NBA Trade Thread #11

[sco]

I'm definitely of the mind that if we do anything in FA it should be to try to find young role players who can grow into potential future near-allstars, but ideally not hurt our tank chances too much next season.

Back to the Turner point, I really want to give Smith next season to show something. Not that it's a perfect predictor but, per 36:

Smith 20.1ppg 12.9rb 1.7bk shooting 48%fg 35% from 3 (6.6 attemps) 84% ft%
Turner 17.8ppg 7.7rb 2.1bk shooting 54%fg 40% from 3 (6 attempts) 75% ft%

Smith's a great option. I like him too. Would still want more real center depth than just Smith and Collins, though. An under 30 center is probably the only thing outside our free agents I'd even consider spending money on, if I'm the Bulls. It could be a much cheaper backup to Smith.

Don't think we tank next year, regardless of if we're able to trade Coby for a pick in this draft. If we can: (I'm throwing some high rookies in )

Lineup: Giddey, Tre Johnson, Bailey, Matas, Smith with Ball, Pat, Ayo, Collins, whatever we get back for Vuc

If we can't:
Lineup: Giddey, White, Bailey, Matas, Smith, with same bench

Neither of those are tank teams (bottom 5), and if Ball is healthy he'll add a disproportionate amount of wins.

In the East, we'd probably have to work to miss the play in, especially with Philly and Milwaukee self-destructing. Miami could be better or worse. Pistons still bad. Wizards horrible. Hornets weak. Raptors and Nets not good.

Billy's an underrated coach too. With our team composition and multiple injuries, we probably shouldn't have made the play in the last few years.

Isaiah Jackson, Thomas Bryant, Mo Bamba
Could be some cheaper FA backup centers..

Sure. My goal is to build a foundation of youngish guys that will both lose us enough games to get a top 8 pick next season while, with improvement, could serve as the foundation of the next "good" team here, when we can add a MAX player or two in the following season.

[Infinity2152]

I'm definitely of the mind that if we do anything in FA it should be to try to find young role players who can grow into potential future near-allstars, but ideally not hurt our tank chances too much next season.

Back to the Turner point, I really want to give Smith next season to show something. Not that it's a perfect predictor but, per 36:

Smith 20.1ppg 12.9rb 1.7bk shooting 48%fg 35% from 3 (6.6 attemps) 84% ft%
Turner 17.8ppg 7.7rb 2.1bk shooting 54%fg 40% from 3 (6 attempts) 75% ft%

Smith's a great option. I like him too. Would still want more real center depth than just Smith and Collins, though. An under 30 center is probably the only thing outside our free agents I'd even consider spending money on, if I'm the Bulls. It could be a much cheaper backup to Smith.

Don't think we tank next year, regardless of if we're able to trade Coby for a pick in this draft. If we can: (I'm throwing some high rookies in )

Lineup: Giddey, Tre Johnson, Bailey, Matas, Smith with Ball, Pat, Ayo, Collins, whatever we get back for Vuc

If we can't:
Lineup: Giddey, White, Bailey, Matas, Smith, with same bench

Neither of those are tank teams (bottom 5), and if Ball is healthy he'll add a disproportionate amount of wins.

In the East, we'd probably have to work to miss the play in, especially with Philly and Milwaukee self-destructing. Miami could be better or worse. Pistons still bad. Wizards horrible. Hornets weak. Raptors and Nets not good.

Billy's an underrated coach too. With our team composition and multiple injuries, we probably shouldn't have made the play in the last few years.

Isaiah Jackson, Thomas Bryant, Mo Bamba
Could be some cheaper FA backup centers..

Would love any of those guys at a fair price for us now. All young guys with some upside, probably relatively low cost. Wouldn't mind Smith being in the front, see how he does.

Edit: just checked out Bryant's number of missed games. Looks like he's only played over 60 games once in his career, don't know if that's extensive injury history or what? Dallas just had to sign Moses Brown (7'2 center) to a 10 day because AD, Lively, and Gafford are all out extended time. If Smith is starting and has never played starting minutes, we definitely need a reliably healthy guy behind him.

Bamba would be tops of the three. Does Isaiah Jackson play well at center? He's listed as a 6'9 forward, but of course we need that too.

[WesPeace]

Smith's a great option. I like him too. Would still want more real center depth than just Smith and Collins, though. An under 30 center is probably the only thing outside our free agents I'd even consider spending money on, if I'm the Bulls. It could be a much cheaper backup to Smith.

Don't think we tank next year, regardless of if we're able to trade Coby for a pick in this draft. If we can: (I'm throwing some high rookies in )

Lineup: Giddey, Tre Johnson, Bailey, Matas, Smith with Ball, Pat, Ayo, Collins, whatever we get back for Vuc

If we can't:
Lineup: Giddey, White, Bailey, Matas, Smith, with same bench

Neither of those are tank teams (bottom 5), and if Ball is healthy he'll add a disproportionate amount of wins.

In the East, we'd probably have to work to miss the play in, especially with Philly and Milwaukee self-destructing. Miami could be better or worse. Pistons still bad. Wizards horrible. Hornets weak. Raptors and Nets not good.

Billy's an underrated coach too. With our team composition and multiple injuries, we probably shouldn't have made the play in the last few years.

Isaiah Jackson, Thomas Bryant, Mo Bamba
Could be some cheaper FA backup centers..

Would love any of those guys at a fair price for us now. All young guys with some upside, probably relatively low cost. Wouldn't mind Smith being in the front, see how he does.

Edit: just checked out Bryant's number of missed games. Looks like he's only played over 60 games once in his career, don't know if that's extensive injury history or what? Dallas just had to sign Moses Brown (7'2 center) to a 10 day because AD, Lively, and Gafford are all out extended time. If Smith is starting and has never played starting minutes, we definitely need a reliably healthy guy behind him.

Bamba would be tops of the three. Does Isaiah Jackson play well at center? He's listed as a 6'9 forward, but of course we need that too.

Yeah, Smith as starter and maybe Bamba or Jackson as backup.. Jackson played some PF minutes and some C, he is good rebounder and solid rim protector in limited minutes, 5.6rbd and 1.6blk in 16mpg,but he js very bad FT shooter and doesnt shot 3pts...soo,hm..

Nazr Reid is also 6'9 but will be out of our price range probably, Paul Reed another smaller vet center, still only 25 yrs old.

[Infinity2152]

Isaiah Jackson, Thomas Bryant, Mo Bamba
Could be some cheaper FA backup centers..

Would love any of those guys at a fair price for us now. All young guys with some upside, probably relatively low cost. Wouldn't mind Smith being in the front, see how he does.

Edit: just checked out Bryant's number of missed games. Looks like he's only played over 60 games once in his career, don't know if that's extensive injury history or what? Dallas just had to sign Moses Brown (7'2 center) to a 10 day because AD, Lively, and Gafford are all out extended time. If Smith is starting and has never played starting minutes, we definitely need a reliably healthy guy behind him.

Bamba would be tops of the three. Does Isaiah Jackson play well at center? He's listed as a 6'9 forward, but of course we need that too.

Yeah, Smith as starter and maybe Bamba or Jackson as backup.. Jackson played some PF minutes and some C, he is good rebounder and solid rim protector in limited minutes, 5.6rbd and 1.6blk in 16mpg,but he js very bad FT shooter and doesnt shot 3pts...soo,hm..

Nazr Reid is also 6'9 but will be out of our price range probably, Paul Reed another smaller vet center, still only 25 yrs old.

Reid would be best of all, of course. He could end up a victim of timing. He has a player option at the same time as Julius Randle, and both would be smart to decline them. Randle was the big return in the KAT trade, makes sense they plan to re-sign him. At least $30 mill+. They already have Gobert at $35 mill. Ant Edwards $46 mill next year. The need doesn't match the cost it would take to keep Reid for that team. Not a lot of teams with cap space, money's going to dry up quick. If he doesn't get signed fast, Reid could be more affordable than expected. Wolves most definitely shouldn't overpay him. Nets have Claxton, who has enough space that needs a starting center?

There's also no chance for him to start for the Wolves, unless they let Randle walk. That could be important to him at this stage.

Paul Reed would be nice also. I'm seeing Jackson listed at SF/PF, 6'9" 206 lbs. If he's really 6'9, 206 he could have problems with serious minutes at center.

I'd offer the Wolves the same package I proposed for Turner. Trade a future 2030 or 2031 first like the Suns did and pick up multiple firsts. Package one or two of those firsts with Pat Will in S@T for Reid at somewhere between $20-25 mill AAV. Wolves pay $18 mill for a young SF (position of need) and get picks, rather than paying a backup to off their most expensive players. They may not accept it, but negotiations have to start somewhere and it's no if I don't offer for sure. Reid is 25, he could be a huge piece of our new core. Won't be a lot of $25 mill contracts this summer without sign and trades and this benefits Minny way more than just clearing $13 mill off the cap letting him go for nothing. As you can tell, I Really like Reid. Think he has top 5 center potential.

[Red8911]

Smith's a great option. I like him too. Would still want more real center depth than just Smith and Collins, though. An under 30 center is probably the only thing outside our free agents I'd even consider spending money on, if I'm the Bulls. It could be a much cheaper backup to Smith.

Don't think we tank next year, regardless of if we're able to trade Coby for a pick in this draft. If we can: (I'm throwing some high rookies in )

Lineup: Giddey, Tre Johnson, Bailey, Matas, Smith with Ball, Pat, Ayo, Collins, whatever we get back for Vuc

If we can't:
Lineup: Giddey, White, Bailey, Matas, Smith, with same bench

Neither of those are tank teams (bottom 5), and if Ball is healthy he'll add a disproportionate amount of wins.

In the East, we'd probably have to work to miss the play in, especially with Philly and Milwaukee self-destructing. Miami could be better or worse. Pistons still bad. Wizards horrible. Hornets weak. Raptors and Nets not good.

Billy's an underrated coach too. With our team composition and multiple injuries, we probably shouldn't have made the play in the last few years.

Isaiah Jackson, Thomas Bryant, Mo Bamba
Could be some cheaper FA backup centers..

Would love any of those guys at a fair price for us now. All young guys with some upside, probably relatively low cost. Wouldn't mind Smith being in the front, see how he does.

Edit: just checked out Bryant's number of missed games. Looks like he's only played over 60 games once in his career, don't know if that's extensive injury history or what? Dallas just had to sign Moses Brown (7'2 center) to a 10 day because AD, Lively, and Gafford are all out extended time. If Smith is starting and has never played starting minutes, we definitely need a reliably healthy guy behind him.

Bamba would be tops of the three. Does Isaiah Jackson play well at center? He's listed as a 6'9 forward, but of course we need that too.

There we go again with Bamba lol. Bulls fans have been obsessed with this guy since he entered the draft.

Every single year there’s always a suggestion for the bulls to sign Bamba. He’s been terrible but doesn’t matter they still want him here.

[WesPeace]

Bamba 14-16min per game as backup or even less with Collins also here wont kill the tanking haha..

[Infinity2152]

Who's looking at paying Bamba serious money or him starting, lol! Guys can't want to take a low-cost flyer on an young athletic 7 footer who can shoot? If he was putting up great numbers, he wouldn't be cheap. Nobody's expecting to get All Star results. What's the downside of giving him a shot now, if he's cheap? He may end up with third-center level money.

People get intrigued by Bamba because there aren't a lot of people with his size and agility on planet Earth, combined with his shot blocking and career 36% 3pt shooting.

[sco]

If we are thinking about Bamba, who I liked, why not go after Bol instead?

[Infinity2152]

All aboard the Bol train! Would prefer him over Bamba, but would definitely take Bamba as a low cost reclamation project, see what we could do with him. Bamba gets 1yr/ 1yr team option $6-8 mill. Bol Bol gets 4 years/$24 mill, last year team option offer. 2 last years if we can swing it.

Didn't know he's an unrestricted free agent this summer. Wouldn't get him over Naz Reid if possible, but this is the type of young team that can take a chance on diamonds in the rough. He gets much more time here after Vuc is traded, maybe that flips the switch. Bol Bol is the level of free agent target we should be trying to get (outside Reid or Turner imo, lol!).

Even better, move Vuc and sign both. Total of about $10 mill/yr and you only need one to break out.

Smith, Bol, and Bamba would be a CRAZY defensive, shotblocking and three point shooting center lineup! For pretty cheap!

[drosestruts]

The Bulls are going to have ~$85mm in expiring contracts next season. They own all their own picks, and have the future Portland 1st out there too.

The Bulls are set up to do one of two things:

1) take on unwanted long term money + draft assets in exchange for expirings

2) use their expirings and picks to go big game hunting



Scenario 1 - Taking on unwanted money + draft assets

The targets:

Paul George - George will have 3 very expensive years left on his deal. Is he washed up or is Philly just a bad fit? Philly will have a 1st round pick in both 2026 and 2028 they could send to Chicago.

Jordan Poole - The Wizards moved off Kuzma for a future pick swap and a rookie 1st round pick. What would they be willing to trade to get out of Poole's final 2 years. Wizards have 28 future picks in their control (primarily 2nds but some extra 1sts in 2029 and 2030)

Kawhi Leonard - Will we reach a point where the Clippers patience with Leonard runs out? Would the Bulls have anything to lose by swapping expirings for Leonard. (suppose this one is a bit of a hybrid between the two scenarios).

Jaden McDaniels - how do the new owners feel about their expensive payroll? It was rumored Minnesota was looking to acquire Ball's expiring deal and were maybe willing to attach draft assets. The only player money wise that aligns is McDaniels who will have 4 years reamining on his deal ater this season. Draft day trade for McDaniels and the Pistons pick for whichever of our expirings they like?

Jerami Grant - Portland will try and tell you you need to give value to get Grant, but all I see is a 15 ppg player with a 53% TS% who is over 30 and has 3 years left on his deal. Would Portland loosen or even get rid of the protections on their pick to get off of Grants money?



Those are my thoughts on some players we could potentially get paid in draft assets to take on in exchange for our treasure trove of expiring contracts this summer/next season.

Stay tuned for players i'd look into using our expirings + our picks to acquire. Yes I know you all hate the idea of trading draft picks (granted i'll admit it's worked out pretty poorly for us to date).

[Dan Z]

The Bulls are going to have ~$85mm in expiring contracts next season. They own all their own picks, and have the future Portland 1st out there too.

The Bulls are set up to do one of two things:

1) take on unwanted long term money + draft assets in exchange for expirings

2) use their expirings and picks to go big game hunting



Scenario 1 - Taking on unwanted money + draft assets

The targets:

Paul George - George will have 3 very expensive years left on his deal. Is he washed up or is Philly just a bad fit? Philly will have a 1st round pick in both 2026 and 2028 they could send to Chicago.

Jordan Poole - The Wizards moved off Kuzma for a future pick swap and a rookie 1st round pick. What would they be willing to trade to get out of Poole's final 2 years. Wizards have 28 future picks in their control (primarily 2nds but some extra 1sts in 2029 and 2030)

Kawhi Leonard - Will we reach a point where the Clippers patience with Leonard runs out? Would the Bulls have anything to lose by swapping expirings for Leonard. (suppose this one is a bit of a hybrid between the two scenarios).

Jaden McDaniels - how do the new owners feel about their expensive payroll? It was rumored Minnesota was looking to acquire Ball's expiring deal and were maybe willing to attach draft assets. The only player money wise that aligns is McDaniels who will have 4 years reamining on his deal ater this season. Draft day trade for McDaniels and the Pistons pick for whichever of our expirings they like?

Jerami Grant - Portland will try and tell you you need to give value to get Grant, but all I see is a 15 ppg player with a 53% TS% who is over 30 and has 3 years left on his deal. Would Portland loosen or even get rid of the protections on their pick to get off of Grants money?



Those are my thoughts on some players we could potentially get paid in draft assets to take on in exchange for our treasure trove of expiring contracts this summer/next season.

Stay tuned for players i'd look into using our expirings + our picks to acquire. Yes I know you all hate the idea of trading draft picks (granted i'll admit it's worked out pretty poorly for us to date).

I'd be surprised if AK took on contracts in order to acquire draft picks. It doesn't seem like his mo based on what he's done during his time here.

If he were to do that I'd steer clear of all the players on your list unless the draft picks coming back were great (which I doubt they would be).

[2weekswithpay]

I have nothing against Bamba but he'll be 27 soon. I'd prefer to look at someone younger for an upside signing. How many players suddenly figure it out at 27-28?

[Infinity2152]

I have nothing against Bamba but he'll be 27 soon. I'd prefer to look at someone younger for an upside signing. How many players suddenly figure it out at 27-28?

He's coming off a 1 yr/$2.61 mill contract. Maybe looking at 2-4 mill/yr? Not looking for a lot from him, but athletic and good shooting/shot blocking depth. Vucevic's durability is really underrated, most teams need three playable centers. Mav's have 3, and just had to sign a fourth from the G-League, lol. Barring signing an undrafted player or drafting one, how are you getting a younger prospect at that price? Was talking about a 1 and1 cheap contract, if he plays his way up to replacement level backup, that's value. If not, he never plays unless there are injuries.

Throwing 4 more predictions when talking about Bulls options (Putting on my Nostradamus cap )

1 Ja Morant will be traded by next trade deadline. He misses a ton of games, has caused a ton of problems and Memphis will realize he's leading them nowhere and cash in. I'm seeing rumors now, but even if I wasn't it seems likely.

2. Zion Williamson will be traded by next trade deadline. Obvious reasons.

3. Biggest one: Giannis will request a trade summer 2026. May not happen until the trade deadline, similar to Jimmy. Trade of Middleton broke trust, he's mentioned playing out his contract, and he has a player option in 2027.

4. Embid will be on the block within the next two years. Can't estimate the timing.

Not advocating for these (besides Giannis) but some possible available superstar options, as opposed to stars.

[sco]

I have nothing against Bamba but he'll be 27 soon. I'd prefer to look at someone younger for an upside signing. How many players suddenly figure it out at 27-28?

He's coming off a 1 yr/$2.61 mill contract. Maybe looking at 2-4 mill/yr? Not looking for a lot from him, but athletic and good shooting/shot blocking depth. Vucevic's durability is really underrated, most teams need three playable centers. Mav's have 3, and just had to sign a fourth from the G-League, lol. Barring signing an undrafted player or drafting one, how are you getting a younger prospect at that price? Was talking about a 1 and1 cheap contract, if he plays his way up to replacement level backup, that's value. If not, he never plays unless there are injuries.

Throwing 4 more predictions when talking about Bulls options (Putting on my Nostradamus cap )

1 Ja Morant will be traded by next trade deadline. He misses a ton of games, has caused a ton of problems and Memphis will realize he's leading them nowhere and cash in. I'm seeing rumors now, but even if I wasn't it seems likely.

2. Zion Williamson will be traded by next trade deadline. Obvious reasons.

3. Biggest one: Giannis will request a trade summer 2026. May not happen until the trade deadline, similar to Jimmy. Trade of Middleton broke trust, he's mentioned playing out his contract, and he has a player option in 2027.

4. Embid will be on the block within the next two years. Can't estimate the timing.

Not advocating for these (besides Giannis) but some possible available superstar options, as opposed to stars.

Go get me Bol over Bamba. Bamba's been in too many situations where he had a shot to contribute, but hasn't stuck anywhere. Clearly there's something about him teams don't like.

Regarding your predictions, I worry that AK will be pushing the panic button to nab his next star and make a play for Zion or Embiid and give up everything. Those guys are bad risks for a team with so little other talent. Ja could be interesting, but I doubt he goes anywhere...and I think MEM would be looking for another star back if they decided to move him. Also, Ja's game gives me DRose vibes and I just don't think that that type of game ages well in the NBA.

[Infinity2152]

I have nothing against Bamba but he'll be 27 soon. I'd prefer to look at someone younger for an upside signing. How many players suddenly figure it out at 27-28?

He's coming off a 1 yr/$2.61 mill contract. Maybe looking at 2-4 mill/yr? Not looking for a lot from him, but athletic and good shooting/shot blocking depth. Vucevic's durability is really underrated, most teams need three playable centers. Mav's have 3, and just had to sign a fourth from the G-League, lol. Barring signing an undrafted player or drafting one, how are you getting a younger prospect at that price? Was talking about a 1 and1 cheap contract, if he plays his way up to replacement level backup, that's value. If not, he never plays unless there are injuries.

Throwing 4 more predictions when talking about Bulls options (Putting on my Nostradamus cap )

1 Ja Morant will be traded by next trade deadline. He misses a ton of games, has caused a ton of problems and Memphis will realize he's leading them nowhere and cash in. I'm seeing rumors now, but even if I wasn't it seems likely.

2. Zion Williamson will be traded by next trade deadline. Obvious reasons.

3. Biggest one: Giannis will request a trade summer 2026. May not happen until the trade deadline, similar to Jimmy. Trade of Middleton broke trust, he's mentioned playing out his contract, and he has a player option in 2027.

4. Embid will be on the block within the next two years. Can't estimate the timing.

Not advocating for these (besides Giannis) but some possible available superstar options, as opposed to stars.

Go get me Bol over Bamba. Bamba's been in too many situations where he had a shot to contribute, but hasn't stuck anywhere. Clearly there's something about him teams don't like.

Regarding your predictions, I worry that AK will be pushing the panic button to nab his next star and make a play for Zion or Embiid and give up everything. Those guys are bad risks for a team with so little other talent. Ja could be interesting, but I doubt he goes anywhere...and I think MEM would be looking for another star back if they decided to move him. Also, Ja's game gives me DRose vibes and I just don't think that that type of game ages well in the NBA.

Yeah, I mention Ja, Zion, and Embid because they just seem like those star moves that make a GM look good and hype the fan base. I think giving up a lot to get any of them would be bad for us long-term. Giannis is different, of course.

As far as Ja, his dad has been in the news getting kicked out of games, you have the suspension, and the fact that he hasn't played 65+ games in a season since his rookie year. Add the fact that the Grizzlies might get a GREAT trade offer for him, he's valuable. Grizzlies may cash in and give that problem to someone else. I just see so many ways that partnership doesn't look like it's working out for the Grizzlies. The same reservations you have for Morant, Grizzlies have to see that too. His playstyle leaves him very likely to be constantly injured. And don't know how good they are with him being the face of the team with his issues.

I'm taking Bol over Bamba too. Difference is Bol's getting signed to be the second center with potential to start, and Bamba's getting the minimum to be the third center for spot minutes and injuries. If we're stuck with Collins for a while, don't want to pay much to a third center. Collins only has 2025 left, so he may stick. Bol should get at least double what Bamba gets ($2-4 mill), maybe triple or more.

Bamba's career per 36 (I know, I know!): 14.6 pts, 11.6 rebounds, 2.7 blocks. 56% 2pt and he shoots 36% from three at a high rate. 39% last year. He's getting up 2 3pt attempts in 12 minutes this season. And he pretty much plays at least 12-15 minutes or more anywhere he goes, so teams aren't THAT disappointed.

Bol Bol career per 36: 15.9 pts, 9.4 rebounds, 2.1 blocks. 64% 2pt, 32% three point. Bamba has averaged 17 minutes a game, Bol at 14, so he's actually gotten more PT from his teams than Bol.

[WesPeace]

More rumours about LaMelo to Bulls maybe in summer... I mean I would have him as player on Bulls instead of Giddey, but LaMelo also is never healthy! Another huge risk to take on .

But sign and trade Giddey ( lets say 22M per), White and POR protected 1st rounder for LaMelo sounds decent offer.

Sent Vucevic to Dallas for Gafford and Marshall,

2 summer trades to reshape roster in first step, then we can follow up with 1-2 more trades to build roster who will fit together better.. Huerter, Collins, Terry, Phillips as possible trade pieces..

LaMelo, Lonzo, PWill, Buzelis, Gafford
Ayo, Huerter, Marshall, 25' D.P. , Smith
Young, Terry, Phillips, EJ Liddell, Collins

PWill - get him on strong diet and trim his body to leaner SF body type.. 25' Draft pick will depend on a lot of factors and if we get instant possible starter or bench guy in rookie year.

[Infinity2152]

More rumours about LaMelo to Bulls maybe in summer... I mean I would have him as player on Bulls instead of Giddey, but LaMelo also is never healthy! Another huge risk to take on .

But sign and trade Giddey ( lets say 22M per), White and POR protected 1st rounder for LaMelo sounds decent offer.

Sent Vucevic to Dallas for Gafford and Marshall,

2 summer trades to reshape roster in first step, then we can follow up with 1-2 more trades to build roster who will fit together better.. Huerter, Collins, Terry, Phillips as possible trade pieces..

LaMelo, Lonzo, PWill, Buzelis, Gafford
Ayo, Huerter, Marshall, 25' D.P. , Smith
Young, Terry, Phillips, EJ Liddell, Collins

PWill - get him on strong diet and trim his body to leaner SF body type.. 25' Draft pick will depend on a lot of factors and if we get instant possible starter or bench guy in rookie year.

Imo, availability is a more important trait than shooting, defense, etc. None of that matters if you're a max player who rarely plays. Lamelo played 22 games last year and 36 the year before. 51 his first season. Giddey played 80 last year and 76 the year before. No way I trade Giddey, Coby AND a pick for a guy who's played less than 52 games 4 out of 5 years at 40 mill AAV. Just keep Giddey and let him improve. Ball looks like one of those guys where his style of play will keep him injured. We already have a Ball brother with mad injury issues, lol!

Thinking that Vuc for Gafford trade could happen, and a lot of that is because of Vuc's durability. Mavs have 3 injured big men at the same time right now. Durability is so under rated.

[Muzbar]

More rumours about LaMelo to Bulls maybe in summer... I mean I would have him as player on Bulls instead of Giddey, but LaMelo also is never healthy! Another huge risk to take on .

But sign and trade Giddey ( lets say 22M per), White and POR protected 1st rounder for LaMelo sounds decent offer.

Sent Vucevic to Dallas for Gafford and Marshall,

2 summer trades to reshape roster in first step, then we can follow up with 1-2 more trades to build roster who will fit together better.. Huerter, Collins, Terry, Phillips as possible trade pieces..

LaMelo, Lonzo, PWill, Buzelis, Gafford
Ayo, Huerter, Marshall, 25' D.P. , Smith
Young, Terry, Phillips, EJ Liddell, Collins

PWill - get him on strong diet and trim his body to leaner SF body type.. 25' Draft pick will depend on a lot of factors and if we get instant possible starter or bench guy in rookie year.

Imo, availability is a more important trait than shooting, defense, etc. None of that matters if you're a max player who rarely plays. Lamelo played 22 games last year and 36 the year before. 51 his first season. Giddey played 80 last year and 76 the year before. No way I trade Giddey, Coby AND a pick for a guy who's played less than 52 games 4 out of 5 years at 40 mill AAV. Just keep Giddey and let him improve. Ball looks like one of those guys where his style of play will keep him injured. We already have a Ball brother with mad injury issues, lol!

It's amusing that people continually complain about our players being injured all the time etc, especially LaVine, he's was constantly bagged out about being paid a bunch of money and being injury prone but then people want to trade for players who are just as, if not more injury prone as LaVine and being paid the same money.

I just don't get it.

That's a no from me for LaMelo to Chicago.

[Infinity2152]

More rumours about LaMelo to Bulls maybe in summer... I mean I would have him as player on Bulls instead of Giddey, but LaMelo also is never healthy! Another huge risk to take on .

But sign and trade Giddey ( lets say 22M per), White and POR protected 1st rounder for LaMelo sounds decent offer.

Sent Vucevic to Dallas for Gafford and Marshall,

2 summer trades to reshape roster in first step, then we can follow up with 1-2 more trades to build roster who will fit together better.. Huerter, Collins, Terry, Phillips as possible trade pieces..

LaMelo, Lonzo, PWill, Buzelis, Gafford
Ayo, Huerter, Marshall, 25' D.P. , Smith
Young, Terry, Phillips, EJ Liddell, Collins

PWill - get him on strong diet and trim his body to leaner SF body type.. 25' Draft pick will depend on a lot of factors and if we get instant possible starter or bench guy in rookie year.

Imo, availability is a more important trait than shooting, defense, etc. None of that matters if you're a max player who rarely plays. Lamelo played 22 games last year and 36 the year before. 51 his first season. Giddey played 80 last year and 76 the year before. No way I trade Giddey, Coby AND a pick for a guy who's played less than 52 games 4 out of 5 years at 40 mill AAV. Just keep Giddey and let him improve. Ball looks like one of those guys where his style of play will keep him injured. We already have a Ball brother with mad injury issues, lol!

It's amusing that people continually complain about our players being injured all the time etc, especially LaVine, he's was constantly bagged out about being paid a bunch of money and being injury prone but then people want to trade for players who are just as, if not more injury prone as LaVine and being paid the same money.

I just don't get it.

That's a no from me for LaMelo to Chicago.

Great comparison. Aside from being younger, Lamelo is about at the same level as Lavine. He's a better playmaker and rebounder, Lavine's stronger, better athlete and better shooter. Lavine's the more efficient scorer and probably a better defender at this point. And Lavine's been more durable than Lamelo. They're both very good number 2's, imo. Lamelo has not been leading the Hornets to wins.

He's putting up 23 shots a game at 54.7% TS this year. PG average is 55.5 according to StatMuse.
Lavine's at 62.6%. Shooting guard average is 57.1%

[Dan Z]

More rumours about LaMelo to Bulls maybe in summer... I mean I would have him as player on Bulls instead of Giddey, but LaMelo also is never healthy! Another huge risk to take on .

But sign and trade Giddey ( lets say 22M per), White and POR protected 1st rounder for LaMelo sounds decent offer.

Sent Vucevic to Dallas for Gafford and Marshall,

2 summer trades to reshape roster in first step, then we can follow up with 1-2 more trades to build roster who will fit together better.. Huerter, Collins, Terry, Phillips as possible trade pieces..

LaMelo, Lonzo, PWill, Buzelis, Gafford
Ayo, Huerter, Marshall, 25' D.P. , Smith
Young, Terry, Phillips, EJ Liddell, Collins

PWill - get him on strong diet and trim his body to leaner SF body type.. 25' Draft pick will depend on a lot of factors and if we get instant possible starter or bench guy in rookie year.

Imo, availability is a more important trait than shooting, defense, etc. None of that matters if you're a max player who rarely plays. Lamelo played 22 games last year and 36 the year before. 51 his first season. Giddey played 80 last year and 76 the year before. No way I trade Giddey, Coby AND a pick for a guy who's played less than 52 games 4 out of 5 years at 40 mill AAV. Just keep Giddey and let him improve. Ball looks like one of those guys where his style of play will keep him injured. We already have a Ball brother with mad injury issues, lol!

Thinking that Vuc for Gafford trade could happen, and a lot of that is because of Vuc's durability. Mavs have 3 injured big men at the same time right now. Durability is so under rated.

Gafford is younger and cheaper than Vucevic. Maybe they'd consider it before the deadline, but I bet they'd turn it down in the off season.

With LaMelo also keep in mind that he's never been on a winning team. Why is that? Bad teammates? Bad luck? Will he improve on a better team? Maybe...just something to keep in mind. I wouldn't trade for him, but that's my two cents.