiate next summer” option needs to be taken off the table entirely.

If there isn’t a path to an extension, and there almost certainly isn’t, just resolve to trade him. No hemming and hawing about value. Let the market speak.

[Southpaw]

I wanted us to sign Giannis but I'm happy he's staying in Milwaukee. They prove that they were willing to spend to keep Giannis and rewarded him with an extension. I always thought foreign born players are more likely to stay with the team that drafted them because they're not part of the AAU culture and they might feel more loyalty to the team that took a chance on them.

I wonder if this changes AK's plan going forward, if at all.

[fleet]

There are gonna be a bunch cap-rich teams in 2021 and no FAs to spend on.

To me, this just clarifies that we can't keep an unextended Lauri past the deadline. Extend him for a (very) modest price tag now, or trade him for whatever we can get at the deadline. Next summer, the negotiating conditions will be terrible.

AK might have a positive opinion on Lauri, so he could do what you have suggested. But if he is agnostic on Lauri so far, he should hold off imo. I for one don’t think Lauri has yet earned another deal let alone thinking about for how much. Concern of less than optimal outcome on the salary front is warranted, but he has to prove something just to be able to get an extension. Unless it’s a very short extension. Maybe the league-wide scenario exists that you described, and it is a catch 22 of sorts. But all cheaper deals are not good contracts that are trade chips. Someone will roll the dice on Lauri, but it doesn’t have to be the Bulls necessarily. Not yet.

I mean there probably isnt a deal that’s low enough for my comfort level that Lauri would consider taking, so I mostly agree with you. My main point is that the “negotiate next summer” option needs to be taken off the table entirely.

If there isn’t a path to an extension, and there almost certainly isn’t, just resolve to trade him. No hemming and hawing about value. Let the market speak.

The Bulls are a little screwed. Another team would not only be trading for a flawed player, but for the unfortunate cap scenario described

[ZOMG]

There are gonna be a bunch cap-rich teams in 2021 and no FAs to spend on.

To me, this just clarifies that we can't keep an unextended Lauri past the deadline. Extend him for a (very) modest price tag now, or trade him for whatever we can get at the deadline. Next summer, the negotiating conditions will be terrible.

AK might have a positive opinion on Lauri, so he could do what you have suggested. But if he is agnostic on Lauri so far, he should hold off imo. I for one don’t think Lauri has yet earned another deal let alone thinking about for how much. Concern of less than optimal outcome on the salary front is warranted, but he has to prove something just to be able to get an extension. Unless it’s a very short extension. Maybe the league-wide scenario exists that you described, and it is a catch 22 of sorts. But all cheaper deals are not good contracts that are trade chips. Someone will roll the dice on Lauri, but it doesn’t have to be the Bulls necessarily. Not yet.

I mean there probably isnt a deal that’s low enough for my comfort level that Lauri would consider taking, so I mostly agree with you. My main point is that the “negotiate next summer” option needs to be taken off the table entirely.

If there isn’t a path to an extension, and there almost certainly isn’t, just resolve to trade him. No hemming and hawing about value. Let the market speak.

You know just as well as I do that nothing like this will take place.

The Bulls will extend Lauri at something like 15 mil per year, 90% of this board will think he's horribly overpaid, and then we will all just move on. Markkanen spends the rest of his career standing on the perimeter and having more and more kids. One day, he finally has more than Shawn Kemp and can retire.

The end.

[coldfish]

Man the pels are fun to watch.

[AshyLarrysDiaper]

AK might have a positive opinion on Lauri, so he could do what you have suggested. But if he is agnostic on Lauri so far, he should hold off imo. I for one don’t think Lauri has yet earned another deal let alone thinking about for how much. Concern of less than optimal outcome on the salary front is warranted, but he has to prove something just to be able to get an extension. Unless it’s a very short extension. Maybe the league-wide scenario exists that you described, and it is a catch 22 of sorts. But all cheaper deals are not good contracts that are trade chips. Someone will roll the dice on Lauri, but it doesn’t have to be the Bulls necessarily. Not yet.

I mean there probably isnt a deal that’s low enough for my comfort level that Lauri would consider taking, so I mostly agree with you. My main point is that the “negotiate next summer” option needs to be taken off the table entirely.

If there isn’t a path to an extension, and there almost certainly isn’t, just resolve to trade him. No hemming and hawing about value. Let the market speak.

You know just as well as I do that nothing like this will take place.

The Bulls will extend Lauri at something like 15 mil per year, 90% of this board will think he's horribly overpaid, and then we will all just move on. Markkanen spends the rest of his career standing on the perimeter and having more and more kids. One day, he finally has more than Shawn Kemp and can retire.

The end.

Huh. This took a turn.

[ZOMG]

I mean there probably isnt a deal that’s low enough for my comfort level that Lauri would consider taking, so I mostly agree with you. My main point is that the “negotiate next summer” option needs to be taken off the table entirely.

If there isn’t a path to an extension, and there almost certainly isn’t, just resolve to trade him. No hemming and hawing about value. Let the market speak.

You know just as well as I do that nothing like this will take place.

The Bulls will extend Lauri at something like 15 mil per year, 90% of this board will think he's horribly overpaid, and then we will all just move on. Markkanen spends the rest of his career standing on the perimeter and having more and more kids. One day, he finally has more than Shawn Kemp and can retire.

The end.

Huh. This took a turn.

What can I say? I see the plays before they develop.

[Mbrahv0528]

How come our guy can’t put up numbers against the scrubs?

Not sure what you mean. P-Will put up 12 and 13 respectively, which is pretty much on-par with everyone else, aside from Okoro, who looks to be slightly ahead of everyone at the moment.

Oh, you’re right. I didn’t even realize PW put up 13. He looked so bad I never would have figured it. That’s somewhat impressive in its own right.

He didn't look bad, your basketball analysis is what's off. Good grief. Consistently have these blanket hot takes, one would think that one would evolve at some point.

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[AshyLarrysDiaper]

AK might have a positive opinion on Lauri, so he could do what you have suggested. But if he is agnostic on Lauri so far, he should hold off imo. I for one don’t think Lauri has yet earned another deal let alone thinking about for how much. Concern of less than optimal outcome on the salary front is warranted, but he has to prove something just to be able to get an extension. Unless it’s a very short extension. Maybe the league-wide scenario exists that you described, and it is a catch 22 of sorts. But all cheaper deals are not good contracts that are trade chips. Someone will roll the dice on Lauri, but it doesn’t have to be the Bulls necessarily. Not yet.

I mean there probably isnt a deal that’s low enough for my comfort level that Lauri would consider taking, so I mostly agree with you. My main point is that the “negotiate next summer” option needs to be taken off the table entirely.

If there isn’t a path to an extension, and there almost certainly isn’t, just resolve to trade him. No hemming and hawing about value. Let the market speak.

The Bulls are a little screwed. Another team would not only be trading for a flawed player, but for the unfortunate cap scenario described

They’d be hoping another team a) thinks they’re smarter than the Bulls about Lauri’s development path, and/or b) needs shooting help immediately.

I’m not convinced that team’s out there, but the Bulls can’t afford to be confused about the mission.

[kodo]

...

The Bulls will extend Lauri at something like 15 mil per year, 90% of this board will think he's horribly overpaid, and then we will all just move on. Markkanen spends the rest of his career standing on the perimeter and having more and more kids. One day, he finally has more than Shawn Kemp and can retire.

The end.

$15M is probably very likely from Chicago or someone.

Miami is a great organization. They pay Meyers Leonard $10M to come off the bench and average 1 three pointer per game. He's stiffer than Lauri on defense and offense.

NBA players off the rookie scale simply get a lot of money if they are in an 8 man rotation, even the least impactful ones. That's just the reality of a 90% min salary and a lack of stars in free agency to spend money on.

[troza]

With the Giannis extension we are sure now that probably we will see the Lakers at the top for a while... and that the Bulls so far are doing the correct thing: see the value of what they have, turn them into a good team or assets... but it seems we will have to bet on draft for a while.