Trade Thread: Armchair GMs welcomed

panthermark · Post #1821 » by **panthermark** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:36 am

If possible (I know White can't be traded at the moment)....who does White and LaVine for Beal...right now?

BTW, I like both White and LaVine....but I also like Beal....quite a bit.

dpucane · Post #1822 » by **dpucane** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 2:36 pm

panthermark wrote:If possible (I know White can't be traded at the moment)....who does White and LaVine for Beal...right now?

BTW, I like both White and LaVine....but I also like Beal....quite a bit.

No brainer

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Post #1823 » by **coldfish** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 2:49 pm

Miami is actively trying to upgrade its roster.

Dion Waiters is making $12m this year and $12.5m next year. He would be a great 6th man for the Bulls and solidify the 2/3 spot without jeopardizing the 2021 flexibility.

The Bulls could trade Dunn and Valentine for him.

Miami wouldn't do this but a 3rd team looking to tank would save $5m this year and $12.5m next year while getting two roster spots filled for this year. OKC for Paul or Washington for Beal both fit.

Sato / White ........ / Arci
Lavine / Waiters...../ Blakeney
Otto ................../ Hutch
Lauri / Thad
Wendell ............. / Kornett / Gafford

Is a rotation I would feel pretty good about.

sco · Post #1824 » by **sco** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:08 pm

coldfish wrote:Miami is actively trying to upgrade its roster.

Dion Waiters is making $12m this year and $12.5m next year. He would be a great 6th man for the Bulls and solidify the 2/3 spot without jeopardizing the 2021 flexibility.

The Bulls could trade Dunn and Valentine for him.

Miami wouldn't do this but a 3rd team looking to tank would save $5m this year and $12.5m next year while getting two roster spots filled for this year. OKC for Paul or Washington for Beal both fit.

Sato / White ........ / Arci
Lavine / Waiters...../ Blakeney
Otto ................../ Hutch
Lauri / Thad
Wendell ............. / Kornett / Gafford

Is a rotation I would feel pretty good about.

Waiters isn't a guy I think we want to add to the roster. He's a ball dominant non-shooter.

Post #1825 » by **coldfish** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:11 pm

sco wrote:
coldfish wrote:Miami is actively trying to upgrade its roster.

Dion Waiters is making $12m this year and $12.5m next year. He would be a great 6th man for the Bulls and solidify the 2/3 spot without jeopardizing the 2021 flexibility.

The Bulls could trade Dunn and Valentine for him.

Miami wouldn't do this but a 3rd team looking to tank would save $5m this year and $12.5m next year while getting two roster spots filled for this year. OKC for Paul or Washington for Beal both fit.

Sato / White ........ / Arci
Lavine / Waiters...../ Blakeney
Otto ................../ Hutch
Lauri / Thad
Wendell ............. / Kornett / Gafford

Is a rotation I would feel pretty good about.

Waiters isn't a guy I think we want to add to the roster. He's a ball dominant non-shooter.

Beggars can't be choosers. Its not like Chicago is trading much. He would come off the bench and 60% of his shots last year were 3's.

StunnerKO · Post #1826 » by **StunnerKO** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:45 pm

He’s got skinny again he’s gonna be in his bag lol

Waiters shot 37% from 3 last year on 6.6 attempts when he returned from injury . He’s shot almost 35% from 3 for his career

Bulls get waiters

Heat

Paul
Dunn
Felicio

Thunder

Dragic
Olynyk
Picks

drosereturn · Post #1827 » by **drosereturn** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 3:49 pm

coldfish wrote:
sco wrote:
coldfish wrote:Miami is actively trying to upgrade its roster.

Dion Waiters is making $12m this year and $12.5m next year. He would be a great 6th man for the Bulls and solidify the 2/3 spot without jeopardizing the 2021 flexibility.

The Bulls could trade Dunn and Valentine for him.

Miami wouldn't do this but a 3rd team looking to tank would save $5m this year and $12.5m next year while getting two roster spots filled for this year. OKC for Paul or Washington for Beal both fit.

Sato / White ........ / Arci
Lavine / Waiters...../ Blakeney
Otto ................../ Hutch
Lauri / Thad
Wendell ............. / Kornett / Gafford

Is a rotation I would feel pretty good about.

Waiters isn't a guy I think we want to add to the roster. He's a ball dominant non-shooter.

Beggars can't be choosers. Its not like Chicago is trading much. He would come off the bench and 60% of his shots last year were 3's.

Meh trade but rather gamble on Waiters potential than stuck with those players.

Post #1828 » by **HomoSapien** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 10:38 pm

coldfish wrote:Miami is actively trying to upgrade its roster.

Dion Waiters is making $12m this year and $12.5m next year. He would be a great 6th man for the Bulls and solidify the 2/3 spot without jeopardizing the 2021 flexibility.

The Bulls could trade Dunn and Valentine for him.

Miami wouldn't do this but a 3rd team looking to tank would save $5m this year and $12.5m next year while getting two roster spots filled for this year. OKC for Paul or Washington for Beal both fit.

Sato / White ........ / Arci
Lavine / Waiters...../ Blakeney
Otto ................../ Hutch
Lauri / Thad
Wendell ............. / Kornett / Gafford

Is a rotation I would feel pretty good about.

I was thinking about this scenario myself recently. My concern would be that Waiters, at 6'4", would force LaVine to play more SF than we'd like.

Repeat 3-peat · Post #1829 » by **Repeat 3-peat** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:20 pm

I'm not much of a Waiters fan but I'm down for Dunn/Val for him.

He's an expiring and would provide a scoring punch off the bench. Dunn doesn't have a future here nor does he have much value, Valentine(whom I actually like) missed the entire season so who knows how he'll play.

logical_art · Post #1830 » by **logical_art** » Sat Jul 13, 2019 11:25 pm

coldfish wrote:Miami is actively trying to upgrade its roster.

Dion Waiters is making $12m this year and $12.5m next year. He would be a great 6th man for the Bulls and solidify the 2/3 spot without jeopardizing the 2021 flexibility.

The Bulls could trade Dunn and Valentine for him.

Miami wouldn't do this but a 3rd team looking to tank would save $5m this year and $12.5m next year while getting two roster spots filled for this year. OKC for Paul or Washington for Beal both fit.

Sato / White ........ / Arci
Lavine / Waiters...../ Blakeney
Otto ................../ Hutch
Lauri / Thad
Wendell ............. / Kornett / Gafford

Is a rotation I would feel pretty good about.

Waiters doesnt have the length for SF. 8'2" standing reach. He's also a chucker with a sub .5 career TS%. I don't think he'd help at all.

sco · Post #1831 » by **sco** » Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:38 pm

The guy I'm hoping we nab is Duncan Robinson from MIA:

Duncan Robinson scored 26 points on 9-of-21 shooting (4-of-4 FTs) against the Pelicans on Saturday, adding eight rebounds, three assists, three steals, two blocks and four 3-pointers in 36 minutes.

I would be thrilled if we were able get them Dunn (and other filler) for a bigger contract and got Robinson as part of that deal.

MalagaBulls · Post #1832 » by **MalagaBulls** » Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:15 am

panthermark wrote:If possible (I know White can't be traded at the moment)....who does White and LaVine for Beal...right now?

BTW, I like both White and LaVine....but I also like Beal....quite a bit.

Beal may be on the block this season:

Read on Twitter

MGB8 · Post #1833 » by **MGB8** » Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:38 am

MalagaBulls wrote:
panthermark wrote:If possible (I know White can't be traded at the moment)....who does White and LaVine for Beal...right now?

BTW, I like both White and LaVine....but I also like Beal....quite a bit.
Beal may be on the block this season:

Read on Twitter

Bulls could pull a Clippers on him, but won’t, and given his impending super-Max, shouldn’t.

Dallas, otoh, would be a team that probably should throw a ton at getting Beal ... to team with Luka and Porzingis.

Raptors another team who could justify going all in.

A dark horse might be Memphis... they have assets and Ja, JJJ, Clarke, Brooks and Beal?

bad knees · Post #1834 » by **bad knees** » Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:50 am

Atlanta just waived Jaylen Adams, so Trae Young is the only PG on their roster. They are looking to sign a PG but the pickings are slim. And they have 5 SFs on their roster, including Hunter and Reddish. Is there a trade possible? Only possible player that would work for the Bulls is SF DeAndre Bembry. He is an expiring contract (end of rookie contract) at $2.6 M this year. He doesn't shoot 3's very well, but he is great at defense and can get to the rim. If we traded Dunn for Bembry, we would clear up $2.7 M in cap space to sign the UniKornet. Possible deal?

https://www.ajc.com/sports/basketball/hawks-release-jaylen-adams/puxKp0cECt6st4ODEd2xzJ/

I think the Bulls would like to do better, but this may be the best they can do. I agree that Miami with Waiters is another possible angle, especially as the Heat negotiate to get Paul and/or Beal.

MalagaBulls · Post #1835 » by **MalagaBulls** » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:28 am

MGB8 wrote:
MalagaBulls wrote:
panthermark wrote:If possible (I know White can't be traded at the moment)....who does White and LaVine for Beal...right now?

BTW, I like both White and LaVine....but I also like Beal....quite a bit.
Beal may be on the block this season:

Read on Twitter

Bulls could pull a Clippers on him, but won’t, and given his impending super-Max, shouldn’t.

Dallas, otoh, would be a team that probably should throw a ton at getting Beal ... to team with Luka and Porzingis.

Raptors another team who could justify going all in.

A dark horse might be Memphis... they have assets and Ja, JJJ, Clarke, Brooks and Beal?

Actually Beal has 2 years left on his 5 year contract. He would be eligible for the supermax in his age 28-29 season. That would not be terribly old.

MalagaBulls · Post #1836 » by **MalagaBulls** » Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:34 am

Haha, how about a fantasy trade of Beal <--> Dunn/LaVine.

It works in the trade machine but I think Washington would need a sweetner.

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y6k9ddxs

Ccwatercraft · Post #1837 » by **Ccwatercraft** » Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:28 pm

it would be weird with beal, sato, porter on our team, would we be the chicago wizards then?

Ccwatercraft · Post #1838 » by **Ccwatercraft** » Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:30 pm

bad knees wrote:Atlanta just waived Jaylen Adams, so Trae Young is the only PG on their roster. They are looking to sign a PG but the pickings are slim. And they have 5 SFs on their roster, including Hunter and Reddish. Is there a trade possible? Only possible player that would work for the Bulls is SF DeAndre Bembry. He is an expiring contract (end of rookie contract) at $2.6 M this year. He doesn't shoot 3's very well, but he is great at defense and can get to the rim. If we traded Dunn for Bembry, we would clear up $2.7 M in cap space to sign the UniKornet. Possible deal?

https://www.ajc.com/sports/basketball/hawks-release-jaylen-adams/puxKp0cECt6st4ODEd2xzJ/

I think the Bulls would like to do better, but this may be the best they can do. I agree that Miami with Waiters is another possible angle, especially as the Heat negotiate to get Paul and/or Beal.

I saw maybe 3 or 4 ATL games this season, and Bembry certainly didn't stick out, has someone seen something that I haven't?

MalagaBulls · Post #1839 » by **MalagaBulls** » Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:32 pm

Ccwatercraft wrote:it would be weird with beal, sato, porter on our team, would we be the chicago wizards then?

Actually I floated the idea over on the Wizards board & they wanted an AD or PG haul. Multiple 1st's, pick swaps, plus LaVine. That ain't gonna happen.

drosestruts · Post #1840 » by **drosestruts** » Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:15 pm

Ccwatercraft wrote:
bad knees wrote:Atlanta just waived Jaylen Adams, so Trae Young is the only PG on their roster. They are looking to sign a PG but the pickings are slim. And they have 5 SFs on their roster, including Hunter and Reddish. Is there a trade possible? Only possible player that would work for the Bulls is SF DeAndre Bembry. He is an expiring contract (end of rookie contract) at $2.6 M this year. He doesn't shoot 3's very well, but he is great at defense and can get to the rim. If we traded Dunn for Bembry, we would clear up $2.7 M in cap space to sign the UniKornet. Possible deal?

https://www.ajc.com/sports/basketball/hawks-release-jaylen-adams/puxKp0cECt6st4ODEd2xzJ/

I think the Bulls would like to do better, but this may be the best they can do. I agree that Miami with Waiters is another possible angle, especially as the Heat negotiate to get Paul and/or Beal.

I saw maybe 3 or 4 ATL games this season, and Bembry certainly didn't stick out, has someone seen something that I haven't?

Dunn & Felicio for Crabbe works. Bulls take on more money this season and get much-needed wing depth that is expiring. Atlanta saves money this season, gets a backup point guard plus a year look at Dunn in their system. Felicio is just contract filler.