NBA Trade Thread

[jordanwilliams6]

I’d like to keep LaVine in any potential deal for Simmons because I’m really really intrigued about the pairing and what it could become. Both are young enough with holes to have considerable growth left, and the prospect on the fast break are tantalising.

[sco]

Maybe we should be targeting Richardson on Philly. He has upside that wasn't realized in Philly and will likely opt out after next season, so the risk is low, but we could get a good look at him. I'd see if we could see if Otto or Lauri could bring him back in trade. Obviously there would need to be filler back if it was for Otto.

[ChettheJet]

I moved this over here because it is a better place for it

Like why the hell is Wendell's trade value so horrible? Man I cannot believe a promising 2nd yr from Duke is not even worth moving up 3 spots in the weakest draft OF ALL TIME. Just such a horrible pick at the time giving me nightmare till this day when Mikal was there.

This Bulls roster is a joke. You trade everyone and you cant even get Ben Simmons. No wonder they cant make any trades bc all their players from Lavine to Felicio stink. And your not even getting number 1 picks despite being horrible so your just stuck 10th seed treadmill team like the Hornets for eternity.

Calm done a second, everybody. I think the problem people are having with the Bulls roster is they want a huge return, moving up to #1 or adding #2 and overhauling everything right F'n now and that's just not possible. The Bulls are basically one deep at every position. Gafford filling his role being the exception. Once you get past the starters, Hutchison, Young, Kornet, Arcidacono, Satoransky, Felicio, Harrison, Mokoka, even Valentine and Dunn aren't going to push the Bulls starters and they aren't going to go anywhere else and make much of a difference.

So stop imagining the BIG BOLD DEAL and start to look for the smaller more realistic moves that will shore up the bench, cut some dead weight and allow the #4 and #44 picks to get into the rotation the way White and Gafford did as rookies, wait for Porter and Felicio to move on and look at taking a big step in 2021.

It's nearly impossible to trade Porter, they'd only get a similar big one year contract back or they have to get one player they want to retain and 3-4 to match the salary that they want no part of, or Wiggins, Harris, Horford with longer deals. Stop the fantasy that somebody will want Felicio.

Focus on finding trades for Young, and maybe Satoransky being realistic
The agents for Valentine and Dunn must be working on S&T deals for them think about where they fill a need and who those teams could send back

[Chi town]

I moved this over here because it is a better place for it

Like why the hell is Wendell's trade value so horrible? Man I cannot believe a promising 2nd yr from Duke is not even worth moving up 3 spots in the weakest draft OF ALL TIME. Just such a horrible pick at the time giving me nightmare till this day when Mikal was there.

This Bulls roster is a joke. You trade everyone and you cant even get Ben Simmons. No wonder they cant make any trades bc all their players from Lavine to Felicio stink. And your not even getting number 1 picks despite being horrible so your just stuck 10th seed treadmill team like the Hornets for eternity.

Calm done a second, everybody. I think the problem people are having with the Bulls roster is they want a huge return, moving up to #1 or adding #2 and overhauling everything right F'n now and that's just not possible. The Bulls are basically one deep at every position. Gafford filling his role being the exception. Once you get past the starters, Hutchison, Young, Kornet, Arcidacono, Satoransky, Felicio, Harrison, Mokoka, even Valentine and Dunn aren't going to push the Bulls starters and they aren't going to go anywhere else and make much of a difference.

So stop imagining the BIG BOLD DEAL and start to look for the smaller more realistic moves that will shore up the bench, cut some dead weight and allow the #4 and #44 picks to get into the rotation the way White and Gafford did as rookies, wait for Porter and Felicio to move on and look at taking a big step in 2021.

It's nearly impossible to trade Porter, they'd only get a similar big one year contract back or they have to get one player they want to retain and 3-4 to match the salary that they want no part of, or Wiggins, Harris, Horford with longer deals. Stop the fantasy that somebody will want Felicio.

Focus on finding trades for Young, and maybe Satoransky being realistic
The agents for Valentine and Dunn must be working on S&T deals for them think about where they fill a need and who those teams could send back

Easier said than done.

With cap dropping Young and Sato will be tough to deal considering their 3rd year partial guarantees.

[Rose2Boozer]

I'd offer the Warriors Carter Jr. and Hutchison for the second pick in the first round, but I wouldn't feel comfortable offering them Carter Jr. and the fourth pick. I think the below starting lineup is a needle mover.

White
Lavine
Avdija
Markkanen
Wiseman

[gobullschi]

I'd offer the Warriors Carter Jr. and Hutchison for the second pick in the first round, but I wouldn't feel comfortable offering them Carter Jr. and the fourth pick. I think the below starting lineup is a needle mover.

White
Lavine
Avdija
Markkanen
Wiseman

Why would GS do that?

[NecessaryEvil]

BULLS TRADE : Coby White, Lauri Markkanen & the #4 pick (possibly LaMelo Ball)

for

Joel Embiid


G Sato / Dunn
G Lavine / Valentine
F Otto Porter Jr. / Hutchinson
F T. Young / Kornet
C Embiid / Carter Jr. / Stafford


26 yrs old, still young enough to grow with Lavine (25) into their primes. Extend Zach. True #1a/#1b options. Add shooters & PG. Wait until 21/22 to add a legit 3rd option.

[Rose2Boozer]

I'd offer the Warriors Carter Jr. and Hutchison for the second pick in the first round, but I wouldn't feel comfortable offering them Carter Jr. and the fourth pick. I think the below starting lineup is a needle mover.

White
Lavine
Avdija
Markkanen
Wiseman

Why would GS do that?

Wendell Carter Jr. is a very young talented big man prospect. Let's not act as if he's some valueless scrub. Carter Jr. is far from it. Hutchinson would fit nice as well, as a backup for Wiggins. I don't think Carter Jr. and Hutchinson for Wiseman is a fleece deal in favor of the Bulls by no stretch.

Curry
Thompson
Wiggins
Green
Carter Jr.

Paschall
Chriss
Hutchinson
Lee

[gobullschi]

BULLS TRADE : Coby White, Lauri Markkanen & the #4 pick (possibly LaMelo Ball)

for

Joel Embiid


G Sato / Dunn
G Lavine / Valentine
F Otto Porter Jr. / Hutchinson
F T. Young / Kornet
C Embiid / Carter Jr. / Stafford


26 yrs old, still young enough to grow with Lavine (25) into their primes. Extend Zach. True #1a/#1b options. Add shooters & PG. Wait until 21/22 to add a legit 3rd option.

I wish.

[Grodoboldo]

I still maintain that we should try to get Portland's 1st rounder. Something like Sato+Young+44th for Ariza+Hood+16th. Gives them immediate help (in very reasonable deals) in exchange for dead money and the pick.

[wonderboy2]

BULLS TRADE : Coby White, Lauri Markkanen & the #4 pick (possibly LaMelo Ball)

for

Joel Embiid


G Sato / Dunn
G Lavine / Valentine
F Otto Porter Jr. / Hutchinson
F T. Young / Kornet
C Embiid / Carter Jr. / Stafford


26 yrs old, still young enough to grow with Lavine (25) into their primes. Extend Zach. True #1a/#1b options. Add shooters & PG. Wait until 21/22 to add a legit 3rd option.

I mean Embiid is a heck of a player, but Sato should not be the starting pg. He was the worst starting pg in the league last year. We should try to deal him.

[wolffy]

No NBA team with a pick in the lottery is gonna trade a chance at a potential game changing player for WCJ. His value isnt zero but its not very high either. Hes average at best.

[drosereturn]

I'd offer the Warriors Carter Jr. and Hutchison for the second pick in the first round, but I wouldn't feel comfortable offering them Carter Jr. and the fourth pick. I think the below starting lineup is a needle mover.

White
Lavine
Avdija
Markkanen
Wiseman

Why would GS do that?

Wendell Carter Jr. is a very young talented big man prospect. Let's not act as if he's some valueless scrub. Carter Jr. is far from it. Hutchinson would fit nice as well, as a backup for Wiggins. I don't think Carter Jr. and Hutchinson for Wiseman is a fleece deal in favor of the Bulls by no stretch.

Curry
Thompson
Wiggins
Green
Carter Jr.

Paschall
Chriss
Hutchinson
Lee

Talented at what? Overweight, complains he cannot handle the 5, sluggish, not even average rim protector and seriously got behind Gafford who was a 2nd round pick. Gafford already is several times more valuable bc of the contract but I doubt Carter is even better than him at this point bc his body conditioning is alike to Zion.

Lavine and Carter are the 2 most overrated players in the forum when they hardly have the market value. I am not even sure GS accepts Carter and 4 for number 2 and it has gotten rejected multiple times.

I thought abt keeping him like Lauri but hes way too injury prone OPJ lite to even have expectations. Rather sell him cheap than resigning to a huge multi yr deal.

[drosestruts]

A trade idea that allows Karnisovas to quickly re-shape the Bulls team to his liking

Chicago in: Andrew Wiggins, Golden State 2020 1st round pick, Phoenix 2020 1st round pick
Chicago out: Tomas Satornasky, Lauri Markkanen, Coby White, and Wendell Carter Jr

Golden State in: Tomas Satoransky, Kelly Oubre, and Wendell Carter Jr.
Golden State out: Andrew Wiggins and 2020 1st round pick

Phoenix in: Lauri Markkanen and Coby White
Phoenix out: Kelly Oubre Jr and 2020 1st round pick


Hard to map out what the Bulls would look like depending on who's available at each spot in the draft but it gives them three shots at an impact player in the first round in year one of a new front office, while leaving them with talented players in LaVine and Wiggins who continue to have all the potential in the world. Could a new coach finally unlock it? Both are still relatively young wing players which is the most coveted position in the league. There's also still solid veterans like Porter and Young on the roster too.


Golden State:

Curry/Satoransky/Bowman
Thompson/Satoransky/Poole
Oubre/Satoransky/
Green/Paschall
Carter/Looney/Chriss

I think it's a given that the Warriors trade their pick for players that can help them make another run at a title. Oubre is an upgrade on the wing and Satoransky and Carter Jr provide additional depth. Satoransky's versatility helps out with his ability to play the 1-3, Carter is already a good defender with an untapped offensive game. His ceiling was often said to be Al Horford when he was drafted, if the Warriors can help develop him on the trajectory it would be a perfect fit for their front-court.


Phoenix:

Rubio/White/Jerome
Booker/White
Bridges/Johnson
Markkanen/Saric
Ayton/

After an impressive Bubble performance, Phoenix looks to add some pieces that can help them now while fitting alongside their core long-term. White can be a strong 6th man until taking over for Rubio down the line while Markkanen provides front court scoring and spacing.


Personally I'm hesitant and reluctant to trade players for draft picks, seems like a big risk. But if putting myself in the shoes of AK I'd want to do something to shake up the current Bulls roster and put my own stamp on the team. I think there's plenty of teams in the lottery looking to trade out for players that can help them more in the present, and it presents an opportunity to take advantage of that environment.

[othawhitemeat]

A trade idea that allows Karnisovas to quickly re-shape the Bulls team to his liking

Chicago in: Andrew Wiggins, Golden State 2020 1st round pick, Phoenix 2020 1st round pick
Chicago out: Tomas Satornasky, Lauri Markkanen, Coby White, and Wendell Carter Jr

Golden State in: Tomas Satoransky, Kelly Oubre, and Wendell Carter Jr.
Golden State out: Andrew Wiggins and 2020 1st round pick

Phoenix in: Lauri Markkanen and Coby White
Phoenix out: Kelly Oubre Jr and 2020 1st round pick


Hard to map out what the Bulls would look like depending on who's available at each spot in the draft but it gives them three shots at an impact player in the first round in year one of a new front office, while leaving them with talented players in LaVine and Wiggins who continue to have all the potential in the world. Could a new coach finally unlock it? Both are still relatively young wing players which is the most coveted position in the league. There's also still solid veterans like Porter and Young on the roster too.


Golden State:

Curry/Satoransky/Bowman
Thompson/Satoransky/Poole
Oubre/Satoransky/
Green/Paschall
Carter/Looney/Chriss

I think it's a given that the Warriors trade their pick for players that can help them make another run at a title. Oubre is an upgrade on the wing and Satoransky and Carter Jr provide additional depth. Satoransky's versatility helps out with his ability to play the 1-3, Carter is already a good defender with an untapped offensive game. His ceiling was often said to be Al Horford when he was drafted, if the Warriors can help develop him on the trajectory it would be a perfect fit for their front-court.


Phoenix:

Rubio/White/Jerome
Booker/White
Bridges/Johnson
Markkanen/Saric
Ayton/

After an impressive Bubble performance, Phoenix looks to add some pieces that can help them now while fitting alongside their core long-term. White can be a strong 6th man until taking over for Rubio down the line while Markkanen provides front court scoring and spacing.


Personally I'm hesitant and reluctant to trade players for draft picks, seems like a big risk. But if putting myself in the shoes of AK I'd want to do something to shake up the current Bulls roster and put my own stamp on the team. I think there's plenty of teams in the lottery looking to trade out for players that can help them more in the present, and it presents an opportunity to take advantage of that environment.

This is a terrible draft to trade some of your young talented players for. Also, no one wants Wiggins and his contract. In a typical year, all 3 of our players we are trading are in the top 3 of this draft.

[nanokooshball]

This is absolutely terrible. All of the players you traded are better than any of the players we could find in this draft (which may be historically bad). AND, you make us take on Wiggins absolutely horrendous contract? Just to take on Wiggins contract, I wouldn't even take a straight up first round pick from golden state in this draft., let alone giving away any players.

[MrSparkle]

Uhm.

GSW and CHI hang up.

Are you a secret agent from Arizona?

[BullsFTW]

Throw all our assets in a weak draft?! Nope.

[weneeda2guard]

I dont see why the warriors do this at all

Hell I don't see why we do it.

Its already difficult enough structuring a 3 team deal all sides will be satisfied with which is why they rarely happen especially on draft night. The thinking is how do I eliminate the middle men and get the best asset

I think the 2 packages that the warriors will even listen to from us is

1. Lauri the 4th and a protected pick next season for the 2

Or 2. Porter jr lauri and the 4th for wiggins and the 2nd.

Got to make trading up make sense for the warriors they not trying to help anyone out. Both scenarios i would be perfectly fine with only because I don't feel we have a future franchise player and edwards or ball could be that. In 2 seasons you won't even be thinking about what you gave up to move up similar to how Dallas doesn't think about what they gave up to get doncic. You could strike out but there's no zion no lebrons here its all a gamble

I mean maybe the sixers say they willing to part with embiid but don't want to eat wiggins money so the bulls get in on that so something like

Warriors get embiid

Philly gets the 4th lauri and porter jr

Chicago gets wiggins and the 2nd might make some eyebrows raise. But still unlikely imo

[the ultimates]

So the Bulls take on Wiggins contract in order to get two first-round picks, hell no. This team doesn't need more picks it needs to find out for better or worse what they have in the drafted lottery picks on the roster.