NBA Trade Thread #13

[Chi town]

The Bulls trade White and Vucevic to the Wolves for Gobert and 2026 first round pick.

Nah. Gobert is declining quick and way overpaid.

[Chi town]

What could Ayo and Smith get us?

[Muzbar]

The Bulls trade White and Vucevic to the Wolves for Gobert and 2026 first round pick.

Nah. Gobert is declining quick and way overpaid.

Also Minnesota can't trade their 2026 FRP.

[sco]

What could Ayo and Smith get us?

Hard to say. Don't think most GM's would value Ayo too highly, but I'd be happy to try.

I think the right plan is to take a big swing at the deadline if a sub-30 legit #1 option comes available and use all of our expirings and as many of our picks needed to make something happen. Making that kind of deal will be harder after our expirings are gone or resigned.

Plan B should be using expirings, Ayo, Smith plus Por 1st to get a starting-caliber C

[kodo]

What could Ayo and Smith get us?

A solid bench player.

[leo921]

crazy trade idea

Boston trades Brown
Bulls trade White/Vuc/Williams/top ten protected 2027 1st rounder/Port pick

Boston takes a gap year, aims for a high lotto pick, cuts long term salary, and add picks.

Bulls get a top 20-30 guy to kick off this new version of the Bulls Built around Giddy/Brown/Noa/Matas. that lineup is long switchable athletic and with a solid center and added shooting off the bench can start making the future better finally.

[sco]

crazy trade idea

Boston trades Brown
Bulls trade White/Vuc/Williams/top ten protected 2027 1st rounder/Port pick

Boston takes a gap year, aims for a high lotto pick, cuts long term salary, and add picks.

Bulls get a top 20-30 guy to kick off this new version of the Bulls Built around Giddy/Brown/Noa/Matas. that lineup is long switchable athletic and with a solid center and added shooting off the bench can start making the future better finally.

I'd do that deal but BOS could get more for Brown...also, I think they are hell-bent on keeping Brown, White, Tatum core together because that is a championship group. All 2-way studs in their prime.

[ChettheJet]

The Celtics don't appear to be fools. They don't take A gap year but several. Are they supposed to resign Vucevic? Do they think Coby White is worth a big long term contract? Bulls fans think Williams is garbage but the Celtics see real promise? That 2027 pick almost assured to be out of the lottery when the Bulls fill in even more around Brown, Matas and Giddey and nobody has taken the Bulls up on that PORT pick because nobody sees it as anything but a pair of 2nds.

[leo921]

The Celtics don't appear to be fools. They don't take A gap year but several. Are they supposed to resign Vucevic? Do they think Coby White is worth a big long term contract? Bulls fans think Williams is garbage but the Celtics see real promise? That 2027 pick almost assured to be out of the lottery when the Bulls fill in even more around Brown, Matas and Giddey and nobody has taken the Bulls up on that PORT pick because nobody sees it as anything but a pair of 2nds.

Celtics are very expensive and need to retool, Brown is 53m this year and Tatum is 54m and both get more expensive over the years. That's like 2/3 of the cap for two guys. A trade most likely for Brown is coming in the next 2 years or so. Derrick White(28m)/Coby(resign 30m per)/Tatum(54m) is cheaper then with Brown and is still good. Vuc would just expire cutting salary, same for Simons. Now Celtics have options between picks, players and cap room away from 2nd apron to make rooms and depending on follow up moves can be a good place in the next 2-3 years.

[dougthonus]

The Celtics don't appear to be fools. They don't take A gap year but several. Are they supposed to resign Vucevic? Do they think Coby White is worth a big long term contract? Bulls fans think Williams is garbage but the Celtics see real promise? That 2027 pick almost assured to be out of the lottery when the Bulls fill in even more around Brown, Matas and Giddey and nobody has taken the Bulls up on that PORT pick because nobody sees it as anything but a pair of 2nds.

Celtics are very expensive and need to retool, Brown is 53m this year and Tatum is 54m and both get more expensive over the years. That's like 2/3 of the cap for two guys. A trade most likely for Brown is coming in the next 2 years or so. Derrick White(28m)/Coby(resign 30m per)/Tatum(54m) is cheaper then with Brown and is still good. Vuc would just expire cutting salary, same for Simons. Now Celtics have options between picks, players and cap room away from 2nd apron to make rooms and depending on follow up moves can be a good place in the next 2-3 years.

I mean they can just keep Derrick White anyway. The real question is will Coby + a 25M dollar player be better than Brown. That seems like a pretty dicey proposition.

[MikeDC]

I don't know what I'd do if I were the Celtics. White is 31. Writing off this season, he'll be 32 when they start 26-27 and Brown will be 30.

They'll be
White, Pritchard
Brown
Tatum, Hauser
+ a few other guys and pretty close to the tax.

I think if I were them, I'd be looking to get younger now. I sure as hell wouldn't be trading for Patrick Williams, but I'd be looking pretty hard at reasonable offers for White and/or Brown. Especially if the deal could get me under the tax this year so I didn't have to worry about the repeater as much when I might need to go back over the tax in 26-27.

[sco]

I don't know what I'd do if I were the Celtics. White is 31. Writing off this season, he'll be 32 when they start 26-27 and Brown will be 30.

They'll be
White, Pritchard
Brown
Tatum, Hauser
+ a few other guys and pretty close to the tax.

I think if I were them, I'd be looking to get younger now. I sure as hell wouldn't be trading for Patrick Williams, but I'd be looking pretty hard at reasonable offers for White and/or Brown. Especially if the deal could get me under the tax this year so I didn't have to worry about the repeater as much when I might need to go back over the tax in 26-27.

IDK, with a healthy Tatum back next season, I think the trio of White, Tatum, Brown is a contending core for a couple of season. I have a hard time imagining BOS messing with it...especially since they seemed to take pains to get rid of the peripheral pieces this season.

[kodo]

I think Brown is overrated and if they can get a better player for him they should, but I still think they're going to plan to compete when Tatum comes back vs nuking it. Unfortunately even with a year off, achilles tear doesn't have players coming back 100%. Durant only played half seasons for the next 3 years and his unavailability while taking up a massive part of the cap was the big reason the Brooklyn thing just failed.

[patryk7754]

i've started seeing a decent amount of "reports" that teams are interested in Sabonis. These were random posts I saw while scrolling social media so I can't speak to the validity to the reports, but usually it means something. On top of that, Sabonis being the next star to be moved makes the most sense.

I saw the Warriors and Thunder are interested. For the Thunder Cason Wallace, Hartenstein, and 3 1sts were mentioned. Regardless of who the player being traded is, I would guess the Thunder have the best chance of landing them.

For us to be in the convo it would probably take White, Williams and Vuc going to the third team , plus 2-3 1sts. But are we in a place where it would be worth giving up that type of draft capital for a player......Giddey/Huerter/Matas/Nao/Sabonis....is that a playoff team? I think making a big trade ultimately comes down to does adding a certain player make us a playoff team. I think a Sabonis trade does that, especially this season. But, we also have to consider what moves what we will be able to make to complement the trade to continue to progress as contenders in the east.

[sco]

i've started seeing a decent amount of "reports" that teams are interested in Sabonis. These were random posts I saw while scrolling social media so I can't speak to the validity to the reports, but usually it means something. On top of that, Sabonis being the next star to be moved makes the most sense.

I saw the Warriors and Thunder are interested. For the Thunder Cason Wallace, Hartenstein, and 3 1sts were mentioned. Regardless of who the player being traded is, I would guess the Thunder have the best chance of landing them.

For us to be in the convo it would probably take White, Williams and Vuc going to the third team , plus 2-3 1sts. But are we in a place where it would be worth giving up that type of draft capital for a player......Giddey/Huerter/Matas/Nao/Sabonis....is that a playoff team? I think making a big trade ultimately comes down to does adding a certain player make us a playoff team. I think a Sabonis trade does that, especially this season. But, we also have to consider what moves what we will be able to make to complement the trade to continue to progress as contenders in the east.

I would be happy if Sabonis went to OKC. That price, coupled with losing Hartenstein, is exactly the sort of move that I would want for them to become a weaker team. Sabonis is essentially a taller Giddey, who we all know didn't work well for them. I'd jump all over that deal if I were Sacto...IMO Hartenstein would instantly upgrade that team's prospects. If there were a way to get in on that deal and trade expirings and a first to reroute Hartenstein, I'd be all over than.

NFW would I want Sabonis. He is like adding Vuc and a terrible fit with Giddey. So that's my way of saying, expect the Bulls to offer 4 1sts.

[Chi town]

Vuc and Pat for Gobert?

We get out of Pat’s contract but take on 3 years of Gobert at 36M per instead of 4 years of Pat at 18.

I’d prefer Ayo and POR pick for Beringer.

[poolshark52]

How about Ayo for Walker Kessler straight up? or alternatively Ayo and Jalen for Walker Kessler and Kyle Anderson. Utah going younger and Ayo arguably the best player in the trade. Both he and and Kessler on the final year of their deal. Utah has seemed sort of lukewarm about Kessler.

[sco]

How about Ayo for Walker Kessler straight up? or alternatively Ayo and Jalen for Walker Kessler and Kyle Anderson. Utah going younger and Ayo arguably the best player in the trade. Both he and and Kessler on the final year of their deal. Utah has seemed sort of lukewarm about Kessler.

I would gladly do that deal, but despite your comment about Utah seeming lukewarm on him, I have a hard time believing that they would take that deal, or that another team wouldn't put a more attractive deal on the table.

[AleksandarN]

I saw this. I’m no way the Bulls would do this would they? I highly doubt the source.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/nba/top-stories/nba-trade-rumors-denver-nuggets-looking-to-bag-21-million-chicago-bulls-star-to-strengthen-championship-push/amp_articleshow/123873832.cms

The Denver Nuggets are reportedly pursuing Ayo Dosunmu in a multi-team trade aimed at bolstering their roster alongside Nikola Jokic and Jamal Murray. This move would have ripple effects for all teams involved, while statistical evidence supports the potential benefits. Below is a breakdown of how the trade would unfold and who stands to gain the most.

Under recent mock trade scenarios, the Denver Nuggets would acquire Ayo Dosunmu and Justin Champagnie from the Chicago Bulls. In return, the Bulls would receive Zeke Nnaji, Peyton Watson, a 2026 second-round pick, and a 2028 first-round swap with top-10 protection from Denver. Additionally, the Washington Wizards would receive a 2032 second-round pick from the Denver Nuggets as part of the deal.

[sco]

I saw this. I’m no way the Bulls would do this would they? I highly doubt the source.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/nba/top-stories/nba-trade-rumors-denver-nuggets-looking-to-bag-21-million-chicago-bulls-star-to-strengthen-championship-push/amp_articleshow/123873832.cms

The Denver Nuggets are reportedly pursuing Ayo Dosunmu in a multi-team trade aimed at bolstering their roster alongside Nikola Jokic and Jamal Murray. This move would have ripple effects for all teams involved, while statistical evidence supports the potential benefits. Below is a breakdown of how the trade would unfold and who stands to gain the most.

Under recent mock trade scenarios, the Denver Nuggets would acquire Ayo Dosunmu and Justin Champagnie from the Chicago Bulls. In return, the Bulls would receive Zeke Nnaji, Peyton Watson, a 2026 second-round pick, and a 2028 first-round swap with top-10 protection from Denver. Additionally, the Washington Wizards would receive a 2032 second-round pick from the Denver Nuggets as part of the deal.

It's interesting. Nnaji's deal runs 2 seasons and I'm not too excited about him as a player. Watson is an expiring...don't know anything about him. Really, the deal is all about the value of that '28 swap...certainly anything can happen, but I would assume the chances of executing on the swap are less than 50/50 (just a bet on a Joker injury). I'm not a huge Ayo fan, but he seems to have the most potential than anything else in that deal.