OT: COVID-19 thread #2

[musiqsoulchild]

It's a real bummer that being overtly racist isn't a deal-breaker for some.

It’s not even that it’s not a deal breaker. It’s that for many, it’s the magnetic trait.

When you put it like that....its sad and frustrating.

[GetBuLLish]

As the NASCAR hoax is further evidence of, the demand for racism in this country vastly, vastly, vastly outstrips the actual supply of racism.

Just to clarify here for those who aren't up to date on this, it was determined by the FBI no hate crime happened here.

https://tv5.espn.com/racing/nascar/story/_/id/29354447/fbi-says-rope-had-talladega-garage-last-fall-bubba-wallace-not-victim-hate-crime

Correct.

It should have taken no more than 30 minutes to figure out that the rope was a garage pull and not a noose. But people are so determined to see racism where it doesn't exist that immediately everyone was told to believe that this was a hate crime.

Last night Bubba Wallace went on CNN and still proclaimed that it was a noose. He clearly wants it to be a noose. And honestly I can't blame him. Our culture bestows so much praise, fame, and love on supposed hate crime victims that there's a strong temptation to become one. Wallace got a strong taste of the victimhood, immediately becoming a national celebrity and going on a nationwide media tour. And he doesn't want that taken away.

Look at the San Francisco "noose" story. This stuff has become ridiculous. Like I said, it's because the demand for racism has massively outstripped the supply of it.

[Ccwatercraft]

As the NASCAR hoax is further evidence of, the demand for racism in this country vastly, vastly, vastly outstrips the actual supply of racism.

Just to clarify here for those who aren't up to date on this, it was determined by the FBI no hate crime happened here.

https://tv5.espn.com/racing/nascar/story/_/id/29354447/fbi-says-rope-had-talladega-garage-last-fall-bubba-wallace-not-victim-hate-crime

Correct.

It should have taken no more than 30 minutes to figure out that the rope was a garage pull and not a noose. But people are so determined to see racism where it doesn't exist that immediately everyone was told to believe that this was a hate crime.

Last night Bubba Wallace went on CNN and still proclaimed that it was a noose. He clearly wants it to be a noose. And honestly I can't blame him. Our culture bestows so much praise, fame, and love on supposed hate crime victims that there's a strong temptation to become one. Wallace got a strong taste of the victimhood, immediately becoming a national celebrity and going on a nationwide media tour. And he doesn't want that taken away.

Look at the San Francisco "noose" story. This stuff has become ridiculous. Like I said, it's because the demand for racism has massively outstripped the supply of it.

9 out of the first 10 people made aware of this likely knew it was a huge mistake, but there is no way in hell they were going to put their job on the line by pointing out that it was even a slight possibility.
Then they went home to talk to their spouse.

"holy crap, nascar is all over the news, whats the story on the noose?"
"(unplugs alexa) "don't repeat this to anyone, but it was just a piece of string"
"seriously? what did you say?"
"nothing, absolutely nothing, Its a bad time to be unemployed"
"so what did you do"
"I did what I was told, and called the FBI"

[MGB8]

states seeing severe spikes in new cases over the past week or so: TX, FL, AZ, SC, GA, OK, NV, OR, ID, MT, WY, WV, HA
states pretty steadily climbing over a longer period: CA, NC, TN, AL, WA, MO, UT, AK

nationwide case counts have been on upward trend again for over a week. so much for the summer dissipation. can't have a 2nd wave when the first never ended

trump having a rally in AZ tonight, where ICUs are at 83% of capacity. keeping hospitals below capacity is a bare minimum standard as we respond to this crisis

and the EU is strongly considering blocking americans from entering

just embarrassing

Eh... be careful with repeating those assertions without looking at the quality of the source data. A lot of the data suggesting that there is a spike is, effectively, garbage. For example, the biggest spike appears to be from Florida (and specifically in the least open areas near Miami)... but you go to https://covidtracking.com/data and look at the disclaimer for Florida (with emphasis added):

We report using the raw data provided by FDOH but we include both Florida residents and non-residents. On March 26, the dashboard stopped including non-residents in its visible counts, but they're still tracked behind the scenes.
On March 21, negatives jumped due to a methodology change: tests of people not investigated as PUIs are now included. As of May 15, Florida is reporting both specimens (PCR and antibody) and people tested. We report positives and negatives based on the number of people tested. However, the "people tested" number reported on Florida's dashboard has come into question as of May 31, because this number is not fully de-duplicated. Florida's report states that: "People tested on multiple days will be included for each day a new result was received."

Meaning that it appears that everyone who is retested (which happens when you go to the hospital at least every couple of days, and also happens as soon as you test positive once, even if not hospitalized) and gets a second, third, fourth, fifth positive test comes back as 2, 3, 4, 5 "new cases."

If you look at the disclaimers of all the states, you see hints of similar problems across the board - to include partial de-duplication correction notes (but no explanation of how that happened or whether it is being avoided), etc.

Mind you, these are the exact numbers being reported (without the huge disclaimers) in the media to claim "spikes."
The better data to look at is current (not cumulative) hospitalization numbers (where you can find them) and see if you can find a trend (it isn't in their historical data charts, but can sometimes tease it out from other data sources).

[moorhosj]

Eh... be careful with repeating those assertions without looking at the quality of the source data. A lot of the data suggesting that there is a spike is, effectively, garbage. For example, the biggest spike appears to be from Florida (and specifically in the least open areas near Miami)... but you go to https://covidtracking.com/data and look at the disclaimer for Florida (with emphasis added)

Meaning that it appears that everyone who is retested (which happens when you go to the hospital at least every couple of days, and also happens as soon as you test positive once, even if not hospitalized) and gets a second, third, fourth, fifth positive test comes back as 2, 3, 4, 5 "new cases."

If you look at the disclaimers of all the states, you see hints of similar problems across the board - to include partial de-duplication correction notes (but no explanation of how that happened or whether it is being avoided), etc.

Mind you, these are the exact numbers being reported (without the huge disclaimers) in the media to claim "spikes."
The better data to look at is current (not cumulative) hospitalization numbers (where you can find them) and see if you can find a trend (it isn't in their historical data charts, but can sometimes tease it out from other data sources).

Maybe it's a grand conspiracy or maybe there is a spike. The Governor of Florida says there is a spike:

Gov. Ron DeSantis acknowledged on Saturday that the rising number of new Covid-19 cases in Florida cannot be explained away by an increase in testing, and announced plans to step up enforcement of social distancing practices in bars and nightclubs.

“Even with the testing increasing or being flat, the number of people testing positive is accelerating faster than that,” DeSantis told reporters during a briefing at the state Capitol. “You know that's evidence that there's transmission within those communities.”

https://www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2020/06/20/desantis-pivots-on-covid-19-surge-says-testing-doesnt-account-for-spike-1293901

[musiqsoulchild]

Just to clarify here for those who aren't up to date on this, it was determined by the FBI no hate crime happened here.

https://tv5.espn.com/racing/nascar/story/_/id/29354447/fbi-says-rope-had-talladega-garage-last-fall-bubba-wallace-not-victim-hate-crime

Correct.

It should have taken no more than 30 minutes to figure out that the rope was a garage pull and not a noose. But people are so determined to see racism where it doesn't exist that immediately everyone was told to believe that this was a hate crime.

Last night Bubba Wallace went on CNN and still proclaimed that it was a noose. He clearly wants it to be a noose. And honestly I can't blame him. Our culture bestows so much praise, fame, and love on supposed hate crime victims that there's a strong temptation to become one. Wallace got a strong taste of the victimhood, immediately becoming a national celebrity and going on a nationwide media tour. And he doesn't want that taken away.

Look at the San Francisco "noose" story. This stuff has become ridiculous. Like I said, it's because the demand for racism has massively outstripped the supply of it.

9 out of the first 10 people made aware of this likely knew it was a huge mistake, but there is no way in hell they were going to put their job on the line by pointing out that it was even a slight possibility.
Then they went home to talk to their spouse.

"holy crap, nascar is all over the news, whats the story on the noose?"
"(unplugs alexa) "don't repeat this to anyone, but it was just a piece of string"
"seriously? what did you say?"
"nothing, absolutely nothing, Its a bad time to be unemployed"
"so what did you do"
"I did what I was told, and called the FBI"

That's how it should be.

Everytime.

If you see something that might be racist, we need to escalate it at the appropriate level.

Bubba didnt make this up. Nascar didnt.

[TheStig]

Even if Biden is in mental decline, he's still 10x better than Trump. Listen to Trump try to put together a sentence- he has trouble doing it. he is constantly mispronouncing words and getting facts wrong.

I honestly believe if Hillary were president, we'd have seen far fewer American deaths from COVID. Right now, we are 5% of the population, and have 24% of the world's COVID deaths. That's outrageous, for a country that is supposed to have the best medical system in the world.

Hillary could not beat Obama. Like Trump, Hillary should be in prison. So she, imo, was never a viable option. Trump is an idiot but Biden is not the answer either. I don't have the answer but apparently neither do the Hypocrats or the Bloodicans.

I love how the discussion on presidents has seemed to move. It used to be their values, ideas and plan. Now we just talk about who we dislike less and how one will do more damage than the other. What happened to actually picking a president based on liking them and having confidence they could lead the country? No I have to pick between two bumbling idiots, both corrupt, both corporate candidates and not much difference. It's like trying to pick between brussel sprouts and brocolli.

[HomoSapien]

It's a real bummer that being overtly racist isn't a deal-breaker for some.

No need to blame anyone here. It's the democratic party who decided to push for Biden who has a long history of problems himself.

Racism wasn't a dealbreaker for many 3 and 1/2 years ago either. Biden is a problematic candidate, but there's no contest between who's worse. It's not even a question.

[musiqsoulchild]

Let's not forget in the whole BLM movement that Trump is OPENLY disparaging all Asiatic countries.

Kung Flu...not funny. Definitely RACIST.

He needs China as a foil to place the blame on. He doesn't have to be racist about it.

But that's the drum that he likes the most. He wants to make it about Us Vs. Them.

[musiqsoulchild]

Even if Biden is in mental decline, he's still 10x better than Trump. Listen to Trump try to put together a sentence- he has trouble doing it. he is constantly mispronouncing words and getting facts wrong.

I honestly believe if Hillary were president, we'd have seen far fewer American deaths from COVID. Right now, we are 5% of the population, and have 24% of the world's COVID deaths. That's outrageous, for a country that is supposed to have the best medical system in the world.

Hillary could not beat Obama. Like Trump, Hillary should be in prison. So she, imo, was never a viable option. Trump is an idiot but Biden is not the answer either. I don't have the answer but apparently neither do the Hypocrats or the Bloodicans.

I love how the discussion on presidents has seemed to move. It used to be their values, ideas and plan. Now we just talk about who we dislike less and how one will do more damage than the other. What happened to actually picking a president based on liking them and having confidence they could lead the country? No I have to pick between two bumbling idiots, both corrupt, both corporate candidates and not much difference. It's like trying to pick between brussel sprouts and brocolli.

Its life.

The idea that Presidential candidates are some Disneyland characters is a myth.

Our politicians represent all our flaws. That's just statistically accurate.

It would be WEIRD if politicians are somehow any different from a moral standpoint than the average American.

That's why we should throw out the morality test.

And focus on the policy test and the performance test.

[HomoSapien]

As the NASCAR hoax is further evidence of, the demand for racism in this country vastly, vastly, vastly outstrips the actual supply of racism.

Just to clarify here for those who aren't up to date on this, it was determined by the FBI no hate crime happened here.

https://tv5.espn.com/racing/nascar/story/_/id/29354447/fbi-says-rope-had-talladega-garage-last-fall-bubba-wallace-not-victim-hate-crime

Correct.

It should have taken no more than 30 minutes to figure out that the rope was a garage pull and not a noose. But people are so determined to see racism where it doesn't exist that immediately everyone was told to believe that this was a hate crime.

Last night Bubba Wallace went on CNN and still proclaimed that it was a noose. He clearly wants it to be a noose. And honestly I can't blame him. Our culture bestows so much praise, fame, and love on supposed hate crime victims that there's a strong temptation to become one. Wallace got a strong taste of the victimhood, immediately becoming a national celebrity and going on a nationwide media tour. And he doesn't want that taken away.

Look at the San Francisco "noose" story. This stuff has become ridiculous. Like I said, it's because the demand for racism has massively outstripped the supply of it.

In the wake of the deaths of George Floyd, Breonna Taylor, and Ahmaud Arbery I find your post to be incredibly stupid. People see racism because it's so prevalent. A possible misunderstanding doesn't change that. And as someone who has dealt with his fair share of racism, I find it very difficult to believe that a sizable group of people would want to seek it out for five minutes of fame. Seriously, such an embarrassing post.

[TheStig]

It's a real bummer that being overtly racist isn't a deal-breaker for some.

No need to blame anyone here. It's the democratic party who decided to push for Biden who has a long history of problems himself.

Racism wasn't a dealbreaker for many 3 and 1/2 years ago either. Biden is a problematic candidate, but there's no contest between who's worse. It's not even a question.

Again, I don't like either and don't fall into either camp.

But there are a lot of people on the right who like smaller gov, less taxes and a more religious mindset. They strictly fall into the Trump camp as they do with most republicans. Biden doesn't represent those things. The problem is, that most on these boards are younger, not as religious and are more liberal with enviromental concerns.

[TheStig]

Hillary could not beat Obama. Like Trump, Hillary should be in prison. So she, imo, was never a viable option. Trump is an idiot but Biden is not the answer either. I don't have the answer but apparently neither do the Hypocrats or the Bloodicans.

I love how the discussion on presidents has seemed to move. It used to be their values, ideas and plan. Now we just talk about who we dislike less and how one will do more damage than the other. What happened to actually picking a president based on liking them and having confidence they could lead the country? No I have to pick between two bumbling idiots, both corrupt, both corporate candidates and not much difference. It's like trying to pick between brussel sprouts and brocolli.

Its life.

The idea that Presidential candidates are some Disneyland characters is a myth.

Our politicians represent all our flaws. That's just statistically accurate.

It would be WEIRD if politicians are somehow any different from a moral standpoint than the average American.

That's why we should throw out the morality test.

And focus on the policy test and the performance test.

I've always held the president to a higher standard than the average person.

[Chi town]

It's a real bummer that being overtly racist isn't a deal-breaker for some.

No need to blame anyone here. It's the democratic party who decided to push for Biden who has a long history of problems himself.

Racism wasn't a dealbreaker for many 3 and 1/2 years ago either. Biden is a problematic candidate, but there's no contest between who's worse. It's not even a question.

With more and more white people learning and understanding systemic racism and how it has and does play out in our country combined with Trump's consistent insensitivity, brashness, and pandering to his far right crowd...

This election could be the first heavily influenced by race. I dont' think Biden is smart enough to do that though. He will pick a black female IMO but he will fumble how to truly communicate a clear plan to help POC that have been oppressed by our systems and structures.

I have such little hope in our country's govt leadership moving forward.

[Chi town]

Just to clarify here for those who aren't up to date on this, it was determined by the FBI no hate crime happened here.

https://tv5.espn.com/racing/nascar/story/_/id/29354447/fbi-says-rope-had-talladega-garage-last-fall-bubba-wallace-not-victim-hate-crime

Correct.

It should have taken no more than 30 minutes to figure out that the rope was a garage pull and not a noose. But people are so determined to see racism where it doesn't exist that immediately everyone was told to believe that this was a hate crime.

Last night Bubba Wallace went on CNN and still proclaimed that it was a noose. He clearly wants it to be a noose. And honestly I can't blame him. Our culture bestows so much praise, fame, and love on supposed hate crime victims that there's a strong temptation to become one. Wallace got a strong taste of the victimhood, immediately becoming a national celebrity and going on a nationwide media tour. And he doesn't want that taken away.

Look at the San Francisco "noose" story. This stuff has become ridiculous. Like I said, it's because the demand for racism has massively outstripped the supply of it.

In the wake of the deaths of George Floyd, Breonna Taylor, and Ahmaud Arbery I find your post to be incredibly stupid. People see racism because it's so prevalent. A possible misunderstanding doesn't change that. And as someone who has dealt with his fair share of racism, I find it very difficult to believe that a sizable group of people would want to seek it out for five minutes of fame. Seriously, such an embarrassing post.

Some people refuse to see it. This post above is typical gaslighting. No seeking to understand. No empathy or consideration for generational and current trauma and how it plays out. In light of everything we have learned recently about the FBI... I dont' know how anyone can trust their report either.

We have to continue to learn, listen, and talk about racial injustice. We must continue to fight for equality for all.

[Ccwatercraft]

Correct.

It should have taken no more than 30 minutes to figure out that the rope was a garage pull and not a noose. But people are so determined to see racism where it doesn't exist that immediately everyone was told to believe that this was a hate crime.

Last night Bubba Wallace went on CNN and still proclaimed that it was a noose. He clearly wants it to be a noose. And honestly I can't blame him. Our culture bestows so much praise, fame, and love on supposed hate crime victims that there's a strong temptation to become one. Wallace got a strong taste of the victimhood, immediately becoming a national celebrity and going on a nationwide media tour. And he doesn't want that taken away.

Look at the San Francisco "noose" story. This stuff has become ridiculous. Like I said, it's because the demand for racism has massively outstripped the supply of it.

9 out of the first 10 people made aware of this likely knew it was a huge mistake, but there is no way in hell they were going to put their job on the line by pointing out that it was even a slight possibility.
Then they went home to talk to their spouse.

"holy crap, nascar is all over the news, whats the story on the noose?"
"(unplugs alexa) "don't repeat this to anyone, but it was just a piece of string"
"seriously? what did you say?"
"nothing, absolutely nothing, Its a bad time to be unemployed"
"so what did you do"
"I did what I was told, and called the FBI"

That's how it should be.

Everytime.

If you see something that might be racist, we need to escalate it at the appropriate level.

Bubba didnt make this up. Nascar didnt.

Considering the industry I work with, dock lines (nooses) are literally everywhere.



Do you have the hotline for the FBI? I need to report about 35 years worth of Racism pronto.
This is a ballpark figure but we're talking at least 30,000 instances, at one marina.
That's how it should be, Everytime?

[MGB8]

Eh... be careful with repeating those assertions without looking at the quality of the source data. A lot of the data suggesting that there is a spike is, effectively, garbage. For example, the biggest spike appears to be from Florida (and specifically in the least open areas near Miami)... but you go to https://covidtracking.com/data and look at the disclaimer for Florida (with emphasis added)

Meaning that it appears that everyone who is retested (which happens when you go to the hospital at least every couple of days, and also happens as soon as you test positive once, even if not hospitalized) and gets a second, third, fourth, fifth positive test comes back as 2, 3, 4, 5 "new cases."

If you look at the disclaimers of all the states, you see hints of similar problems across the board - to include partial de-duplication correction notes (but no explanation of how that happened or whether it is being avoided), etc.

Mind you, these are the exact numbers being reported (without the huge disclaimers) in the media to claim "spikes."
The better data to look at is current (not cumulative) hospitalization numbers (where you can find them) and see if you can find a trend (it isn't in their historical data charts, but can sometimes tease it out from other data sources).

Maybe it's a grand conspiracy or maybe there is a spike. The Governor of Florida says there is a spike:

Gov. Ron DeSantis acknowledged on Saturday that the rising number of new Covid-19 cases in Florida cannot be explained away by an increase in testing, and announced plans to step up enforcement of social distancing practices in bars and nightclubs.

“Even with the testing increasing or being flat, the number of people testing positive is accelerating faster than that,” DeSantis told reporters during a briefing at the state Capitol. “You know that's evidence that there's transmission within those communities.”

https://www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2020/06/20/desantis-pivots-on-covid-19-surge-says-testing-doesnt-account-for-spike-1293901

I didn't see "spike" anywhere in his statement, nor did I mention anything about "grand conspiracy" - that was some relatively nasty innuendo from you in relation to facts that you apparently don't like to read (so much so that you deleted it in your quote of my comment - not cool). So let me repeat the link to and direct and direct quote of the data source (with emphasis added on the most important part) - noting that politico's journalists didn't bother to check this issue and note the major caveat...

Here's the link (to a non-partisan cite): https://covidtracking.com/data

Then you scroll down to Florida and see the disclaimer (also on the Florida specific page that they have), which states:

We report using the raw data provided by FDOH but we include both Florida residents and non-residents. On March 26, the dashboard stopped including non-residents in its visible counts, but they're still tracked behind the scenes.
On March 21, negatives jumped due to a methodology change: tests of people not investigated as PUIs are now included. As of May 15, Florida is reporting both specimens (PCR and antibody) and people tested. We report positives and negatives based on the number of people tested. However, the "people tested" number reported on Florida's dashboard has come into question as of May 31, because this number is not fully de-duplicated. Florida's report states that: "People tested on multiple days will be included for each day a new result was received."

The meaning of that is quite clear, and explains some unknown percentage of the increase in numbers out of Florida... namely:

(1) when a person tests positive they will 100% be given at one or more retests (and if they are at a hospital it's typically every day or two, until they get two negative tests in a row and are releasable, or pass away);

(2) per the statement, each one of those retests is published as a "new case" - even though it's not a new case of COVID but just a new positive test confirming an old case.

It's not a "conspiracy" to point out this defect in the data (which does make it basically garbage). It's a data quality issue. Calling a documented data quality issue a conspiracy doesn't make it one - it just discredits the person making that patently false assertion.

[Dresden]

Hillary could not beat Obama. Like Trump, Hillary should be in prison. So she, imo, was never a viable option. Trump is an idiot but Biden is not the answer either. I don't have the answer but apparently neither do the Hypocrats or the Bloodicans.

I love how the discussion on presidents has seemed to move. It used to be their values, ideas and plan. Now we just talk about who we dislike less and how one will do more damage than the other. What happened to actually picking a president based on liking them and having confidence they could lead the country? No I have to pick between two bumbling idiots, both corrupt, both corporate candidates and not much difference. It's like trying to pick between brussel sprouts and brocolli.

Its life.

The idea that Presidential candidates are some Disneyland characters is a myth.

Our politicians represent all our flaws. That's just statistically accurate.

It would be WEIRD if politicians are somehow any different from a moral standpoint than the average American.

That's why we should throw out the morality test.

And focus on the policy test and the performance test.

IMO, what's happening in this election is that we have a very traditional democrat, career politician in Biden, and then we had a number of very progressive candidates who were advocating for a lot of fundamental changes in our society- Warren, Bernie, Harris, among others. There wasn't much in between. So when it came down to it, the feeling among many people was to elect someone who could beat Trump, and given that prerequisite, Biden was the safer alternative.

If there was someone like Obama- someone young and exciting who was talking change, but not to the extent of a Bernie or Warren, I'm sure he would have crushed Biden. But we didn't have that candidate. We had Biden/Klobuchar/Buttigieg, and the Warren/Sanders, etc. And people went with the safe choice.

I can't be too upset about that reasoning. As much as I love what Bernie was saying, he would have had a tougher time v. Trump than Biden. Polls showed that, and I think they were right.

If I have to accept Biden instead of Sanders, in order to be sure not to have another term of Trump, I'll make that deal. And hope that Biden gives away to a more progressive cabinet than can lead the country in a new direction.

[PlayerUp]

No need to blame anyone here. It's the democratic party who decided to push for Biden who has a long history of problems himself.

Racism wasn't a dealbreaker for many 3 and 1/2 years ago either. Biden is a problematic candidate, but there's no contest between who's worse. It's not even a question.

Again, I don't like either and don't fall into either camp.

But there are a lot of people on the right who like smaller gov, less taxes and a more religious mindset. They strictly fall into the Trump camp as they do with most republicans. Biden doesn't represent those things. The problem is, that most on these boards are younger, not as religious and are more liberal with enviromental concerns.

Racism is a sensitive issue for many. It's so sensitive that you can't even really talk about it without potentially offending someone. From my perspective, Trump isn't by definition a direct racist but his language inadvertently is offensive and could be considered racist with many. You may agree, you may disagree. Everyone has their own opinions on this subject.

For me being a different race is what makes every human unique. I am as mixed as you can be with my wife being a completely different mixed race and everyone I work with being different races as well. All I can do is be proactive in my life at ensuring I treat everyone with dignity. Meanwhile, I have to prioritize the people who depend on me and my family. In addition there are much bigger issues going on as well in this world. From corruption, to people starving, from deadly viruses, from climate change, from people being rape and killed, from people being wrongly accused and the list goes on. Policy changes that impact lives forever matter more to me than anything when deciding who should be president.

[Jimako10]

Eh... be careful with repeating those assertions without looking at the quality of the source data. A lot of the data suggesting that there is a spike is, effectively, garbage. For example, the biggest spike appears to be from Florida (and specifically in the least open areas near Miami)... but you go to https://covidtracking.com/data and look at the disclaimer for Florida (with emphasis added)

Meaning that it appears that everyone who is retested (which happens when you go to the hospital at least every couple of days, and also happens as soon as you test positive once, even if not hospitalized) and gets a second, third, fourth, fifth positive test comes back as 2, 3, 4, 5 "new cases."

If you look at the disclaimers of all the states, you see hints of similar problems across the board - to include partial de-duplication correction notes (but no explanation of how that happened or whether it is being avoided), etc.

Mind you, these are the exact numbers being reported (without the huge disclaimers) in the media to claim "spikes."
The better data to look at is current (not cumulative) hospitalization numbers (where you can find them) and see if you can find a trend (it isn't in their historical data charts, but can sometimes tease it out from other data sources).

Maybe it's a grand conspiracy or maybe there is a spike. The Governor of Florida says there is a spike:

Gov. Ron DeSantis acknowledged on Saturday that the rising number of new Covid-19 cases in Florida cannot be explained away by an increase in testing, and announced plans to step up enforcement of social distancing practices in bars and nightclubs.

“Even with the testing increasing or being flat, the number of people testing positive is accelerating faster than that,” DeSantis told reporters during a briefing at the state Capitol. “You know that's evidence that there's transmission within those communities.”

https://www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2020/06/20/desantis-pivots-on-covid-19-surge-says-testing-doesnt-account-for-spike-1293901

I didn't see "spike" anywhere in his statement, nor did I mention anything about "grand conspiracy" - that was some relatively nasty innuendo from you in relation to facts that you apparently don't like to read (so much so that you deleted it in your quote of my comment - not cool). So let me repeat the link to and direct and direct quote of the data source (with emphasis added on the most important part) - noting that politico's journalists didn't bother to check this issue and note the major caveat...

Here's the link (to a non-partisan cite): https://covidtracking.com/data

Then you scroll down to Florida and see the disclaimer (also on the Florida specific page that they have), which states:

We report using the raw data provided by FDOH but we include both Florida residents and non-residents. On March 26, the dashboard stopped including non-residents in its visible counts, but they're still tracked behind the scenes.
On March 21, negatives jumped due to a methodology change: tests of people not investigated as PUIs are now included. As of May 15, Florida is reporting both specimens (PCR and antibody) and people tested. We report positives and negatives based on the number of people tested. However, the "people tested" number reported on Florida's dashboard has come into question as of May 31, because this number is not fully de-duplicated. Florida's report states that: "People tested on multiple days will be included for each day a new result was received."

The meaning of that is quite clear, and explains some unknown percentage of the increase in numbers out of Florida... namely:

(1) when a person tests positive they will 100% be given at one or more retests (and if they are at a hospital it's typically every day or two, until they get two negative tests in a row and are releasable, or pass away);

(2) per the statement, each one of those retests is published as a "new case" - even though it's not a new case of COVID but just a new positive test confirming an old case.

It's not a "conspiracy" to point out this defect in the data (which does make it basically garbage). It's a data quality issue. Calling a documented data quality issue a conspiracy doesn't make it one - it just discredits the person making that patently false assertion.

They don't retest everyday after your initial positive in the hospital, there's still a short supply of PCR tests nationwide and it would be a huge waste to test every day a patient is admitted in the hospital, not to mention that it makes zero sense to test everyday when you already know he's covid positive.

They test you in the beginning, and if your positive and you have symptoms, they treat you until your symptoms go away. After your symptoms are gone and other tests return to normal, they will retest for covid in order to get discharged, and usually that test will be negative. Sometimes you still do get a positive result, in which case the patient might stick around for a bit longer under observation, but generally those tests will be negative. It's rare and a waste of supplies/reagents to get someone tested more than 4-5 times in one hospital stay.

SOURCE: I'm a lab specialist for a hospital.