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Re: 2018 Draft Thread #6 

Post#1781 » by Repeat 3-peat » Fri Mar 16, 2018 4:13 am

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G Buckets wrote:Even the top prospects have question marks. Reason why I don't understand all the crying when this team wins.

The best player in last years draft was drafted 11th overall. The Lakers had three straight drafts selecting 2nd overall and they're hoping PG13, or LBJ saves them(they won't).

The Bulls can still land a good player even at 9th overall if the coaches/scouts do their homework.


I hope you don't actually believe that Mitchell will be the best player in this draft three years from now. I sure as Hell don't. He had an an extra year of experience on most these guys.


Yes I do along with Tatum and hopefully Lauri as a Bulls fan.

An extra year of experience is somewhat irreverent, talent is talent. Mitchell is a very good player and will continue to improve. Utah is in a playoff position after losing their All Star player in Hayward to the Celtics and Gobert has missed some time due to injury. Mitchell is legit.
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Re: 2018 Draft Thread #6 

Post#1782 » by IcemanGervin » Fri Mar 16, 2018 4:15 am

G Buckets wrote:
IcemanGervin wrote:
G Buckets wrote:Even the top prospects have question marks. Reason why I don't understand all the crying when this team wins.

The best player in last years draft was drafted 11th overall. The Lakers had three straight drafts selecting 2nd overall and they're hoping PG13, or LBJ saves them(they won't).

The Bulls can still land a good player even at 9th overall if the coaches/scouts do their homework.


I would be ecstatic with Ball and Kuzma over what we have


You'd take Kuzma over Lauri?

Ball? we can just sign Rondo again in the off season.


Kuzma has a better offensive skillset right now....Long term probably would rather have Lauri.


......and I'm just going to ignore that Rondo/Ball thing
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Re: 2018 Draft Thread #6 

Post#1783 » by WindyCityBorn » Fri Mar 16, 2018 4:17 am

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WindyCityBorn wrote:
G Buckets wrote:Even the top prospects have question marks. Reason why I don't understand all the crying when this team wins.

The best player in last years draft was drafted 11th overall. The Lakers had three straight drafts selecting 2nd overall and they're hoping PG13, or LBJ saves them(they won't).

The Bulls can still land a good player even at 9th overall if the coaches/scouts do their homework.


I hope you don't actually believe that Mitchell will be the best player in this draft three years from now. I sure as Hell don't. He had an an extra year of experience on most these guys.


Yes I do along with Tatum and hopefully Lauri as a Bulls fan.

An extra year of experience is somewhat irreverent, talent is talent. Mitchell is a very good player and will continue to improve. Utah is in a playoff position after losing their All Star player in Hayward to the Celtics and Gobert has missed some time due to injury. Mitchell is legit.


Experience is irrelevant? I've heard it all now. If experience is irrelevant then why do players tend to improve exponentially in their early years of development?
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Re: 2018 Draft Thread #6 

Post#1784 » by Repeat 3-peat » Fri Mar 16, 2018 4:19 am

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I would be ecstatic with Ball and Kuzma over what we have


You'd take Kuzma over Lauri?

Ball? we can just sign Rondo again in the off season.


Kuzma has a better offensive skillset right now....Long term probably would rather have Lauri.


......and I'm just going to ignore that Rondo/Ball thing


Ball is shooting 30% in his last 5 games. He can make nice passes though.
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Re: 2018 Draft Thread #6 

Post#1785 » by Repeat 3-peat » Fri Mar 16, 2018 4:23 am

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WindyCityBorn wrote:
I hope you don't actually believe that Mitchell will be the best player in this draft three years from now. I sure as Hell don't. He had an an extra year of experience on most these guys.


Yes I do along with Tatum and hopefully Lauri as a Bulls fan.

An extra year of experience is somewhat irreverent, talent is talent. Mitchell is a very good player and will continue to improve. Utah is in a playoff position after losing their All Star player in Hayward to the Celtics and Gobert has missed some time due to injury. Mitchell is legit.


Experience is irrelevant? I've heard it all now. If experience is irrelevant then why do players tend to improve exponentially in their early years of development?


Experience does "help" but it's 1 year. He's not some 4 year college player, even if he was I'm not going to say it'll limit him to being the best player from this draft class 3-5 years from now.

Mitchell is a good athlete, can shoot and has defensive upside. He's a building block for the Jazz.

This conversation reminds me the ones I had with fans in 2012 with Lillard. (Experience was brought up when compared to Beal/Waiters)
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Re: 2018 Draft Thread #6 

Post#1786 » by Ccwatercraft » Fri Mar 16, 2018 4:27 am

have to say I was disappointed in Ayton tonight, it was the only game I watched tonight mainly because I wanted to see him dominate, oh well. Hell of a fun game to watch, i'm always a big fan of the underdog teams in tournament play, can't help but get caught up in the excitement.
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Re: 2018 Draft Thread #6 

Post#1787 » by WindyCityBorn » Fri Mar 16, 2018 4:35 am

G Buckets wrote:
WindyCityBorn wrote:
G Buckets wrote:
Yes I do along with Tatum and hopefully Lauri as a Bulls fan.

An extra year of experience is somewhat irreverent, talent is talent. Mitchell is a very good player and will continue to improve. Utah is in a playoff position after losing their All Star player in Hayward to the Celtics and Gobert has missed some time due to injury. Mitchell is legit.


Experience is irrelevant? I've heard it all now. If experience is irrelevant then why do players tend to improve exponentially in their early years of development?


Experience does "help" but it's 1 year. He's not some 4 year college player, even if he was I'm not going to say it'll limit him to being the best player from this draft class 5 years from now.

Mitchell is a good athlete, can shoot and has defensive upside. He's a building block for the Jazz.

This conversation reminds me the ones I had with fans in 2012 with Lillard. (Experience was brought up when compared to Beal/Waiters)


I guess we'll see. Do also believe Mitchell will be better than Ben Simmons?
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Re: 2018 Draft Thread #6 

Post#1788 » by Repeat 3-peat » Fri Mar 16, 2018 4:37 am

WindyCityBorn wrote:
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WindyCityBorn wrote:
Experience is irrelevant? I've heard it all now. If experience is irrelevant then why do players tend to improve exponentially in their early years of development?


Experience does "help" but it's 1 year. He's not some 4 year college player, even if he was I'm not going to say it'll limit him to being the best player from this draft class 5 years from now.

Mitchell is a good athlete, can shoot and has defensive upside. He's a building block for the Jazz.

This conversation reminds me the ones I had with fans in 2012 with Lillard. (Experience was brought up when compared to Beal/Waiters)


I guess we'll see. Do also believe Mitchell will be better than Ben Simmons?


Simmons is a jump shot away to being one of the top 3-5 players in the world, so no.

But BS is not from this draft class even though he's considered a rookie.
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Re: 2018 Draft Thread #6 

Post#1789 » by WindyCityBorn » Fri Mar 16, 2018 4:40 am

G Buckets wrote:
WindyCityBorn wrote:
G Buckets wrote:
Experience does "help" but it's 1 year. He's not some 4 year college player, even if he was I'm not going to say it'll limit him to being the best player from this draft class 5 years from now.

Mitchell is a good athlete, can shoot and has defensive upside. He's a building block for the Jazz.

This conversation reminds me the ones I had with fans in 2012 with Lillard. (Experience was brought up when compared to Beal/Waiters)


I guess we'll see. Do also believe Mitchell will be better than Ben Simmons?


Simmons is a jump shot a way to being one of the top 3-5 players in the world, so no.

But BS is not from this draft class even though he's considered a rookie.


I know that,but were talking about players he is currently better than. There are guys in this class that have potential to surpass him. Ball, Markkanen and Tatum for sure.
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Re: 2018 Draft Thread #6 

Post#1790 » by Repeat 3-peat » Fri Mar 16, 2018 4:43 am

WindyCityBorn wrote:
G Buckets wrote:
WindyCityBorn wrote:
I guess we'll see. Do also believe Mitchell will be better than Ben Simmons?


Simmons is a jump shot a way to being one of the top 3-5 players in the world, so no.

But BS is not from this draft class even though he's considered a rookie.


I know that,but were talking about players he is currently better than. There are guys in this class the have potential to surpass him. Ball, Markkanen and Tatum for sure.


This can go on and on.

But what if they don't? Mitchell can continue to improve also.
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Re: 2018 Draft Thread #6 

Post#1791 » by AshyLarrysDiaper » Fri Mar 16, 2018 6:09 am

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Re: 2018 Draft Thread #6 

Post#1792 » by bennjuiced34 » Fri Mar 16, 2018 6:26 am

I want Sexton. **** it. Build around that kid. Whatever his ceiling is, he'll maximize it.

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Re: 2018 Draft Thread #6 

Post#1793 » by DorO » Fri Mar 16, 2018 6:56 am

bennjuiced34 wrote:I want Sexton. **** it. Build around that kid. Whatever his ceiling is, he'll maximize it.

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Re: 2018 Draft Thread #6 

Post#1794 » by erlim » Fri Mar 16, 2018 8:20 am

Maybe we could move up a couple spots to get a decent pick by trading our 2018 pick, 2018 Pels pick, and 2019 pick unprotected.
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Re: 2018 Draft Thread #6 

Post#1795 » by Benedict Miller » Fri Mar 16, 2018 8:25 am

erlim wrote:Maybe we could move up a couple spots to get a decent pick by trading our 2018 pick, 2018 Pels pick, and 2019 pick unprotected.


For a chance at Doncic, I'm fine with that.

Edit: That pick needs to be protected though.
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Re: 2018 Draft Thread #6 

Post#1796 » by Axolotl » Fri Mar 16, 2018 8:44 am

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erlim wrote:Maybe we could move up a couple spots to get a decent pick by trading our 2018 pick, 2018 Pels pick, and 2019 pick unprotected.


For a chance at Doncic, I'm fine with that.


I wouldn't pay that much for a chance at Doncic. To surely get Doncic (or Ayton), maybe - but I don't have any idea on how the 2019 draft looks like, except that it's supposed to have good wing potential.
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Re: 2018 Draft Thread #6 

Post#1797 » by johnnyvann840 » Fri Mar 16, 2018 9:49 am

I was so not impressed with Ayton in the biggest game of his college career.. I think whoever takes him with the number one pick is going to be disappointed.
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Re: 2018 Draft Thread #6 

Post#1798 » by Benedict Miller » Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:37 am

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erlim wrote:Maybe we could move up a couple spots to get a decent pick by trading our 2018 pick, 2018 Pels pick, and 2019 pick unprotected.


For a chance at Doncic, I'm fine with that.


I wouldn't pay that much for a chance at Doncic. To surely get Doncic (or Ayton), maybe - but I don't have any idea on how the 2019 draft looks like, except that it's supposed to have good wing potential.


My bad, I wouldn't either. Did not pay attention to the "un" in unprotected.
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Re: 2018 Draft Thread #6 

Post#1799 » by Benedict Miller » Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:39 am

johnnyvann840 wrote:I was so not impressed with Ayton in the biggest game of his college career.. I think whoever takes him with the number one pick is going to be disappointed.


I think he's going to be a great player and have a great career barring injury.
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Re: 2018 Draft Thread #6 

Post#1800 » by Proven_Winner » Fri Mar 16, 2018 11:25 am

erlim wrote:Maybe we could move up a couple spots to get a decent pick by trading our 2018 pick, 2018 Pels pick, and 2019 pick unprotected.


Only if there was a surefire star prospect this draft. Can’t just give away picks like candy especially when you’re not all that good.

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