Stephen A. Smith: LeBron to join Bosh in Miami

Ajosu · Post #181 » by **Ajosu** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:08 pm

DuckIII wrote:Reporters are supposed to report the information they have. If what he is told changes, his reports will change.

True. But don't reporters have some say in what they report? Or do they often report information that contradicts itself, without at least pointing out that the two sources do so? Maybe that would just be too big of a buzz kill for him...

Scott May · Post #182 » by **Scott May** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:11 pm

This is all extremely frustrating, I agree, and it's worse than ever because of the coyness/disconnect that comes with Twitter.

But I'd rather have the reporters digging around, asking questions, getting a sense for what's possible, and then getting the information out there.

beasknees · Post #183 » by **beasknees** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:12 pm

As a Miami fan, I don't want to see Wade sharing the spotlight with James. Moreover, Micky Arison is not a big spender. He's not cheap by any means but he's no Buss.

At the same time, man that team would be something special. The best 1-2 punch at the wing ever, even greater than Jeffrey and Pippen. Heck, I could see it working too. Wade is really mature and would go out of his way to make LBJ comfortable.

LBJ has said he doesn't see himself as an assassin like Kobe, Jordan or Wade, but as a facilitator. Joining Wade would be logical. He'd prob average 11 or 12 assists a game on that team.

Ajosu · Post #184 » by **Ajosu** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:14 pm

DuckIII wrote:P.S. I hate it that I'm coming off as some sort of SAS apologist here. He sucks balls and is both a cause and symptom of the dumbing down of sports coverage.

I, for one, am not questioning whether he's giving opinion or just reporting what he heard. I'm just saying that, in typical Stephen A fashion, he's doing this to hype himself up. If he were to mention that this contradicts his earlier report, which someone might not know if they didn't follow the reports closely, it would put a damper on his hype train.

waffle · Post #185 » by **waffle** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:15 pm

better than Jeff and Pip? Watch yourself around here....6 titles is a hard b*tch to climb. I would say probably 12 or more first team defensive awards? 2 players practically a perfect fit for one another?

Call me in 10 years or so and we'll talk

Vertical Limit · Post #186 » by **Vertical Limit** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:15 pm

I'm a Heat fan and I would love for this to happen but come on now. :lol:

Stephen A. Smith? :lol:

Relax guys. Nothing to see here. :lol:

No one knows what Bosh or Lebron are doing. No one. That includes your buddy Chris Broussard, Chad Ford, WWW, and this joke of a report SAS.

I think Lebron still ends up in Chicago, and I hope Miami takes Bosh to even things out. There's a chance he ends up in Chicago as well though and then we're in trouble.

Post #187 » by **DJhitek** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:16 pm

I can't possibly fathom a scenario where the Bulls are completely shut out. No one wants to play here in Chicago?

Leto · Post #188 » by **Leto** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:18 pm

SAS is just formulating an opion from what he's heard. Of course, his opinion was strongly for NY last week. But thats not an issue because this is an evolving process. Id say most every sports writer says Miami has a chance, but this is out of the preponderance of opinion that says Lebron is going to, or should go to, the Bulls.

JackFinn · Post #189 » by **JackFinn** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:18 pm

If this happens, I wonder whether missing out on the big 3 would suck as much as SAS gaining a lot of clout. If LeBron+Bosh+Wade all ended up in Portland who would then trade Prybilla for Derrick Rose, at least I could say "haha suck it, SAS"

Vertical Limit · Post #190 » by **Vertical Limit** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:19 pm

beasknees wrote:As a Miami fan, I don't want to see Wade sharing the spotlight with James. Moreover, Micky Arison is not a big spender. He's not cheap by any means but he's no Buss.

At the same time, man that team would be something special. The best 1-2 punch at the wing ever, even greater than Jeffrey and Pippen. Heck, I could see it working too. Wade is really mature and would go out of his way to make LBJ comfortable.

LBJ has said he doesn't see himself as an assassin like Kobe, Jordan or Wade, but as a facilitator. Joining Wade would be logical. He'd prob average 11 or 12 assists a game on that team.

Arison has given the keys to Riley just for this free agency. They will be spending the money. I believe Arison was one of the main supporters of the luxury tax back in 1999 when it first came out, but he has said he will go over it for the right players.

Post #191 » by **DuckIII** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:20 pm

Scott May wrote:This is all extremely frustrating, I agree, and it's worse than ever because of the coyness/disconnect that comes with Twitter.

But I'd rather have the reporters digging around, asking questions, getting a sense for what's possible, and then getting the information out there.

+1

Leto · Post #192 » by **Leto** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:20 pm

Here's the thing. The Heat have the worst roster of all the cap space teams. The question is why the hell does Wade want to drag hinself and another FA down just so he can play with Beasley and Chalmers? If Im Bosh, Im telling Wade if he wants to pair up, it has to be in one of the other cities.

logical_art · Post #193 » by **logical_art** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:21 pm

What were his reported sources on this?

Post #194 » by **DuckIII** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:21 pm

Leto wrote:SAS is just formulating an opion from what he's heard.

Why do people keep saying this? SAS is specifically, unequivocally, saying that he is not reporting his opinion, but that he is reporting a fact.

If you believe he is opining, then you believe he is flat out lying.

Post #195 » by **DuckIII** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:22 pm

logical_art wrote:What were his reported sources on this?

That's the good question. And one, of course, we'll never know the answer to.

Red Larrivee · Post #196 » by **Red Larrivee** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:25 pm

I tend to think Stephen A. has credibility, mostly with Philadelphia related news like Iverson and what not. I'd never question him in that regard.

But it seems he was way off base with his last contribution to this free agent thing. People will be wrong, inevitable, but I don't know. I do believe though that Miami has a strong chance, but they don't have the space for Wade/Bron/Bosh, which a reporter from the Miami Herald on First Take today pretty much threw dirt on the report.

stillalive · Post #197 » by **stillalive** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:26 pm

Another thing, I laugh at him saying that he'll eat crow if this is false... no, he'll just say that "things changed." The source that he's had a business relationship with could just be Riley trying to put the heat in the LBJ sweepstakes discusion. I'll only start to pay attention to reports when the meetings take place. That should give us somewhat of a clear understanding on how he views his chances with different teams.

PJ Brown · Post #198 » by **PJ Brown** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:27 pm

DuckIII wrote:
Leto wrote:SAS is just formulating an opion from what he's heard.

Why do people keep saying this? SAS is specifically, unequivocally, saying that he is not reporting his opinion, but that he is reporting a fact.

If you believe he is opining, then you believe he is flat out lying.

This is where I think both you and Leto are wrong. Yes, it is more than an opinion. The man has sources, good, bad or otherwise. You are wrong to say it's fact, not opinion, the truth or a lie. It's not either or. The problem is not that Smith is an outright liar, it's that he's a showman. He has some info, and he's exaggerating it for effect. That's why nobody takes him seriously. He talks too loud and goes too far with his set in stone/take it to the bank routine.

And his statements about the Bulls probably are just opinions, as he never offers any evidence or logic to support them. He hasn't even thought it through with the Bulls. He's just following his logical trail. He says these guys go to MIA, Amare and JJ go to NYC (yeah, right) and thus, that means nothing for the Bulls.

MrSparkle · Post #199 » by **MrSparkle** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:28 pm

Since it's already happened numerous times (with 2000 FAs, and with trades where teams 'shut us out' so to speak by demanding more from our front office for some reason, like the Gasol trade), a shut-out is definitely on my mind.

Getting Thibodeau really helped things though. But the problem is it's a domino effect. If we get one of the elites (Lebron, Bosh, Amare, Dirk), then the next stud will follow. If Miami gets the stud, then the other will follow.

The worse max FAs are almost out of the picture. It's not in Bulls best interests to offer Boozer and Johnson each the max (nor can they, right now). They'd make sense for less than the max. But with Cuban, Kahn, Walsh... the Rockets... All these teams desperate to improve... Bulls are gonna be the last option with all the other guys basically being willing to S&T for a 6-year max while Reinsdorf is talking reduced rate, 5-years.

And EVERYBODY will take money over "winning." It'd be a border-line insult to offer Lebron $15M a year. He needs the max. Bulls got to do whatever they got to do to dump $3M if they want that second max player.

Anyway, the Bulls situation looks phenomenal at face value, but once the market starts its wild signing and trading, our excellent core and $29M cap space may become irrelevant.

JackFinn · Post #200 » by **JackFinn** » Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:28 pm

Considering the extreme certainty SASS is emoting, would you guys say that if he's right then no one else has good sources? Considering none of the journalists' source-based reports have hinted at this, the only other possibility I see is that this development just happened. And still, I'd have to hear other reporters confirming SASS' sentiments.