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Around The NBA : 2024-25 Season

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Re: Around The NBA : 2024-25 Season 

Post#1761 » by sco » Sun Jun 29, 2025 3:22 pm

DASMACKDOWN wrote:Golden St is in such a weird space with Kuminga.

It reminds me of John Collins in Atlanta. Atlanta really didn't want Collins, but they did as an asset. They reluctantly paid him because they still traded him a season later.

That is how I feel about GS and Kuminga. But in this case GS really doesnt want to pay him because of apron tax.

They want him but not really. They don't want to pay him but also dont want him gone for nothing.

They basically want someone that can help the team compete for a title, while not locking themselves in long-term to a team that cant win.

Good analogy. I really don't think they want him at any price, but want to maximize what they get back in trade and don't want to lose him for nothing.
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Post#1762 » by Ice Man » Sun Jun 29, 2025 5:06 pm

Sounds like what we should have done with Pat rather than pay and cross fingers that he becomes a different and better player. Low odds in that strategy.
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Post#1763 » by boozapalooza » Sun Jun 29, 2025 5:52 pm

This summer might really get crazy if Lebron forces his way to Cleveland. Its the perfect move for him and maybe for the Lakers too. Lebron could have an incredibly easy path to the Finals in the East vs having almost no shot in the West. Cavs have the ammo to pull it off.

Deal centered around Garland/Allen for Lebron. Cavs go all in on this season and are the unquestioned favorites in the East with Lebron/Mitchell/Mobley. Would be the best way for Lebron to go out in his last 1-2 years. Lakers build around Luka with a great backcourt scorer and legit big man. Luka/Garland/Allen/Reaves is a great young core.

The smoke around this is starting today. Worth monitoring.
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Post#1764 » by Mk0 » Sun Jun 29, 2025 6:15 pm

boozapalooza wrote:This summer might really get crazy if Lebron forces his way to Cleveland. Its the perfect move for him and maybe for the Lakers too. Lebron could have an incredibly easy path to the Finals in the East vs having almost no shot in the West. Cavs have the ammo to pull it off.

Deal centered around Garland/Allen for Lebron. Cavs go all in on this season and are the unquestioned favorites in the East with Lebron/Mitchell/Mobley. Would be the best way for Lebron to go out in his last 1-2 years. Lakers build around Luka with a great backcourt scorer and legit big man. Luka/Garland/Allen/Reaves is a great young core.

The smoke around this is starting today. Worth monitoring.

LeBron to Cleveland would be hilarious, but not doing himself any favors with his history of picking the easiest path.

Miami - Cavs were tapped out with all the terrible win now moves so he joins the Heatles. Then ditches old Wade, Bosh and the scraps leftover from dumping every asset into that 4 year window.

Cleveland - Retools the roster around him with the surplus of assets from essentially tanking in the 4 years he was gone. Kyrie reads the room and dips out, the Cavs sh#t the bed on the retool (shocking!) and they even make a trade with the Lakers that grease the wheels for him to leave FOR the Lakers the following offseason.

Lakers - Jumps to the Lakers and tries to recruit Kawhi/PG, fails and then Klutches AD from the Pels.

Back to Cleveland? - Scrapheap of a roster, somehow manages to get Luka for AD and Christie, but still nowhere near ready to compete without a major retool around Luka. Leaves to join up with the previous #1 seed in a depleted East with Mitchell/Mobley (DPOY) who at times have been compared to Wade/Bosh. Although I heard more KG comps for Mobley than anything.

As a sports fan I hate the whole jumping ship to stack the deck, but you have to commend the guy on his savvy.

LeBron's been able to manage his career better than anyone else in the sport and doing so while moving on as a FA. He has never asked for a trade because he was able to maneuver things as he needed and left when the time was right. It is super impressive and would be lauded in basically any other field.

If this man was an actor (like that was his actual profession, save the Space Jam 2 jokes :lol: ) we'd be talking about how he always managed to work with the best actors and directors while being a producer of his own films.
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Re: Around The NBA : 2024-25 Season 

Post#1765 » by boozapalooza » Sun Jun 29, 2025 7:12 pm

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Interested to see how this goes, Grimes is only 25, hasnt shown much on good teams, shined when featured down the stretch in Philly this year (22/5/5 over 28 games). Good volume 3 PT shooter and scorer. Solid on defense.

I figured he’d be a 10-15M per year type of guy. 25M is eyepopping. But I could see it. If hes getting 25M, Giddey’s a lock for 30M.
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Post#1766 » by sco » Sun Jun 29, 2025 8:09 pm

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Interested to see how this goes, Grimes is only 25, hasnt shown much on good teams, shined when featured down the stretch in Philly this year (22/5/5 over 28 games). Good volume 3 PT shooter and scorer. Solid on defense.

I figured he’d be a 10-15M per year type of guy. 25M is eyepopping. But I could see it. If hes getting 25M, Giddey’s a lock for 30M.

First, Grimes was really great statistically on a bad team. Those are tough stats to sort out. I've been a fan of his since his NY days, but I just don't see anyone coming up with those $. That all said, his performance mirrors Giddey's almost perfectly. I think Giddey getting $25M would be fine.
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Post#1767 » by Chi town » Sun Jun 29, 2025 10:17 pm

Grimes is crazy.

He’s a MLE player tops.

Will be hilarious if Sixers lose him.
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Post#1768 » by Chi town » Sun Jun 29, 2025 10:58 pm

Looks like Beasley is toast for gambling on games with prop bets.

Pistons will def be signing NAW now.
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Post#1769 » by MGB8 » Sun Jun 29, 2025 11:00 pm

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Interested to see how this goes, Grimes is only 25, hasnt shown much on good teams, shined when featured down the stretch in Philly this year (22/5/5 over 28 games). Good volume 3 PT shooter and scorer. Solid on defense.

I figured he’d be a 10-15M per year type of guy. 25M is eyepopping. But I could see it. If hes getting 25M, Giddey’s a lock for 30M.


Honestly, not sure that I wouldn't sign and trade Coby for him if locked in at 20-25 AAV. Not sure that Coby is that much better on O, and Grimes is better on D.
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Post#1770 » by Muzbar » Sun Jun 29, 2025 11:10 pm

boozapalooza wrote:This summer might really get crazy if Lebron forces his way to Cleveland. Its the perfect move for him and maybe for the Lakers too. Lebron could have an incredibly easy path to the Finals in the East vs having almost no shot in the West. Cavs have the ammo to pull it off.

Deal centered around Garland/Allen for Lebron. Cavs go all in on this season and are the unquestioned favorites in the East with Lebron/Mitchell/Mobley. Would be the best way for Lebron to go out in his last 1-2 years. Lakers build around Luka with a great backcourt scorer and legit big man. Luka/Garland/Allen/Reaves is a great young core.

The smoke around this is starting today. Worth monitoring.

I see no reason why the Cavs would trade for LeBron. It would be beyond stupid.

They have a young core that had the best record in the East last year. Trading for what would probably be 1 year of 41 year old Lebron would decimate their future.

It won't happen.
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Re: Around The NBA : 2024-25 Season 

Post#1771 » by 2weekswithpay » Mon Jun 30, 2025 12:07 am

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Post#1772 » by DASMACKDOWN » Mon Jun 30, 2025 12:12 am

Seems 25 mil is the new norm for everyone.
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Post#1773 » by nomorezorro » Mon Jun 30, 2025 12:22 am

houston trading for durant, paying jabari and reportedly interested in finney-smith...wonder if eason is gettable?

i assume they're just gonna keep him but if they aren't i would definitely be willing to trade coby for him. i know we don't really need another big wing but i really like eason
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Post#1774 » by HomoSapien » Mon Jun 30, 2025 12:34 am

nomorezorro wrote:houston trading for durant, paying jabari and reportedly interested in finney-smith...wonder if eason is gettable?

i assume they're just gonna keep him but if they aren't i would definitely be willing to trade coby for him. i know we don't really need another big wing but i really like eason


He was supposedly unavailable in the KD trade talks. I would love to have him though.
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Post#1775 » by nomorezorro » Mon Jun 30, 2025 12:46 am

yeah they're almost certainly just content to keep all their young guys until they feel more of a salary crunch. it's just funny that they're potentially going to pay 4 different guys who play the same position
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Post#1776 » by kulaz3000 » Mon Jun 30, 2025 12:46 am

If we can resign Coby on a similar deal to Jabari Smith, I think that would be a win for both Coby and the team. If that's something that the management could work out, I'd prefer to keep Coby.
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Post#1777 » by Infinity2152 » Mon Jun 30, 2025 2:17 am

Y'all are kidding if you think Coby's going to be looking for Quentin Grimes and Jabari Smith money. Smith averaged 12pt 5rbs with a PER 13, Grimes averaged 15 pts, 4 rbs, 3 assts PER 16. They're on their second contract. Coby's likely to be our top scorer, 22+ pts on good shooting looking at his third contract. He's not looking at anything close to $25 mill.

Philly can have Pat Will, Ayo and we'll take S&T Grimes. Deal done, let's go.
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Post#1778 » by Pax for Prez » Mon Jun 30, 2025 2:53 am

The Blazers have agreed to a contract buyout with veteran center Deandre Ayton, reports ESPN’s Shams Charania (via Twitter).

Ayton is in the final year of a four-year, nearly $133MM contract, which was set to pay him $35.5MM this season. The Blazers, who have drafted centers in the first round of the 2024 and 2025 drafts, will use this opportunity to clear rotation minutes for their young big men.

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2025/06/blazers-will-buy-out-deandre-ayton.html
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Post#1779 » by Chi town » Mon Jun 30, 2025 2:55 am

Pax for Prez wrote:The Blazers have agreed to a contract buyout with veteran center Deandre Ayton, reports ESPN’s Shams Charania (via Twitter).

Ayton is in the final year of a four-year, nearly $133MM contract, which was set to pay him $35.5MM this season. The Blazers, who have drafted centers in the first round of the 2024 and 2025 drafts, will use this opportunity to clear rotation minutes for their young big men.

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2025/06/blazers-will-buy-out-deandre-ayton.html


Yikes.

Vuc is much better but Ayton will be much cheaper.
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Re: Around The NBA : 2024-25 Season 

Post#1780 » by step » Mon Jun 30, 2025 3:16 am

boozapalooza wrote:I figured he’d be a 10-15M per year type of guy. 25M is eyepopping. But I could see it. If hes getting 25M, Giddey’s a lock for 30M.

Well.. $15M is MLE money. Any signs of potential + youth has always garnered more than it.
And too many other scrubs have somewhat managed to negotiate $20/25M+ that the benchmark has been set for now.

That being said... I think teams are going to start looking at their books a lot closer. $20M+ was somewhat expectant of a solid starter etc.
But if you have two max salaries, it's going to be hard to pay the rest of the starting line-up that type of money...

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