Melo 12: RealGM takes over the United Center

Post #1821 » by **AshyLarrysDiaper** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 3:34 am

mschmidt64 wrote:Butler only makes 700k more than Snell.

There is no sense in trading Butler instead of Snell. Find that 700k somewhere else.

I'm saying.

jc23 · Post #1822 » by **jc23** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 3:35 am

PaKii94 wrote:
Chicago-Bull-E wrote:Gonna trade Jimmy Butler. Who is starting at 2 for us next year?

Better get a nice 1st rounder for him.

eff this might mean that they are high on snell

or worse... KIRK????? the horror beginss

play on words? lol

Baller93 · Post #1823 » by **Baller93** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 3:35 am

Umm why would we trade Jimmy if he only makes 2M and is our best perimeter defender? We need underpaid guys like that to round out the roster if we're bringing over Melo. Why not trade the unguaranteed contracts we have instead to free up cap space?

DRoseCantStop · Post #1824 » by **DRoseCantStop** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 3:35 am

Bye Butler if that's the case. When you get the opportunity to pair up a top 5 player with a MVP, you don't hesitate.

My question is, why aren't they trading Snell?

Post #1825 » by **AshyLarrysDiaper** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 3:36 am

PaKii94 wrote:
mschmidt64 wrote:Butler only makes 700k more than Snell.

There is no sense in trading Butler instead of Snell. Find that 700k somewhere else.

snell has 3 yrs left, butler has 1. thats what the reasoning would be. but I dont want buckets to go

Years 2 and 3 don't matter. The cap this summer does.

Chicago-Bull-E · Post #1826 » by **Chicago-Bull-E** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 3:37 am

PaKii94 wrote:
mschmidt64 wrote:Butler only makes 700k more than Snell.

There is no sense in trading Butler instead of Snell. Find that 700k somewhere else.

snell has 3 yrs left, butler has 1. thats what the reasoning would be. but I dont want buckets to go

That would make sense if the guys were close to being in the same level, but they currently aren't.

Keep jimmy for the extra year, his role will be reduced and his salary demand will probably be lowered as a result. 6-8 million for him isn't bad.

Post #1827 » by **GimmeDat** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 3:37 am

Again, the tweet said 'they would have to', not that they are.

I'm sure they'd much rather dump Snell than Butler.

On the flipside though, surely we wouldn't be able to pay Butler once his contract's up? Especially if we use the MLE on someone this off-season. Maybe keeping Snell is smarter in that sense.

jc23 · Post #1828 » by **jc23** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 3:37 am

GimmeDat wrote:S***, trading Jimmy would be quite the pill to swallow. I'm sure it would've been tough for Thibs to accept losing him.

Obviously we would lose leverage in trying to trade him, but what sort of asset's do you think we could get back for him? He is a very valuable player on cheap money, and will likely be seeking an affordable contract into the future as well.

i assume a unprotected 1st to a team that can absorb him.

Red Larrivee · Post #1829 » by **Red Larrivee** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 3:37 am

Baller93 wrote:Umm why would we trade Jimmy if he only makes 2M and is our best perimeter defender? We need underpaid guys like that to round out the roster if we're bringing over Melo. Why not trade the unguaranteed contracts we have instead to free up cap space?

Butler has one more season of being underpaid. Then you're talking about him possibly being wildly overpaid for an elite defender who is often an offensive crutch.

If we get Melo and Butler stays, this season is a big audition for him. Chicago really needs a shooting guard who can make shots and score at a decent clip. He doesn't necessarily have to break his man down, but 11-13 points per 36 isn't cutting it.

LobosJordan · Post #1830 » by **LobosJordan** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 3:37 am

Butler ins't going anywhere.

Mirotic or McDermott, one of them are.

jc23 · Post #1831 » by **jc23** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 3:38 am

GimmeDat wrote:Again, the tweet said 'they would have to', not that they are.

I'm sure they'd much rather dump Snell than Butler.

On the flipside though, surely we wouldn't be able to pay Butler once his contract's up? Especially if we use the MLE on someone this off-season. Maybe keeping Snell is smarter in that sense.

dont forget about the new tv deal coming in 2 seasons. we will not be paying the repeater anytime soon.

Droseisthe1 · Post #1832 » by **Droseisthe1** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 3:38 am

Mods, has a thread ever reached 100 pages in a day?

PaKii94 · Post #1833 » by **PaKii94** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 3:39 am

Sigh good signs from melo... then having to hear we might not have jimmah next to him...

nomad · Post #1834 » by **nomad** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 3:39 am

Damn guys... the Bulls are STILL with Melo? This has to be a good sign, no?!?! I'd expect if he were just using us or even not leaning Chi, that he'd be in and on to the next like Lebron and Dwade in 2010...

Benedict Miller · Post #1835 » by **Benedict Miller** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 3:39 am

Jimmy might struggle offensively, but he does the best job guarding Lebron.

johnnyvann840 · Post #1836 » by **johnnyvann840** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 3:39 am

Droseisthe1 wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/TheBullsShow/status/484177195380658177[/tweet]

Hmmmm. Either Alex Kennedy is a hyperbolic, sensationalistic hack exaggerating and making things up, or KC Johnson is asleep at the wheel when it comes to covering the Bulls. although KC never breaks any real news, I'm going with Kennedy being a sensationalistic hack.

So now KC is saying that Derrick had a scheduled workout and did not work out for Melo.... and that he was never even at the dinner. We have quite the contradicting stories here.

jc23 · Post #1837 » by **jc23** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 3:40 am

Droseisthe1 wrote:Mods, has a thread ever reached 100 pages in a day?

sheet, 12 hours

Post #1838 » by **AshyLarrysDiaper** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 3:40 am

Red Larrivee wrote:
If we get Melo and Butler stays, this season is a big audition for him. Chicago really needs a shooting guard who can make shots and score at a decent clip. He doesn't necessarily have to break his man down, but 11-13 points per 36 isn't cutting it.

We wouldn't need more than 11-13 PPG out of our SG with Melo on the roster. Especially if we shore up our bench scoring (Dougie and/or Mirotic).

SteelerSpartan · Post #1839 » by **SteelerSpartan** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 3:40 am

F*** having to Trade Jimmy

Not enough people appreciate what Deng and Jimmy do for this team

Chitownbulls · Post #1840 » by **Chitownbulls** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 3:40 am

Jimmy is a free agent next year....probably worth 6-7mil....cya later! You can find someone to start for a bulls team with Melo.