NBA Trade Thread # 3

[WindyCityBorn]

I'm not sure that LaVine's value around the league is necessarily as high as some people think. And I'm way more of a "build a solid team and then try to get stars" type of guy, so.

Bulls get:
Terry Rozier, Miles Bridges, PJ Washington, 1st RP

Hornets get:
LaVine, Sato

Coby becomes backup PG with some SG minutes. And we end up with a pretty good wing rotation for once instead of our current "start 3 centers" line ups. I think Washington's game would really mesh well with Vuc too. Honestly we would become solid if unspectacular, but I'd be fine with "just solid" for a change. The Hornets create a Big 3 of Ball, LaVine, Hayward which I think they would probably jump at

This is trash.

[WindyCityBorn]

If we trade Lavine, it's because we moved up in the draft (maybe to #1) and decide to cash in and start over.

Why exactly would we be starting over? Getting the guy from Gonzaga or OK State would be great pairing with Zach. I guess you want more draft picks? Haven’t seen enough busts this century?

[WindyCityBorn]

I'm not sure that LaVine's value around the league is necessarily as high as some people think. And I'm way more of a "build a solid team and then try to get stars" type of guy, so.

Bulls get:
Terry Rozier, Miles Bridges, PJ Washington, 1st RP

Hornets get:
LaVine, Sato

Coby becomes backup PG with some SG minutes. And we end up with a pretty good wing rotation for once instead of our current "start 3 centers" line ups. I think Washington's game would really mesh well with Vuc too. Honestly we would become solid if unspectacular, but I'd be fine with "just solid" for a change. The Hornets create a Big 3 of Ball, LaVine, Hayward which I think they would probably jump at

Not that I'm a fan of it, but any Hornet deal for Lavine would need to include Ball.

So you are basically saying there is no deal with Charlotte which correct. They have nothing outside of Ball I would take for LaVine.

[ZOMG]

I'm not sure that LaVine's value around the league is necessarily as high as some people think. And I'm way more of a "build a solid team and then try to get stars" type of guy, so.

Bulls get:
Terry Rozier, Miles Bridges, PJ Washington, 1st RP

Hornets get:
LaVine, Sato

Coby becomes backup PG with some SG minutes. And we end up with a pretty good wing rotation for once instead of our current "start 3 centers" line ups. I think Washington's game would really mesh well with Vuc too. Honestly we would become solid if unspectacular, but I'd be fine with "just solid" for a change. The Hornets create a Big 3 of Ball, LaVine, Hayward which I think they would probably jump at

Wow. Just wow.

Why would the Hornets ever do that deal? Rozier is as good as LaVine RIGHT NOW. PJ is better than any of our "power forwards" and Bridges is developing into a force. And they'd throw a 1st in there too??

JFC. The overrating of Zach has really been taken to a ridiculous extreme here.

[imagge]

I'm not sure that LaVine's value around the league is necessarily as high as some people think. And I'm way more of a "build a solid team and then try to get stars" type of guy, so.

Bulls get:
Terry Rozier, Miles Bridges, PJ Washington, 1st RP

Hornets get:
LaVine, Sato

Coby becomes backup PG with some SG minutes. And we end up with a pretty good wing rotation for once instead of our current "start 3 centers" line ups. I think Washington's game would really mesh well with Vuc too. Honestly we would become solid if unspectacular, but I'd be fine with "just solid" for a change. The Hornets create a Big 3 of Ball, LaVine, Hayward which I think they would probably jump at

Wow. Just wow.

Why would the Hornets ever do that deal? Rozier is as good as LaVine RIGHT NOW. PJ is better than any of our "power forwards" and Bridges is developing into a force. And they'd throw a 1st in there too??

JFC. The overrating of Zach has really been taken to a ridiculous extreme here.

Just come out and say you have hate in your heart for Lavine.... you have no concept of what a good basketball player is if you actually believe Rozier is as good as Zach is right now? You really don’t want to be taken seriously do you

[WindyCityBorn]

I'm not sure that LaVine's value around the league is necessarily as high as some people think. And I'm way more of a "build a solid team and then try to get stars" type of guy, so.

Bulls get:
Terry Rozier, Miles Bridges, PJ Washington, 1st RP

Hornets get:
LaVine, Sato

Coby becomes backup PG with some SG minutes. And we end up with a pretty good wing rotation for once instead of our current "start 3 centers" line ups. I think Washington's game would really mesh well with Vuc too. Honestly we would become solid if unspectacular, but I'd be fine with "just solid" for a change. The Hornets create a Big 3 of Ball, LaVine, Hayward which I think they would probably jump at

Wow. Just wow.

Why would the Hornets ever do that deal? Rozier is as good as LaVine RIGHT NOW. PJ is better than any of our "power forwards" and Bridges is developing into a force. And they'd throw a 1st in there too??

JFC. The overrating of Zach has really been taken to a ridiculous extreme here.

Rozier is as good as LaVine? Most delusional take this week.

[WindyCityBorn]

I'm not sure that LaVine's value around the league is necessarily as high as some people think. And I'm way more of a "build a solid team and then try to get stars" type of guy, so.

Bulls get:
Terry Rozier, Miles Bridges, PJ Washington, 1st RP

Hornets get:
LaVine, Sato

Coby becomes backup PG with some SG minutes. And we end up with a pretty good wing rotation for once instead of our current "start 3 centers" line ups. I think Washington's game would really mesh well with Vuc too. Honestly we would become solid if unspectacular, but I'd be fine with "just solid" for a change. The Hornets create a Big 3 of Ball, LaVine, Hayward which I think they would probably jump at

Wow. Just wow.

Why would the Hornets ever do that deal? Rozier is as good as LaVine RIGHT NOW. PJ is better than any of our "power forwards" and Bridges is developing into a force. And they'd throw a 1st in there too??

JFC. The overrating of Zach has really been taken to a ridiculous extreme here.

Just come out and say you have hate in your heart for Lavine.... you have no concept of what a good basketball player is if you actually believe Rozier is as good as Zach is right now? You really don’t want to be taken seriously do you

I don’t take any Lauri Stans seriously. Hopefully they all follow him to his new team.

[sco]

Wow. Just wow.

Why would the Hornets ever do that deal? Rozier is as good as LaVine RIGHT NOW. PJ is better than any of our "power forwards" and Bridges is developing into a force. And they'd throw a 1st in there too??

JFC. The overrating of Zach has really been taken to a ridiculous extreme here.

Just come out and say you have hate in your heart for Lavine.... you have no concept of what a good basketball player is if you actually believe Rozier is as good as Zach is right now? You really don’t want to be taken seriously do you

I don’t take any Lauri Stans seriously. Hopefully they all follow him to his new team.

Props to ZOMG anyway. He has to have set the RealGM single season record for most replies to posts this season.

[ZOMG]

Wow. Just wow.

Why would the Hornets ever do that deal? Rozier is as good as LaVine RIGHT NOW. PJ is better than any of our "power forwards" and Bridges is developing into a force. And they'd throw a 1st in there too??

JFC. The overrating of Zach has really been taken to a ridiculous extreme here.

Just come out and say you have hate in your heart for Lavine.... you have no concept of what a good basketball player is if you actually believe Rozier is as good as Zach is right now? You really don’t want to be taken seriously do you

I don’t take any Lauri Stans seriously. Hopefully they all follow him to his new team.

So you really ddn't have a single argument to counter mine? Instead resorting to a tired ad hominem attack. Not surprised.

Once again Markkanen had nothing to do with this and you were the only one to mention his name. It really has become impossible to have a normal debate here.

[PrimzyBulls81]

Just come out and say you have hate in your heart for Lavine.... you have no concept of what a good basketball player is if you actually believe Rozier is as good as Zach is right now? You really don’t want to be taken seriously do you

I don’t take any Lauri Stans seriously. Hopefully they all follow him to his new team.

So you really ddn't have a single argument to counter mine? Instead resorting to a tired ad hominem attack. Not surprised.

Once again Markkanen had nothing to do with this and you were the only one to mention his name. It really has become impossible to have a normal debate here.

Well when you wrote Rozier is as good as Lavine, it all ended there.. LoL! Celtics last season Terry was pretty darn good, then went downhill..
Lavine is legit all star and getting better every year..

[WindyCityBorn]

Just come out and say you have hate in your heart for Lavine.... you have no concept of what a good basketball player is if you actually believe Rozier is as good as Zach is right now? You really don’t want to be taken seriously do you

I don’t take any Lauri Stans seriously. Hopefully they all follow him to his new team.

So you really ddn't have a single argument to counter mine? Instead resorting to a tired ad hominem attack. Not surprised.

Once again Markkanen had nothing to do with this and you were the only one to mention his name. It really has become impossible to have a normal debate here.

Not an attack. I’m just gonna give a side eye or basically hand wave criticism by anyone who has continuously blamed Zach, Coby, Donovan and even AK for Lauri’s failure to live up to expectations. Basically anyone who puts Lauri above the team. Saying Terry Rozier is better than LaVine is the kind of nonsense I would expect from an overzealous Lauri fans and not even worthy of a response. And I didn’t even directly respond for the reason mentioned above.

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If we are looking for a mid first round pick, Houston is the place. They have four Frp’s this year. Nobody really wants four rookies, not even in a rebuild. I don’t know their roster enough to see any young targets besides May be Kevin Porter. But I bet they would be happy with a s&t Laurie for a pick and a prospect. Plus I assume they could absorb his salary. Wall is too expensive and Gordon is too old. But we may be able to get something for Laurie in Houston.

[Chi town]

If we are looking for a mid first round pick, Houston is the place. They have four Frp’s this year. Nobody really wants four rookies, not even in a rebuild. I don’t know their roster enough to see any young targets besides May be Kevin Porter. But I bet they would be happy with a s&t Laurie for a pick and a prospect. Plus I assume they could absorb his salary. Wall is too expensive and Gordon is too old. But we may be able to get something for Laurie in Houston.

Good thinking. Wood and Lauri would def make them 5 out on offense too.

[sco]

If we are looking for a mid first round pick, Houston is the place. They have four Frp’s this year. Nobody really wants four rookies, not even in a rebuild. I don’t know their roster enough to see any young targets besides May be Kevin Porter. But I bet they would be happy with a s&t Laurie for a pick and a prospect. Plus I assume they could absorb his salary. Wall is too expensive and Gordon is too old. But we may be able to get something for Laurie in Houston.

Good thinking. Wood and Lauri would def make them 5 out on offense too.

If I'm Hou, I resign Olynyk (better, cheaper, post-season experience) before I bother for 5 seconds with Lauri. That said, I can't see Olynyk wanting to stay...he'll be coveted.

The trade that may interest them would be Sato for Gordon + a 1st. Gordon has at least 2 more seasons at $20M, but he's a servicable backup SG. That's a lot of flexibility to get a 1st, but the $ work I think.

Even crazier, we could dump everyone not nailed down (Thad, Sato, White, Brown) for Wall and 2 1sts. Wall was surprising decent this season, albeit not durable - but it fills the PG hole.

[jump]

If we are looking for a mid first round pick, Houston is the place. They have four Frp’s this year. Nobody really wants four rookies, not even in a rebuild. I don’t know their roster enough to see any young targets besides May be Kevin Porter. But I bet they would be happy with a s&t Laurie for a pick and a prospect. Plus I assume they could absorb his salary. Wall is too expensive and Gordon is too old. But we may be able to get something for Laurie in Houston.

Good thinking. Wood and Lauri would def make them 5 out on offense too.

If I'm Hou, I resign Olynyk (better, cheaper, post-season experience) before I bother for 5 seconds with Lauri. That said, I can't see Olynyk wanting to stay...he'll be coveted.

The trade that may interest them would be Sato for Gordon + a 1st. Gordon has at least 2 more seasons at $20M, but he's a servicable backup SG. That's a lot of flexibility to get a 1st, but the $ work I think.

Even crazier, we could dump everyone not nailed down (Thad, Sato, White, Brown) for Wall and 2 1sts. Wall was surprising decent this season, albeit not durable - but it fills the PG hole.

I wouldn't want to include White in that trade. I believe he is going to be very valuable to us. Actually, Sato for Gordon and a 1st sounds appealing, but it would really lower the bar on the quality of PG we could sign. Could be get Devonte Graham cheap?

[ChettheJet]

I agree on the notion that HOU wouldn't want to have 4 rookies which amounts in most cases to you having 1/3 of your roster as a college sophomore team. Too big of a gamble to think you can hit 4 for 4 on draft picks in one year.

The Rockets don't actually have much of a roster to start next year with so they could be looking to trade 2 of those picks to get 3 or 4 solid players to hold things together for the first year of the rebuild. Markkanen would fit that description. Expiring contracts like Young, Aminu and Satyoransky could be appealing It could be that AK had some discussions with HOU prior to the deadline which made him believe trading the two picks for Vucevic could be partially offset during the summer.

I'm hesitant to think about a 32 year old Eric Gordon making as much as he does for as long as he does. He takes up cap space when Zach becomes a FA. I'd have to see the #7 championship banner being printed waiting to go up before I could trade for John Wall. Great player, has come back but makes about what Zach and Vuc make combined leaving minimum money for 7-8 guys on the roster. I would have liked to have gotten Kevin Porter jr when he had his personal misadventure because he looked like he could find his game in the right situation. Playing next to Wall he seems to be averaging 6+ ASP and might look more like a PG than Coby albeit on a tanking team.

In fact I would also look at the Knicks for the same type of deal. They've got the DAL pick and their own and in 2023 as well when the Bulls are short a pick. Thibs as we know isn't big on trusting rookies. Markkanen in a S&T to NYK for the lesser of their pick next year or in 2023 even, for Toppin would move things around on both teams. Again Young, Aminu or Satoransky could be of interest .

[sco]

If we are looking for a mid first round pick, Houston is the place. They have four Frp’s this year. Nobody really wants four rookies, not even in a rebuild. I don’t know their roster enough to see any young targets besides May be Kevin Porter. But I bet they would be happy with a s&t Laurie for a pick and a prospect. Plus I assume they could absorb his salary. Wall is too expensive and Gordon is too old. But we may be able to get something for Laurie in Houston.

Good thinking. Wood and Lauri would def make them 5 out on offense too.

If I'm Hou, I resign Olynyk (better, cheaper, post-season experience) before I bother for 5 seconds with Lauri. That said, I can't see Olynyk wanting to stay...he'll be coveted.

The trade that may interest them would be Sato for Gordon + a 1st. Gordon has at least 2 more seasons at $20M, but he's a servicable backup SG. That's a lot of flexibility to get a 1st, but the $ work I think.

Even crazier, we could dump everyone not nailed down (Thad, Sato, White, Brown) for Wall and 2 1sts. Wall was surprising decent this season, albeit not durable - but it fills the PG hole.

Saw this today https://www.yahoo.com/sports/report-john-wall-contract-buyout-155210654.html

I would definitely sign up for a deal that nets us Wall (and 2 firsts) for Thad, Sato, White, Brown. I think the $ still work if keep White or Brown (I'd prefer to keep Brown).

[erasmusmrr]

Bulls already traded 2 firsts for a 24M a year 30 plus year old. No cap space going forward once Zach and Lauri sign. Yes, I would take an expensive vet. Why not?

[weneeda2guard]

Bulls already traded 2 firsts for a 24M a year 30 plus year old. No cap space going forward once Zach and Lauri sign. Yes, I would take an expensive vet. Why not?

Lauri? Lol

Lauri is done here at best he getting signed and traded. More likely he signs a offer sheet and we don't match

[sco]

What about Sato for Smart?