NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22.

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For every top lottery prospect in this draft, you can find former players who are vouching for them. It's not meaningful.

I dont know how meaningful it is. But when a good talent evaluator like IT says Michael Porter is the best player in the draft, it is a strong counterpoint to a vocal RealGM minority that insists he is total garbage.

You're quoting the wrong IT.

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Oh man. My bad. Good catch. I guess that invalidates the point.

[realEAST]

For every top lottery prospect in this draft, you can find former players who are vouching for them. It's not meaningful.

I dont know how meaningful it is. But when a good talent evaluator like IT says Michael Porter is the best player in the draft, it is a strong counterpoint to a vocal RealGM minority that insists he is total garbage.

I am not sure I'd put my hand in fire for Isiah Thomas being a good talent evaluator...his Knicks stint is still legendary, but in Billy King way

[Jcool0]

Say what you will about Isiah as a GM, but he was good when it came to drafting. It's interesting to see him give Porter tips on his dribble. Also when asked about where he sees himself in the league Porter never once mentioned defense. Not a big deal though...he's known for his scoring at this point.

He said one of the best players in the league actually.

I know I watched the video. He talks about scoring and never once mentions defense.

Was he supposed to?

[TheSuzerain]

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Doncic is the patrician's #1 pick

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For every top lottery prospect in this draft, you can find former players who are vouching for them. It's not meaningful.

I dont know how meaningful it is. But when a good talent evaluator like IT says Michael Porter is the best player in the draft, it is a strong counterpoint to a vocal RealGM minority that insists he is total garbage.

I am not sure I'd put my hand in fire for Isiah Thomas being a good talent evaluator...his Knicks stint is still legendary, but in Billy King way

Doesnt matter anyway. It was Boston IT that said it. Zeke is a good drafter though, no doubt.

[NecessaryEvil]

For every top lottery prospect in this draft, you can find former players who are vouching for them. It's not meaningful.

I dont know how meaningful it is. But when a good talent evaluator like IT says Michael Porter is the best player in the draft, it is a strong counterpoint to a vocal RealGM minority that insists he is total garbage.

I am not sure I'd put my hand in fire for Isiah Thomas being a good talent evaluator...his Knicks stint is still legendary, but in Billy King way

He drafted Damon Stoudamire, T-Mac....etc

[Red8911]

Don’t believe all these rumors or insiders. Sure teams will have a lot of trade talk,but many times they don’t fall through. So just wait to see if it actually gets done,don’t rely on the insiders. Paxson probably doesn’t even know if he’s trading or who he’s picking yet lol.

[bennjuiced34]

Because you have HOF players like Isiah Thomas bring up the KD comps, or all stars like Brandon Roy- who actually coached him, talked about his advanced skills, you have reports coming out of teams drafting in the top 5 or even top 2, saying they are in love with him, and yet posters here say they see nothing in him that would indicate he's worth a lottery pick. Kind of a stark contrast.

I can see if people say, well, yes, he looks like a he could a great prospect, but just not sure if he's better than Young or Bamba or Carter. But no, people are saying that they don't see any hint of greatness in him at all. Which is just such a 180 degree difference of opinion than many pro analysts, that is hard to fathom, other than some people just don't like him, and will never give him credit no matter what he does in the nba.

I quite frankly don't give a rip what Thomas or Roy think of Porter. He has high school accolades and that plays a big part here. I know what I see I tape and I question the stardom label that gets attached to him.

I think he has a role in the NBA as a scorer and feel he's a Rudy Gay type prospect. Just like you won't see me using Garnett to pimp up Bamba.

That's the curious part to me- Isiah Thomas is a HOF player. You'd think his opinion would carry some weight. Same with Brandon Roy- he coached Porter. If anyone knows what he's about, it would be him. Yet you say you couldn't care less what they say. Baffling.

It's not that Isiah Thomas. It's current IT.

What is Roy supposed to say other than glow about him? It's his coach.

[NecessaryEvil]

Don’t believe all these rumors or insiders. Sure teams will have a lot of trade talk,but many times they don’t fall through. So just wait to see if it actually gets done,don’t rely on the insiders. Paxson probably doesn’t even know if he’s trading or who he’s picking yet lol.

if you say so...

He wouldn't be doing a good job of being in charge of basketball op's if he didn't

[Darius Miles Davis]

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If the reports of Bamba and JJJ stonewalling Memphis are true, that range of 4-7 could be directly related to where Memphis takes Carter. Whether that means staying put at 4 or moving down remains to be seen.

Regardless, if Memphis has been forced to settle on Carter, the Bulls are direct beneficiaries (unless you love Carter, which I know a couple do).

I would agree with you if either Porter or Young’s stock were soaring, but:

1) Ayton
2) Bagley/Doncic
3) Doncic/Bagley
4) Carter
5) Bamba/Bamba
6) Jackson/Bamba

How are we really the direct beneficiary of this? At least those of us that would love a crack at Bamba or Jackson?


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[bennjuiced34]

Batum, KG, IT...what they say about prospects mean jack squat in terms of how you should evaluate a player. It's nice to hear but it doesn't mean much.

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I quite frankly don't give a rip what Thomas or Roy think of Porter. He has high school accolades and that plays a big part here. I know what I see I tape and I question the stardom label that gets attached to him.

I think he has a role in the NBA as a scorer and feel he's a Rudy Gay type prospect. Just like you won't see me using Garnett to pimp up Bamba.

That's the curious part to me- Isiah Thomas is a HOF player. You'd think his opinion would carry some weight. Same with Brandon Roy- he coached Porter. If anyone knows what he's about, it would be him. Yet you say you couldn't care less what they say. Baffling.

It's not that Isiah Thomas. It's current IT.

What is Roy supposed to say other than glow about him? It's his coach.

The general objection to a few examples of people going off in extreme negative mode is still something to consider.

[johnnyvann840]

I dont know how meaningful it is. But when a good talent evaluator like IT says Michael Porter is the best player in the draft, it is a strong counterpoint to a vocal RealGM minority that insists he is total garbage.

I am not sure I'd put my hand in fire for Isiah Thomas being a good talent evaluator...his Knicks stint is still legendary, but in Billy King way

Doesnt matter anyway. It was Boston IT that said it. Zeke is a good drafter though, no doubt.

Is he though? When did he ever make a great pick that went against conventional logic?

Serious question. I'm asking because I can't think of any really.

[bennjuiced34]

That's the curious part to me- Isiah Thomas is a HOF player. You'd think his opinion would carry some weight. Same with Brandon Roy- he coached Porter. If anyone knows what he's about, it would be him. Yet you say you couldn't care less what they say. Baffling.

It's not that Isiah Thomas. It's current IT.

What is Roy supposed to say other than glow about him? It's his coach.

The general objection to a few examples of people going off in extreme negative mode is still something to consider.

And I'm on your side here in the sense that Porter won't suck. He's a legit NBA prospect and assuming health, will have a long career because he has a knack for scoring. I just have doubts about how 'special' he is.

[NecessaryEvil]

Batum, KG, IT...what they say about prospects mean jack squat in terms of how you should evaluate a player. It's nice to hear but it doesn't mean much.

Add in Charles Barkley, who says Bamba will be the best player in the draft

but no...the votes of confidence don't mean much, at all

[Darius Miles Davis]

I wonder if this Bamba talk is just a smokescreen to hide interest in another guy. My guess would be Jaren Jackson Jr. If Ayton, Bagley and Doncic go in the first 3, then swapping 4 and 7 with Memphis could be in play. And I'm sure Garpax have the book on the kid: staff ties to MSU are so deep.

Bulls have always loved great defensive bigs/bigs that can switch

They've NEVER had a prospect like Mo Bamba, so I'm curious as to why you guys think MO Bamba is a smokescreen lol

I think it’s their wishful thinking. KC usually reports very little and only reports solid info near draft time. Now the questions are 1) can we compete a trade, and 3) if so, what is this trade?


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[bad knees]

So when the Bulls draft Bamba to pair him with Lauri, which of them will guard the 4 when the other team goes small? I don't think either is capable of doing so, and I have yet to see any team that can keep two bigs on the floor when a good team goes small against them. I have seen enough of Lauri to believe that he can guard the small ball 5's. I don't think he's capable of guarding the 4 in this situation. I know that Bamba's fans think he is capable of guarding on the perimeter, but I have seen no evidence of this, and I highly doubt that he will be capable of guarding a small ball 4. So one of them will have to come off the court.

The only big in this draft who can guard small ball 4's is JJJ. He and Lauri can play next to each other, all game, against any lineup that the other team wants to throw out there. And if a team goes small, Lauri and JJJ will be able to take advantage of mismatches - maybe not right now, but they are young and can develop post games. Plus JJJ can already shoot the 3, and he is a better rim defender than Bamba because of his athleticism, quickness and leaping ability. If the Bulls trade up to 4, the best option is JJJ.

[johnnyvann840]

I dont know how meaningful it is. But when a good talent evaluator like IT says Michael Porter is the best player in the draft, it is a strong counterpoint to a vocal RealGM minority that insists he is total garbage.

I am not sure I'd put my hand in fire for Isiah Thomas being a good talent evaluator...his Knicks stint is still legendary, but in Billy King way

He drafted Damon Stoudamire, T-Mac....etc

Stoudamire was a beast at AZ a lot of people thought he would go top 5 and IT picked him at 7..... and T-Mac was a generational talent obvious to everyone. Neither were exactly picks that would make anyone a good talent evaluator or drafter.

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I am not sure I'd put my hand in fire for Isiah Thomas being a good talent evaluator...his Knicks stint is still legendary, but in Billy King way

Doesnt matter anyway. It was Boston IT that said it. Zeke is a good drafter though, no doubt.

Is he though? When did he ever make a great pick that went against conventional logic?

Serious question. I'm asking because I can't think of any really.

Wilson Chandler going in the first round against all projection.

Anyway ESPN ranked him the best

https://www.google.com/amp/s/basketball.realgm.com/wiretap-amp/232776/Study-Finds-Isiah-Thomas-As-Best-Drafting-GM-Since-1989

[TyrusRose2425]

Would you like a trade up?