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[kodo]

Among the big complaints about MPJ was his defense.

And Wendell Carter Jr will almost certainly be the better defender between the two, but that just isn't how talent is measured in today's NBA. Nobody would prefer Rudy Gobert over James Harden or Lillard to be the best player on their team.

[MGB8]

The amount of hate the board gave MPJ and Bol Bol during draft season was ridiculous. Yet, they are showing that they are going to be good players in the NBA barring any health concerns.

I watch them and can’t help but think that this board has been brainwashed by the GarPax years. Way too much infatuation with players with limited ceilings and low risk guys.

This board is usually wrong when it comes to draft.. MPJ was such an obvious pick for the Bulls it’s sad we passed on that type of talent. The amount of people who were happy with Wendell was sad.. hell this board also hated Trae Young and was in love with JJJ.. but a lot of posters here do not follow the High School circuit and don’t realize how dominant MPJ was. The saddest part of all the Porters wanted to land in Chicago so badly they allowed the Bulls to take the only physical and be in charge of distributing the results around the league. Yet we still didn’t pick him. So happy Gar and pax are gone they lacked backbone and balls when it came to decision making. Always went the safe route.

Mark my words in a few years this board will be scoffing at Mikey Williams and Emani Bates for some odd reason.

I've got a formula for you:

1) Pick a popular prospect (Luka)
2) Find one weakness (he looks slow)
3) Focus only on that one weakness and argue that it'll be the one thing that will completely hamper his NBA career (he can never break down NBA defenses)
4) Downplay all strengths, then tie it back to his one weakness (how can he get a shot off or pass accurately if he's so unathletic and can never shake off his defender?)
5) Pick somebody with a marginally better trait but worse off everywhere else, obsess (JJJ's athleticism)

Not sure why you are going at JJJ. He has proven to be a very nice prospect and still has a very high ceiling. As a 20 year old 2nd year NBA player he put up 17.4 ppg along with 4.6 rebounds and 1.6 blocks in just 28.5 minutes, including shooting %39% from 3 on 6,5 3PA/G and 54% from 2. Low FTA rate so far, but that may be because he's young and not getting calls. JJJ is far from a bust. I liked him the most out of the draft in terms of bigs - well beyond Bamba, Bagley and Carter Jr., as a potential new age 4/5 who could give you everything. And there's signs (hopefully not destroyed by injury) that he will be just that.

Of course, Luka is doing more at the same young age - a basketaball savant. The draft-time fears regarding the lack of top end speed, explosion and athleticism hasn't been an issue for him. But we were coming off of Denzel Valentine, who had exceptional numbers in a tough NCAA division, and could reproduce that in the NBA due to athleticism, while also being a huge defensive liability. And that followed our try and fail with McDermott. Meanwhile, Dallas lets Luka take 9 3 point attempts per game despite him only making them at 31% - because it opens up other things and makes sense for them - but would drive folks here crazy, as would the 4.3 turnovers to the 9 assists.

Similarly, with Trae Young, we were coming off of failures with both Marquise Teague and Cam Payne due to their being too slight while not supremely athletic, despite their quickness, and we had Dunn who lots of folks still believed in.

[VolumePoster]

Among the big complaints about MPJ was his defense.

And Wendell Carter Jr will almost certainly be the better defender between the two, but that just isn't how talent is measured in today's NBA. Nobody would prefer Rudy Gobert over James Harden or Lillard to be the best player on their team.

I can’t fault the WCJ pick.

MPJ had just had back surgery. His brother and sister had both blown out their ACLs. He had looked hurt and rusty in limited college minutes. His talent was evident, but there are many players that look like world beaters in high school.

Everyone could see his talent. But picking him was the luxury of a team with talent in place, which could afford the considerable risk. We were not that team. Hopefully soon we will be.

[MrSparkle]

Among the big complaints about MPJ was his defense.

And Wendell Carter Jr will almost certainly be the better defender between the two, but that just isn't how talent is measured in today's NBA. Nobody would prefer Rudy Gobert over James Harden or Lillard to be the best player on their team.

I can’t fault the WCJ pick.

MPJ had just had back surgery. His brother and sister had both blown out their ACLs. He had looked hurt and rusty in limited college minutes. His talent was evident, but there are many players that look like world beaters in high school.

Everyone could see his talent. But picking him was the luxury of a team with talent in place, which could afford the considerable risk. We were not that team. Hopefully soon we will be.

Yep. And people still keep forgetting about the luxury Denver has by having a superstar and about 8 legit playoff players plus a slew of prospects. They’ve built and collected talent for 8 years straight since that Melo trade.

Bulls treaded water and then undersold an All-NBA wing. I know BPA is a good principle, but the Bulls weren’t in position to take a red-shirt project.

Had they kept Jimmy and taken him with a #13 Pick, that’d be great. Get yourself a Jimmy, Collins #16 and MPJ #13 - that’s how you build. Spurs, Pacers, Raptors, Nuggets — good orgs.

There is literally no reason to compare WCJ and MPJ. Bulls had a scrub roster that needed an anchor. A guy coming off a back surgery with career question marks is not an anchor. In DEN, he’s taken his time developing behind an armada of depth.

The biggest problem was the decision to go into an epic draft tank season with RoLo and Niko. Two veteran big men with no futures as Bulls. You want to add meaningless regular season wins? Play good veteran big men on expiring/near-expiring contracts. They won’t win you a 1st rd series, but they’ll clean up against all the loser scrub teams of the NBA. Luka was the catch.

[dougthonus]

Feel bad for Phoenix, which unless Portland completely **** the bed, will miss the playoffs despite rolling off 8 straight wins in the bubble and lose on the tiebreaker to get into the play-in.

Makes no sense to have play-in game for 8-9 but then decide 9th by tie breaker. You either should just roll with the 8 seed straight up in this scenario or all teams that are tied should be in the play-in and it should have had more flexibility.

[MGB8]

Feel bad for Phoenix, which unless Portland completely **** the bed, will miss the playoffs despite rolling off 8 straight wins in the bubble and lose on the tiebreaker to get into the play-in.

Makes no sense to have play-in game for 8-9 but then decide 9th by tie breaker. You either should just roll with the 8 seed straight up in this scenario or all teams that are tied should be in the play-in and it should have had more flexibility.

Might be better for them, long term, if they have their pick this year. They are one upgrade away from being a very, very dangerous team.

[MrSparkle]

Feel bad for Phoenix, which unless Portland completely **** the bed, will miss the playoffs despite rolling off 8 straight wins in the bubble and lose on the tiebreaker to get into the play-in.

Makes no sense to have play-in game for 8-9 but then decide 9th by tie breaker. You either should just roll with the 8 seed straight up in this scenario or all teams that are tied should be in the play-in and it should have had more flexibility.

Agreed. They slightly botched the plan.

I really wish they went with the original rumor and eliminated conferences for the bubble. Perhaps guarantee the top 4 of each conference their top-4 seed, but it’s so annoying seeing junk teams like the Magic and depleted Nets. As usual the EC 1st round is going to be a snooze/sweep-fest. I am not watching any of those East games. Adam Silver should’ve just pissed off everybody and done the fans a favor.

Would much rather see Portland or Phoenix, even Spurs or Kings. I think Spurs and Kings took their foot off the gas when they realized the long-shot odds of fighting for 1 team’s spot.

Thing is there were still 10 games left to be played. No way MEM, ORL and BRK would’ve kept their seeds at that rate in an open conference.

[ImSlower]

It would be pretty awesome if the Suns win this 8 in a row, get screwed by the awkward 8 seed thing (and playing one less game than Portland), jump into the top 3 in the lottery and grab the 'right' prospect, then come out with all cylinders firing next year. With the flattened lottery curve, winning your last 8 games and still being in the lottery is pretty awesome.

I really like Portland, otherwise I'd absolutely be wishing the Suns somehow snuck into the 8 seed and then played their hearts out losing to LA.

[MrSparkle]

Lillard really wants this game, but man... It's just a show-case of why a team with no wings has to fight 120% to compete, even with mediocre teams. They really miss Aminu, Harkless and Turner even though those are some of the most mediocre wings in the league. They simply went from C-tier wings to F-tier. The Nets have C (if not D)-tier wings and it's winning them the game. Zach Collins is poor man's Lauri, Melo can't defend a sack of potatoes, and Hezonja should've never been allowed to be drafted by an NBA organization. Poor CJ is playing with a back fracture, and the Nets are able to switch for size or speed mis-matches on every possession.

I've asked this about 100x in the last year, but why again did the Bulls ditch Luwawu? He cost the Bulls the price of an American Airlines complimentary peanut snack, and is basically 2x better than Hutchinson since he can hit 3Ps every other night. He's not doing anything new on the Nets. They just gave him a job. So stupid that they gave Valentine, Arci, Shaq, Felicio, and Kornet a spot over him. I understand some of it was managing guaranteed salaries, but at a certain point.... It's not completely insane to just waive a tremendously terrible (Felicio) or perennially injured (Valentine) player.

Meanwhile, I feel like the Nets are going to miss GarPax for the waiver-line bargain bin FAs.

[Hold That]

This board is usually wrong when it comes to draft.. MPJ was such an obvious pick for the Bulls it’s sad we passed on that type of talent. The amount of people who were happy with Wendell was sad.. hell this board also hated Trae Young and was in love with JJJ.. but a lot of posters here do not follow the High School circuit and don’t realize how dominant MPJ was. The saddest part of all the Porters wanted to land in Chicago so badly they allowed the Bulls to take the only physical and be in charge of distributing the results around the league. Yet we still didn’t pick him. So happy Gar and pax are gone they lacked backbone and balls when it came to decision making. Always went the safe route.

Mark my words in a few years this board will be scoffing at Mikey Williams and Emani Bates for some odd reason.

I've got a formula for you:

1) Pick a popular prospect (Luka)
2) Find one weakness (he looks slow)
3) Focus only on that one weakness and argue that it'll be the one thing that will completely hamper his NBA career (he can never break down NBA defenses)
4) Downplay all strengths, then tie it back to his one weakness (how can he get a shot off or pass accurately if he's so unathletic and can never shake off his defender?)
5) Pick somebody with a marginally better trait but worse off everywhere else, obsess (JJJ's athleticism)

Not sure why you are going at JJJ. He has proven to be a very nice prospect and still has a very high ceiling. As a 20 year old 2nd year NBA player he put up 17.4 ppg along with 4.6 rebounds and 1.6 blocks in just 28.5 minutes, including shooting %39% from 3 on 6,5 3PA/G and 54% from 2. Low FTA rate so far, but that may be because he's young and not getting calls. JJJ is far from a bust. I liked him the most out of the draft in terms of bigs - well beyond Bamba, Bagley and Carter Jr., as a potential new age 4/5 who could give you everything. And there's signs (hopefully not destroyed by injury) that he will be just that.

Of course, Luka is doing more at the same young age - a basketaball savant. The draft-time fears regarding the lack of top end speed, explosion and athleticism hasn't been an issue for him. But we were coming off of Denzel Valentine, who had exceptional numbers in a tough NCAA division, and could reproduce that in the NBA due to athleticism, while also being a huge defensive liability. And that followed our try and fail with McDermott. Meanwhile, Dallas lets Luka take 9 3 point attempts per game despite him only making them at 31% - because it opens up other things and makes sense for them - but would drive folks here crazy, as would the 4.3 turnovers to the 9 assists.

Similarly, with Trae Young, we were coming off of failures with both Marquise Teague and Cam Payne due to their being too slight while not supremely athletic, despite their quickness, and we had Dunn who lots of folks still believed in.

Marquees Teague and Payne or even Dunn had the historical season stat wise Trae Young had. It was obvious to many on this board the kid would be special. The same with Luka at his age dominating grown men in Europe being an MVP and winning awards at a young age since Pau Gasol.

That’s the issue I feel like people tend to “overthink” and outsmart something so simple. Basketball isn’t that complicated and the cream of the crop in that draft was obvious. Luka Trae and MPJ were touted as the cream of the crop before that college year. Only Bagley has looked like a future bust. To have a chance to get that type of talent at 7 is why Arti has the Nuggets where they are at, and why Paxson has been replaced by him. We’ve seen a decade of “safe choices”.. and we didn’t even draft Payne or Dunn, both of them were trash on the teams they were drafted by. And the bulls traded for them as if they had some spurs like culture and could resurrect their careers.

[MrSparkle]

I've got a formula for you:

1) Pick a popular prospect (Luka)
2) Find one weakness (he looks slow)
3) Focus only on that one weakness and argue that it'll be the one thing that will completely hamper his NBA career (he can never break down NBA defenses)
4) Downplay all strengths, then tie it back to his one weakness (how can he get a shot off or pass accurately if he's so unathletic and can never shake off his defender?)
5) Pick somebody with a marginally better trait but worse off everywhere else, obsess (JJJ's athleticism)

Not sure why you are going at JJJ. He has proven to be a very nice prospect and still has a very high ceiling. As a 20 year old 2nd year NBA player he put up 17.4 ppg along with 4.6 rebounds and 1.6 blocks in just 28.5 minutes, including shooting %39% from 3 on 6,5 3PA/G and 54% from 2. Low FTA rate so far, but that may be because he's young and not getting calls. JJJ is far from a bust. I liked him the most out of the draft in terms of bigs - well beyond Bamba, Bagley and Carter Jr., as a potential new age 4/5 who could give you everything. And there's signs (hopefully not destroyed by injury) that he will be just that.

Of course, Luka is doing more at the same young age - a basketaball savant. The draft-time fears regarding the lack of top end speed, explosion and athleticism hasn't been an issue for him. But we were coming off of Denzel Valentine, who had exceptional numbers in a tough NCAA division, and could reproduce that in the NBA due to athleticism, while also being a huge defensive liability. And that followed our try and fail with McDermott. Meanwhile, Dallas lets Luka take 9 3 point attempts per game despite him only making them at 31% - because it opens up other things and makes sense for them - but would drive folks here crazy, as would the 4.3 turnovers to the 9 assists.

Similarly, with Trae Young, we were coming off of failures with both Marquise Teague and Cam Payne due to their being too slight while not supremely athletic, despite their quickness, and we had Dunn who lots of folks still believed in.

Marquees Teague and Payne or even Dunn had the historical season stat wise Trae Young had. It was obvious to many on this board the kid would be special. The same with Luka at his age dominating grown men in Europe being an MVP and winning awards at a young age since Pau Gasol.

That’s the issue I feel like people tend to “overthink” and outsmart something so simple. Basketball isn’t that complicated and the cream of the crop in that draft was obvious. Luka Trae and MPJ were touted as the cream of the crop before that college year. Only Bagley has looked like a future bust. To have a chance to get that type of talent at 7 is why Arti has the Nuggets where they are at, and why Paxson has been replaced by him. We’ve seen a decade of “safe choices”.. and we didn’t even draft Payne or Dunn, both of them were trash on the teams they were drafted by. And the bulls traded for them as if they had some spurs like culture and could resurrect their careers.

Well said. I often felt like GarPax were reaching for things that simply weren't there. IMO they spent too much time researching personality types and psychological factors instead of simply evaluating whether a guy was tall (for his position), fast and good at dribbling and shooting a basketball (regardless of position).

But somewhere in their evaluations, they clearly spent so much time analyzing guys' psyche that they managed to botch the simple 3-check above, which has nothing to do with personality.

I still think Jimmy was a happy accident. They got him to be a defensive cog. The fact that they gave up on him and traded him young, basically because his ego grew large, it was very telling that they really never believed in his offensive game. Otherwise they'd hang onto the ride.

[Hold That]

Not sure why you are going at JJJ. He has proven to be a very nice prospect and still has a very high ceiling. As a 20 year old 2nd year NBA player he put up 17.4 ppg along with 4.6 rebounds and 1.6 blocks in just 28.5 minutes, including shooting %39% from 3 on 6,5 3PA/G and 54% from 2. Low FTA rate so far, but that may be because he's young and not getting calls. JJJ is far from a bust. I liked him the most out of the draft in terms of bigs - well beyond Bamba, Bagley and Carter Jr., as a potential new age 4/5 who could give you everything. And there's signs (hopefully not destroyed by injury) that he will be just that.

Of course, Luka is doing more at the same young age - a basketaball savant. The draft-time fears regarding the lack of top end speed, explosion and athleticism hasn't been an issue for him. But we were coming off of Denzel Valentine, who had exceptional numbers in a tough NCAA division, and could reproduce that in the NBA due to athleticism, while also being a huge defensive liability. And that followed our try and fail with McDermott. Meanwhile, Dallas lets Luka take 9 3 point attempts per game despite him only making them at 31% - because it opens up other things and makes sense for them - but would drive folks here crazy, as would the 4.3 turnovers to the 9 assists.

Similarly, with Trae Young, we were coming off of failures with both Marquise Teague and Cam Payne due to their being too slight while not supremely athletic, despite their quickness, and we had Dunn who lots of folks still believed in.

Marquees Teague and Payne or even Dunn had the historical season stat wise Trae Young had. It was obvious to many on this board the kid would be special. The same with Luka at his age dominating grown men in Europe being an MVP and winning awards at a young age since Pau Gasol.

That’s the issue I feel like people tend to “overthink” and outsmart something so simple. Basketball isn’t that complicated and the cream of the crop in that draft was obvious. Luka Trae and MPJ were touted as the cream of the crop before that college year. Only Bagley has looked like a future bust. To have a chance to get that type of talent at 7 is why Arti has the Nuggets where they are at, and why Paxson has been replaced by him. We’ve seen a decade of “safe choices”.. and we didn’t even draft Payne or Dunn, both of them were trash on the teams they were drafted by. And the bulls traded for them as if they had some spurs like culture and could resurrect their careers.

Well said. I often felt like GarPax were reaching for things that simply weren't there. IMO they spent too much time researching personality types and psychological factors instead of simply evaluating whether a guy was tall (for his position), fast and good at dribbling and shooting a basketball (regardless of position).

But somewhere in their evaluations, they clearly spent so much time analyzing guys' psyche that they managed to botch the simple 3-check above, which has nothing to do with personality.

I still think Jimmy was a happy accident. They got him to be a defensive cog. The fact that they gave up on him and traded him young, basically because his ego grew large, it was very telling that they really never believed in his offensive game. Otherwise they'd hang onto the ride.

Of course jimmy was an accident. They thought they were getting a humble quiet kid from Tomball Tx.

[MrSparkle]

The Blazers defense is so bad. I really would rather see the Suns give the Lakers a little run. I do like Lillard and the city of Portland, but man. I feel like I'm watching Kornet, Lauri, Arci and Zach defend at the 2-5 spots.

[MrSparkle]

Marquees Teague and Payne or even Dunn had the historical season stat wise Trae Young had. It was obvious to many on this board the kid would be special. The same with Luka at his age dominating grown men in Europe being an MVP and winning awards at a young age since Pau Gasol.

That’s the issue I feel like people tend to “overthink” and outsmart something so simple. Basketball isn’t that complicated and the cream of the crop in that draft was obvious. Luka Trae and MPJ were touted as the cream of the crop before that college year. Only Bagley has looked like a future bust. To have a chance to get that type of talent at 7 is why Arti has the Nuggets where they are at, and why Paxson has been replaced by him. We’ve seen a decade of “safe choices”.. and we didn’t even draft Payne or Dunn, both of them were trash on the teams they were drafted by. And the bulls traded for them as if they had some spurs like culture and could resurrect their careers.

Well said. I often felt like GarPax were reaching for things that simply weren't there. IMO they spent too much time researching personality types and psychological factors instead of simply evaluating whether a guy was tall (for his position), fast and good at dribbling and shooting a basketball (regardless of position).

But somewhere in their evaluations, they clearly spent so much time analyzing guys' psyche that they managed to botch the simple 3-check above, which has nothing to do with personality.

I still think Jimmy was a happy accident. They got him to be a defensive cog. The fact that they gave up on him and traded him young, basically because his ego grew large, it was very telling that they really never believed in his offensive game. Otherwise they'd hang onto the ride.

Of course jimmy was an accident. They thought they were getting a humble quiet kid from Tomball Tx.

Ha! ..exactly.

[drosereturn]

Among the big complaints about MPJ was his defense.

And Wendell Carter Jr will almost certainly be the better defender between the two, but that just isn't how talent is measured in today's NBA. Nobody would prefer Rudy Gobert over James Harden or Lillard to be the best player on their team.

Yeah it was painful to see wcj supporters at the draft just like the bagley guys.
I knew this guy was a bust since he was a traditional center that played defense.
To give up a future star that begged to become a Bull is just ridiculous. Did Garpax even see MPJ workout or what?
I bet they just got bribed by coach K saying this guy is a stud. Its almost Bulls prefer a modest decent floor player over someone who strives for greatness.

[Andi Obst]

The Blazers defense is so bad. I really would rather see the Suns give the Lakers a little run. I do like Lillard and the city of Portland, but man. I feel like I'm watching Kornet, Lauri, Arci and Zach defend at the 2-5 spots.

Yeah, the Blazers don't have a single useful wing defender. Seems problematic when you are about to play a playoff series against...*checks notes*...LeBron James.

[wonderboy2]

The Blazers defense is so bad. I really would rather see the Suns give the Lakers a little run. I do like Lillard and the city of Portland, but man. I feel like I'm watching Kornet, Lauri, Arci and Zach defend at the 2-5 spots.

Yeah, the Blazers don't have a single useful wing defender. Seems problematic when you are about to play a playoff series against...*checks notes*...LeBron James.

Ironically Mr sparkle mentioned Kornet, Lauri, Archi and Lavine as being bad defenders. But each one of those guys are better defensively than Sato. Also all of the Portland players are better defensively than Sato. Could you imagine Sato trying to guard Lavert? It would’ve been a 50 peice performance. Sato is one of the worst on ball defensive guards I’ve seen in a long time. Dude sucks ass on defense. Say what you will about Lavine and Archi but at least they can contain dribble penetration. It’s an Ipass when Sato is out there.

[wonderboy2]

Among the big complaints about MPJ was his defense.

And Wendell Carter Jr will almost certainly be the better defender between the two, but that just isn't how talent is measured in today's NBA. Nobody would prefer Rudy Gobert over James Harden or Lillard to be the best player on their team.

Yeah it was painful to see wcj supporters at the draft just like the bagley guys.
I knew this guy was a bust since he was a traditional center that played defense.
To give up a future star that begged to become a Bull is just ridiculous. Did Garpax even see MPJ workout or what?
I bet they just got bribed by coach K saying this guy is a stud. Its almost Bulls prefer a modest decent floor player over someone who strives for greatness.

A lot of teams passed on Porter because of injury concerns. I really wanted the bulls to draft Porter. I was one of the only members on this board begging for him. That being said Carter was a good pick. Dude is almost averting a double double at 20-21 years of age and already a difference maker on defense. Pretty solid pick. Honestly the bulls have solid young talent with Lavine, White, Carter, Markannan( if he regained confidence), Hutch( if he can stay healthy). Porter is a good peice but can’t stay healthy. Dunn defense was unbelievable before he got injured. The problem is they went after the wrong free agents. Satos a scub and a Bitch. Thad had an OK year but they could’ve gone another direction in free agency.

[Andi Obst]

The Blazers defense is so bad. I really would rather see the Suns give the Lakers a little run. I do like Lillard and the city of Portland, but man. I feel like I'm watching Kornet, Lauri, Arci and Zach defend at the 2-5 spots.

Yeah, the Blazers don't have a single useful wing defender. Seems problematic when you are about to play a playoff series against...*checks notes*...LeBron James.

Ironically Mr sparkle mentioned Kornet, Lauri, Archi and Lavine as being bad defenders. But each one of those guys are better defensively than Sato. Also all of the Portland players are better defensively than Sato. Could you imagine Sato trying to guard Lavert? It would’ve been a 50 peice performance. Sato is one of the worst on ball defensive guards I’ve seen in a long time. Dude sucks ass on defense. Say what you will about Lavine and Archi but at least they can contain dribble penetration. It’s an Ipass when Sato is out there.

Your blatant trolling was fun for a little bit, but you're going to the block list now.

[wonderboy2]

Yeah, the Blazers don't have a single useful wing defender. Seems problematic when you are about to play a playoff series against...*checks notes*...LeBron James.

Ironically Mr sparkle mentioned Kornet, Lauri, Archi and Lavine as being bad defenders. But each one of those guys are better defensively than Sato. Also all of the Portland players are better defensively than Sato. Could you imagine Sato trying to guard Lavert? It would’ve been a 50 peice performance. Sato is one of the worst on ball defensive guards I’ve seen in a long time. Dude sucks ass on defense. Say what you will about Lavine and Archi but at least they can contain dribble penetration. It’s an Ipass when Sato is out there.

Your blatant trolling was fun for a little bit, but you're going to the block list now.

How is it trolling, it’s facts. Posters on here can bash better players on this team such as Carter, Lavine, White. But Sato is this boards golden boy when the guy was terrible. People on here bash Lavines defense but in reality it was better than Satos. Even the analyst were criticizing Satos defense this year. But this board believes he can guard 3 positions when he sucks at guarding all 3 position on the ball. Ask any other boards fans if they want Sato and the answer would be no.