Bears 10.0: GM and coach watch before the draft

patryk7754 · Post #1821 » by **patryk7754** » Wed Feb 26, 2025 3:48 pm

A lot of rumors will be coming out during and immediately after the combine. I feel like this time of year the rumors are as legit as they get. So between now and the draft, we should probably only be paying attention to rumors that happen over the next week or so. For the most part

biggestbullsfan · Post #1822 » by **biggestbullsfan** » Wed Feb 26, 2025 4:03 pm

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jnrjr79 · Post #1823 » by **jnrjr79** » Wed Feb 26, 2025 4:26 pm

Kind of interesting to see the players rate ownership highly.

TheSuzerain · Post #1824 » by **TheSuzerain** » Wed Feb 26, 2025 4:45 pm

jnrjr79 wrote:Kind of interesting to see the players rate ownership highly.

Nate Davis gave them an A+. Said it was a pleasure doing business.

panthermark · Post #1825 » by **panthermark** » Wed Feb 26, 2025 5:07 pm

jnrjr79 wrote:Kind of interesting to see the players rate ownership highly.

Yeah, probably a lot of factors there given how this season went. But surveys are always strange when someone is asked to grade the person or org that signs their paychecks. Looking at the numbers, there were more "A"'s given (13), than "C's" (6), "D"'s (5) and "F"'s (1) combined.

biggestbullsfan · Post #1826 » by **biggestbullsfan** » Wed Feb 26, 2025 5:41 pm

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molepharmer · Post #1827 » by **molepharmer** » Wed Feb 26, 2025 5:58 pm

jnrjr79 wrote:Kind of interesting to see the players rate ownership highly.

Looks to be a very good correlation between the ownership grade and the overall facilities grade. Poor facilities goes along with poor ownership grade and visa versa. Not completely surprising since I doubt the players have a whole lot of one on one with ownership but they do take notice of how they're treated at the facility on a daily basis.

jnrjr79 · Post #1828 » by **jnrjr79** » Wed Feb 26, 2025 6:23 pm

panthermark wrote:
jnrjr79 wrote:Kind of interesting to see the players rate ownership highly.

Yeah, probably a lot of factors there given how this season went. But surveys are always strange when someone is asked to grade the person or org that signs their paychecks. Looking at the numbers, there were more "A"'s given (13), than "C's" (6), "D"'s (5) and "F"'s (1) combined.

Yeah, it might just be that George is around a lot and is a pretty down-to-earth guy, so he's probably just enjoyable enough for the players to be around and not seen as meddlesome.

Almost Retired · Post #1829 » by **Almost Retired** » Wed Feb 26, 2025 6:43 pm

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/cincinnati-bengals/news/bears-bengals-blockbuster-trade-proposal-21-million-star-picks/357fda6969cb617b78100153

Would you give up a 2nd and a 5th this year to acquire Trey Hendrickson? If it were a 3rd and a 5th I'd certainly be tempted. And I generally don't like to trade draft capital for high price veterans. But the dude led the league in sacks last year.

TheSuzerain · Post #1830 » by **TheSuzerain** » Wed Feb 26, 2025 7:12 pm

Almost Retired wrote:https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/cincinnati-bengals/news/bears-bengals-blockbuster-trade-proposal-21-million-star-picks/357fda6969cb617b78100153

Would you give up a 2nd and a 5th this year to acquire Trey Hendrickson? If it were a 3rd and a 5th I'd certainly be tempted. And I generally don't like to trade draft capital for high price veterans. But the dude led the league in sacks last year.

Yes I think so provided his health checks out.

patryk7754 · Post #1831 » by **patryk7754** » Wed Feb 26, 2025 7:27 pm

Almost Retired wrote:https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/cincinnati-bengals/news/bears-bengals-blockbuster-trade-proposal-21-million-star-picks/357fda6969cb617b78100153

Would you give up a 2nd and a 5th this year to acquire Trey Hendrickson? If it were a 3rd and a 5th I'd certainly be tempted. And I generally don't like to trade draft capital for high price veterans. But the dude led the league in sacks last year.

It's definitely worth it. My only concern is what will Hendrickson ask for. He's 30 so his decline is on the way. Something that lines up with Sweat would be ideal but I think he could get more.

I've heard someone mention that it may only cost a 3rd but I didn't pay it much attention but if that's all it takes (plus a 5th) I'd do it in a heart beat. I'd try to double down on the DL and trade up for Graham in the draft.

If we went into next season with these as our trenches, we would be in great shape:

DL: Hendrickson/Dexter/Graham/Sweat
OL: Jones/Zeitler/Dalman/Fries/Wright

patryk7754 · Post #1832 » by **patryk7754** » Wed Feb 26, 2025 7:33 pm

Say we have to draft up to 5 to be able to draft Graham the draft pick value chart says we'd have to make up 350 points from 10 to 5. To move up there, we'd have to probably add our 3rd and a future 4th. Depending on what holes we have left going into the draft, I think I would be in favor of doing that on top of a hypothetical trade for Hendrickson, giving up a 2nd and 5th.

Dresden · Post #1833 » by **Dresden** » Wed Feb 26, 2025 9:40 pm

jnrjr79 wrote:Kind of interesting to see the players rate ownership highly.

Yeah it is. I think they weigh whether the owner seems interested in improving the team, and if they have a positive influence on team culture.

If you polled CHI fans, I'm sure they'd get an F. So a big disconnect there.

Dresden · Post #1834 » by **Dresden** » Wed Feb 26, 2025 9:43 pm

Interesting also that the Steelers and the Patriots were ranked in the bottom 5- those orgs are usually viewed as being model franchises. Robert Kraft was the second worst owner in this survey.

Dresden · Post #1835 » by **Dresden** » Wed Feb 26, 2025 9:45 pm

Now that we have a new HC, unless other things change, we should rank in the top 10 next year in this survey, maybe even top 5. Which disproves the narrative some fans have that nobody wants to play for the Bears.

Dresden · Post #1836 » by **Dresden** » Wed Feb 26, 2025 9:46 pm

I wonder how Eberflus' grade changed from '23 to '24 also. If he was ranked this poorly last year, it's curious that Poles would have extended him.

panthermark · Post #1837 » by **panthermark** » Wed Feb 26, 2025 10:10 pm

Dresden wrote:Now that we have a new HC, unless other things change, we should rank in the top 10 next year in this survey, maybe even top 5. Which disproves the narrative some fans have that nobody wants to play for the Bears.

What are you talking about?
What narrative? What disproves what?

Seems like you are trying to create a strawman narrative to disprove?

What exactly disproves what based on a survey that happened after a new head coach was hired? And who are these fans saying this to begin with?

Does this disprove that players don't want to go to a losing team (all money being equal)? Or prefer warmer weather teams? Or what?

Jcool0 · Post #1838 » by **Jcool0** » Wed Feb 26, 2025 10:36 pm

No idea how legit this is...

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Dresden · Post #1839 » by **Dresden** » Wed Feb 26, 2025 10:47 pm

panthermark wrote:
Dresden wrote:Now that we have a new HC, unless other things change, we should rank in the top 10 next year in this survey, maybe even top 5. Which disproves the narrative some fans have that nobody wants to play for the Bears.

What are you talking about?
What narrative? What disproves what?

Seems like you are trying to create a strawman narrative to disprove?

What exactly disproves what based on a survey that happened after a new head coach was hired? And who are these fans saying this to begin with?

Does this disprove that players don't want to go to a losing team (all money being equal)? Or prefer warmer weather teams? Or what?

There were several posters here who made comments saying "no one will want to come to the Bears" either talking about players or coaches, for a variety of reasons- but mostly due to perceived disfunction in the front office. This survey, of players themselves, shows that the Bears are far from being viewed as a pariah. Thus, this notion that "no one wants to come here" seems to be more a case of fans' frustration than reality.

nomorezorro · Post #1840 » by **nomorezorro** » Thu Feb 27, 2025 12:29 am

Almost Retired wrote:https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/cincinnati-bengals/news/bears-bengals-blockbuster-trade-proposal-21-million-star-picks/357fda6969cb617b78100153

Would you give up a 2nd and a 5th this year to acquire Trey Hendrickson? If it were a 3rd and a 5th I'd certainly be tempted. And I generally don't like to trade draft capital for high price veterans. But the dude led the league in sacks last year.

i'm not giving up 39 or 41 for a guy on the wrong side of 30 who wants a new contract. we should be in no rush to acquire a "finishing piece"-type player. wait until the team proves it's actually good before you sacrifice long-term building blocks for established short-term contributors