NBA Trade Thread #11

[WesPeace]

More rumours about LaMelo to Bulls maybe in summer... I mean I would have him as player on Bulls instead of Giddey, but LaMelo also is never healthy! Another huge risk to take on .

But sign and trade Giddey ( lets say 22M per), White and POR protected 1st rounder for LaMelo sounds decent offer.

Sent Vucevic to Dallas for Gafford and Marshall,

2 summer trades to reshape roster in first step, then we can follow up with 1-2 more trades to build roster who will fit together better.. Huerter, Collins, Terry, Phillips as possible trade pieces..

LaMelo, Lonzo, PWill, Buzelis, Gafford
Ayo, Huerter, Marshall, 25' D.P. , Smith
Young, Terry, Phillips, EJ Liddell, Collins

PWill - get him on strong diet and trim his body to leaner SF body type.. 25' Draft pick will depend on a lot of factors and if we get instant possible starter or bench guy in rookie year.

Imo, availability is a more important trait than shooting, defense, etc. None of that matters if you're a max player who rarely plays. Lamelo played 22 games last year and 36 the year before. 51 his first season. Giddey played 80 last year and 76 the year before. No way I trade Giddey, Coby AND a pick for a guy who's played less than 52 games 4 out of 5 years at 40 mill AAV. Just keep Giddey and let him improve. Ball looks like one of those guys where his style of play will keep him injured. We already have a Ball brother with mad injury issues, lol!

Thinking that Vuc for Gafford trade could happen, and a lot of that is because of Vuc's durability. Mavs have 3 injured big men at the same time right now. Durability is so under rated.

Gafford is younger and cheaper than Vucevic. Maybe they'd consider it before the deadline, but I bet they'd turn it down in the off season.

With LaMelo also keep in mind that he's never been on a winning team. Why is that? Bad teammates? Bad luck? Will he improve on a better team? Maybe...just something to keep in mind. I wouldn't trade for him, but that's my two cents.

Super risky move yes.. probably not worth it

[Infinity2152]

More rumours about LaMelo to Bulls maybe in summer... I mean I would have him as player on Bulls instead of Giddey, but LaMelo also is never healthy! Another huge risk to take on .

But sign and trade Giddey ( lets say 22M per), White and POR protected 1st rounder for LaMelo sounds decent offer.

Sent Vucevic to Dallas for Gafford and Marshall,

2 summer trades to reshape roster in first step, then we can follow up with 1-2 more trades to build roster who will fit together better.. Huerter, Collins, Terry, Phillips as possible trade pieces..

LaMelo, Lonzo, PWill, Buzelis, Gafford
Ayo, Huerter, Marshall, 25' D.P. , Smith
Young, Terry, Phillips, EJ Liddell, Collins

PWill - get him on strong diet and trim his body to leaner SF body type.. 25' Draft pick will depend on a lot of factors and if we get instant possible starter or bench guy in rookie year.

Imo, availability is a more important trait than shooting, defense, etc. None of that matters if you're a max player who rarely plays. Lamelo played 22 games last year and 36 the year before. 51 his first season. Giddey played 80 last year and 76 the year before. No way I trade Giddey, Coby AND a pick for a guy who's played less than 52 games 4 out of 5 years at 40 mill AAV. Just keep Giddey and let him improve. Ball looks like one of those guys where his style of play will keep him injured. We already have a Ball brother with mad injury issues, lol!

Thinking that Vuc for Gafford trade could happen, and a lot of that is because of Vuc's durability. Mavs have 3 injured big men at the same time right now. Durability is so under rated.

Gafford is younger and cheaper than Vucevic. Maybe they'd consider it before the deadline, but I bet they'd turn it down in the off season.

With LaMelo also keep in mind that he's never been on a winning team. Why is that? Bad teammates? Bad luck? Will he improve on a better team? Maybe...just something to keep in mind. I wouldn't trade for him, but that's my two cents.

Just saying that's much of the similar narrative with Lavine, lol. Not contributing to winning, but on bad teams with horrible defenders, no PG, and tons of injuries.

Vuc on an expiring for Gafford looks good in a few ways. Need to replace some of the scoring and three point shooting you lost with Luka. Vuc and AD is probably one of the highest scoring frontcourts in the league. AD at PF covers Vuc's weaknesses. Vuc is expiring, so cheaper doesn't mean much. And if you're worried about age, you're not trading Luka Doncic for Anthony Davis. They're trying to win now, and they still have Kyrie Irving too.

Plus, like I said, the durability. Gm's will differ, but after having to sign and start Moses Brown from the G-League and AD getting hurt his first week, I'm prioritizing getting a big who plays 70+ games.

[boozapalooza]

More rumours about LaMelo to Bulls maybe in summer... I mean I would have him as player on Bulls instead of Giddey, but LaMelo also is never healthy! Another huge risk to take on .

But sign and trade Giddey ( lets say 22M per), White and POR protected 1st rounder for LaMelo sounds decent offer.

Sent Vucevic to Dallas for Gafford and Marshall,

2 summer trades to reshape roster in first step, then we can follow up with 1-2 more trades to build roster who will fit together better.. Huerter, Collins, Terry, Phillips as possible trade pieces..

LaMelo, Lonzo, PWill, Buzelis, Gafford
Ayo, Huerter, Marshall, 25' D.P. , Smith
Young, Terry, Phillips, EJ Liddell, Collins

PWill - get him on strong diet and trim his body to leaner SF body type.. 25' Draft pick will depend on a lot of factors and if we get instant possible starter or bench guy in rookie year.

I think Coby & Pat could be in a trade package with Charlotte. Change of scenery could be good for them and both are Charlotte-area guys, it would be a bit if a homecoming for each of them. Cobys more durable than Lamelo which might appeal to Charlotte.

Lamelo should demand out of Charlotte and a move to a big market team to be the guy and play with his brother makes sense.

Coby/Pat for Lamelo works for salary purposes. Add whatever draft capital is needed in there (while keeping our 2025 pick). Given Lamelo’s durability concerns I don’t think the cost would be excessive.

I’d resign Giddey in this scenario if he keeps playing well.

Lamelo Matas Giddey and a top 10 pick is a pretty nice young core of under-24 guys.

[Dez]

LaMelo isn't coming to Chicago and especially not for a garbage package of White and Williams.

[WesPeace]

I woudnt trade PWill yet,as we just extended him.. if there is at least one smart dude on that pathetic coaching roster we have, take your time with Patrick and make him leaner, faster again. Make him work in offseason..

I want to see PWill at SF and Buzelis at PF next season playing together a lot. Then if that wont work either, put Patrick on trading block..

[Red8911]

I woudnt trade PWill yet,as we just extended him.. if there is at least one smart dude on that pathetic coaching roster we have, take your time with Patrick and make him leaner, faster again. Make him work in offseason..

I want to see PWill at SF and Buzelis at PF next season playing together a lot. Then if that wont work either, put Patrick on trading block..

PWill is 23 yrs old and has been in the league for 5 years already. How much time does he need?

Guy has been a disappointment and AK made a mistake to re sign him.

[sco]

I woudnt trade PWill yet,as we just extended him.. if there is at least one smart dude on that pathetic coaching roster we have, take your time with Patrick and make him leaner, faster again. Make him work in offseason..

I want to see PWill at SF and Buzelis at PF next season playing together a lot. Then if that wont work either, put Patrick on trading block..

PWill is 23 yrs old and has been in the league for 5 years already. How much time does he need?

Guy has been a disappointment and AK made a mistake to re sign him.

I'll say it another way. I don't think he has positive trade value right now. There is no real opportunity cost to see if he can be better next season, either to cement himself as a keeper or to up his trade value.

[boozapalooza]

LaMelo isn't coming to Chicago and especially not for a garbage package of White and Williams.

He could force his way here in a heartbeat. The real question is why should he waste away his career in Charlotte? And does Charlotte really wanna pay big $ for a guy whos played 90 total games over the last 3 years?

Its not gonna take some kind of godfather offer to get him

[Dan Z]

I woudnt trade PWill yet,as we just extended him.. if there is at least one smart dude on that pathetic coaching roster we have, take your time with Patrick and make him leaner, faster again. Make him work in offseason..

I want to see PWill at SF and Buzelis at PF next season playing together a lot. Then if that wont work either, put Patrick on trading block..

PWill is 23 yrs old and has been in the league for 5 years already. How much time does he need?

Guy has been a disappointment and AK made a mistake to re sign him.

I'll say it another way. I don't think he has positive trade value right now. There is no real opportunity cost to see if he can be better next season, either to cement himself as a keeper or to up his trade value.

Would it hurt to ask around the league to see if anyone is interested in him? I say that, but don't think AK would actually do that.

Awhile back I saw a random trade suggest of PW for John Collins. Depending on the off season I might try something like that. Utah might say no, but they might also think he's still young with potential.

[WesPeace]

I woudnt trade PWill yet,as we just extended him.. if there is at least one smart dude on that pathetic coaching roster we have, take your time with Patrick and make him leaner, faster again. Make him work in offseason..

I want to see PWill at SF and Buzelis at PF next season playing together a lot. Then if that wont work either, put Patrick on trading block..

PWill is 23 yrs old and has been in the league for 5 years already. How much time does he need?

Guy has been a disappointment and AK made a mistake to re sign him.

And yet, he is still just 23yrs old.. I'm in favour for one last chance for him. Trade value at the moment is low anyway..

[PJSteven22]

LaMelo isn't coming to Chicago and especially not for a garbage package of White and Williams.

He could force his way here in a heartbeat. The real question is why should he waste away his career in Charlotte? And does Charlotte really wanna pay big $ for a guy whos played 90 total games over the last 3 years?

Its not gonna take some kind of godfather offer to get him

He’s not on the last year of his deal so he doesn’t really have any leverage.

[MrSparkle]

I’m not a fan of the contract, but at this point, I also don’t see the point of trading Pat. Take a terrible contract back? Give up another pair of 2nds? He needs to rehab.

Patrick should focus on healing his foot, slimming down, and find a personal trainer who’s nowhere near the Bulls staff. I don’t know what this Bulls staff is doing, but they have a 0% hit rate. The Bulls with the most success left Chicago in the summer and did their own thing (Jimmy, Zach, Demar). Even Caruso, and Rose if I recall correctly.

Basically, Pat needs to go to LA and find some new-age enlightenment. Come back and forget the boy he was. Start referring to his self in the 3rd person.

The concept is very simple. Make open 3Ps and defend (things he demonstrated as a 19yo), and for the love of god work on his rebounding.

But otherwise stay healthy! Lose the weight!

[Dez]

LaMelo isn't coming to Chicago and especially not for a garbage package of White and Williams.

He could force his way here in a heartbeat. The real question is why should he waste away his career in Charlotte? And does Charlotte really wanna pay big $ for a guy whos played 90 total games over the last 3 years?

Its not gonna take some kind of godfather offer to get him

Who else is Charlotte going to pay? LaMelo prints money for them and is a marketing wet dream.

Charlotte aren't letting him go for anything short of a godfather offer.

[Ccwatercraft]

I’m not a fan of the contract, but at this point, I also don’t see the point of trading Pat. Take a terrible contract back? Give up another pair of 2nds? He needs to rehab.

Patrick should focus on healing his foot, slimming down, and find a personal trainer who’s nowhere near the Bulls staff. I don’t know what this Bulls staff is doing, but they have a 0% hit rate. The Bulls with the most success left Chicago in the summer and did their own thing (Jimmy, Zach, Demar). Even Caruso, and Rose if I recall correctly.

Basically, Pat needs to go to LA and find some new-age enlightenment. Come back and forget the boy he was. Start referring to his self in the 3rd person.

The concept is very simple. Make open 3Ps and defend (things he demonstrated as a 19yo), and for the love of god work on his rebounding.

But otherwise stay healthy! Lose the weight!

I don't think we have a choice at this point so I agree with you we have no option except to let it play out

[Rose2Boozer]

The Bulls trade Coby White to the Magic for their 2025 1st round pick(16 as of today).

[Dan Z]

The Bulls trade Coby White to the Magic for their 2025 1st round pick(16 as of today).

I'd probably do that, but would the Magic? Then at 16 draft BPA (preferably a PF or C).

It also depends on where the Bulls pick lands. If they end up at #8 or better and get someone like Tre Johnson then he can be the teams shooting guard going forward. If they end up at 8, but get someone like Maluach (Tankathon lists him at #8) then I'm not sure if they need a second pick in the draft (even though I'm not big on Maluach). If that happens maybe the Magic give up a future pick for Coby instead?

Also, who would the Magic give up to match Coby's salary?

[patryk7754]

unrelated to the bulls.....Windhorst said that KD is basically gone and that the suns will take his preferences into consideration. I think it would be cool if he went to the nuggets. I think it would be great to see him reunited with Westbrook and to see him play off Jokic. MPj and a couple of role players would work money wise for the trade.

[patryk7754]

If you hated Lavine because he wasn't a winner, I got bad news for you if you want LaMelo

[Muzbar]

LaMelo isn't coming to Chicago and especially not for a garbage package of White and Williams.

He could force his way here in a heartbeat. The real question is why should he waste away his career in Charlotte? And does Charlotte really wanna pay big $ for a guy whos played 90 total games over the last 3 years?

Its not gonna take some kind of godfather offer to get him

Does he have a NTC?

[Infinity2152]

Lamelo could probably "encourage" a trade pretty easily. He misses a ton of games, which makes it far easier for a team to decide to move on. He's been there 5 years, injured for 30+ games 3 of his first 4 seasons. If he miraculously has a healthy season, do you count on him to do it again the next year? Pelicans have to be close to ready to get rid of Zion too, equally talented.

His dad is Lavar Ball, who's been quiet, but one of the biggest mouths in the NBA and has been very outspoken about wanting his boys to play together. Doesn't have to get to the Jimmy Butler level, but they could make it where it's not worth it if they get a good trade offer. Think they would demand Giddey at least, though. They shouldn't be able to get Giddey, Coby and a pick.

With his injury history, I wouldn't trade Giddey straight up for him.