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NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22.

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Young
27
16%
Carter
42
25%
Porter
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44%
Bridges
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9%
Knox
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4%
Sexton
5
3%
 
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#1841 » by NecessaryEvil » Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:53 pm

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TyrusRose2425 wrote:Let's see if we can get it done. I would think we have the assets to pull it off.


What team(s) are we talking to?

Any team that can guarantee we get that player


TR...

Is said player Mohamed Bamba from the University of Texas?

If so, don't even respond to me.....that would be all I need to know

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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#1842 » by johnnyvann840 » Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:53 pm

TyrusRose2425 wrote:Would you like a trade up?


For Luka, JJJ or Bamba. Not for Porter or Young.
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#1843 » by AKfanatic » Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:54 pm

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TyrusRose2425 wrote:Would you like a trade up?


For Luka, JJJ or Bamba. Not for Porter or Young.


My thoughts exactly.

And in that order for players.
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#1844 » by bad knees » Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:55 pm

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bad knees wrote:So when the Bulls draft Bamba to pair him with Lauri, which of them will guard the 4 when the other team goes small? I don't think either is capable of doing so, and I have yet to see any team that can keep two bigs on the floor when a good team goes small against them. I have seen enough of Lauri to believe that he can guard the small ball 5's. I don't think he's capable of guarding the 4 in this situation. I know that Bamba's fans think he is capable of guarding on the perimeter, but I have seen no evidence of this, and I highly doubt that he will be capable of guarding a small ball 4. So one of them will have to come off the court.

The only big in this draft who can guard small ball 4's is JJJ. He and Lauri can play next to each other, all game, against any lineup that the other team wants to throw out there. And if a team goes small, Lauri and JJJ will be able to take advantage of mismatches - maybe not right now, but they are young and can develop post games. Plus JJJ can already shoot the 3, and he is a better rim defender than Bamba because of his athleticism, quickness and leaping ability. If the Bulls trade up to 4, the best option is JJJ.


If the Bulls trade up, the best option is the alien with the 7"10 wingspan.. Bamba is probably the best athlete in the top 10. Bulls haven't said a peep about JJJ.

I like JJJ alot too so I wouldn't be upset. But all signs point to Mo


You are conflating two issues (as happens a lot around here) - who is best (in the mind of the poster or posters) and who the Bulls will likely take. I am saying that I like JJJ best; I agree that there are signs that the Bulls prefer Bamba. I just wonder what the thinking is when opposing teams go small. Are we just going to keep both of Lauri and Bamba out there? Hasn't worked yet. There must be a reason that every team goes with at most one big when a good team goes small against them. JJJ is a true unicorn in that he is a big that can guard small ball 4's. I know that he has his faults, but he's still only 18, for god's sake.
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#1845 » by IliketheBullsNBearstoo » Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:56 pm

TyrusRose2425 wrote:Would you like a trade up?



From 22? Yeah sure why not get a better player to go along with the one we get at 7. :wink:
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#1846 » by NecessaryEvil » Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:57 pm

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bad knees wrote:So when the Bulls draft Bamba to pair him with Lauri, which of them will guard the 4 when the other team goes small? I don't think either is capable of doing so, and I have yet to see any team that can keep two bigs on the floor when a good team goes small against them. I have seen enough of Lauri to believe that he can guard the small ball 5's. I don't think he's capable of guarding the 4 in this situation. I know that Bamba's fans think he is capable of guarding on the perimeter, but I have seen no evidence of this, and I highly doubt that he will be capable of guarding a small ball 4. So one of them will have to come off the court.

The only big in this draft who can guard small ball 4's is JJJ. He and Lauri can play next to each other, all game, against any lineup that the other team wants to throw out there. And if a team goes small, Lauri and JJJ will be able to take advantage of mismatches - maybe not right now, but they are young and can develop post games. Plus JJJ can already shoot the 3, and he is a better rim defender than Bamba because of his athleticism, quickness and leaping ability. If the Bulls trade up to 4, the best option is JJJ.


If the Bulls trade up, the best option is the alien with the 7"10 wingspan.. Bamba is probably the best athlete in the top 10. Bulls haven't said a peep about JJJ.

I like JJJ alot too so I wouldn't be upset. But all signs point to Mo


You are conflating two issues (as happens a lot around here) - who is best (in the mind of the poster or posters) and who the Bulls will likely take. I am saying that I like JJJ best; I agree that there are signs that the Bulls prefer Bamba. I just wonder what the thinking is when opposing teams go small. Are we just going to keep both of Lauri and Bamba out there? Hasn't worked yet. There must be a reason that every team goes with at most one big when a good team goes small against them. JJJ is a true unicorn in that he is a big that can guard small ball 4's. I know that he has his faults, but he's still only 18, for god's sake.


I'm not really worried about something like that right now. We're nowhere near contention. We are rebuilding, players are developing. We're not playing GS in the finals anytime soon
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#1847 » by fleet » Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:57 pm

I would trade up for any in the big 6. Young I'm not sure of. Main thing is, the Bulls absolutely should do anything to get their guy after tanking all year. Otherwise, what a waste
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#1848 » by realEAST » Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:58 pm

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bad knees wrote:So when the Bulls draft Bamba to pair him with Lauri, which of them will guard the 4 when the other team goes small? I don't think either is capable of doing so, and I have yet to see any team that can keep two bigs on the floor when a good team goes small against them. I have seen enough of Lauri to believe that he can guard the small ball 5's. I don't think he's capable of guarding the 4 in this situation. I know that Bamba's fans think he is capable of guarding on the perimeter, but I have seen no evidence of this, and I highly doubt that he will be capable of guarding a small ball 4. So one of them will have to come off the court.

The only big in this draft who can guard small ball 4's is JJJ. He and Lauri can play next to each other, all game, against any lineup that the other team wants to throw out there. And if a team goes small, Lauri and JJJ will be able to take advantage of mismatches - maybe not right now, but they are young and can develop post games. Plus JJJ can already shoot the 3, and he is a better rim defender than Bamba because of his athleticism, quickness and leaping ability. If the Bulls trade up to 4, the best option is JJJ.


If the Bulls trade up, the best option is the alien with the 7"10 wingspan.. Bamba is probably the best athlete in the top 10. Bulls haven't said a peep about JJJ.

I like JJJ alot too so I wouldn't be upset. But all signs point to Mo


I also find it strange JJJ wasn't mentioned at all in any rumor that surfaced or "surfaced".
I'd take him over Bamba, I like his potential on both sides more
(better instincts and agility; better on ball skills and shooting, although a stroke might do with a slight tweak. his FT% is pretty high too)

But if they identified Bamba as primary target, by all means, proceede :)
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#1849 » by NecessaryEvil » Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:58 pm

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TyrusRose2425 wrote:Would you like a trade up?



From 22? Yeah sure why not get a better player to go along with the one we get at 7. :wink:


I would really like it if we went all in on this draft. So many talents from 1-14. Next yrs draft may not even matter.
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Post#1850 » by realEAST » Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:58 pm

TyrusRose2425 wrote:
realEAST wrote:
TyrusRose2425 wrote:Would you like a trade up?


If our answers have any impact, than yes. If not, then yes :)

Let's see if we can get it done. I would think we have the assets to pull it off.


This last sentence is so nice to hear :)
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#1851 » by musiqsoulchild » Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:59 pm

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realEAST wrote:
I am not sure I'd put my hand in fire for Isiah Thomas being a good talent evaluator...his Knicks stint is still legendary, but in Billy King way

Doesnt matter anyway. It was Boston IT that said it. Zeke is a good drafter though, no doubt.


Is he though? When did he ever make a great pick that went against conventional logic?

Serious question. I'm asking because I can't think of any really.


Channing Frye
David Lee
Marcus Camby ( oh, yeah)
Trevor Ariza ( crazy drafting)
Renaldo Balkman
Wilson Chandler

Lee, Camby, Chandler, Ariza have all had very good careers relative to where they were picked. And Frye is still in the league, though a failure compared to his being a Top 10 pick.

Isiah Thomas the drafter is definitely leagues better than Isiah Thomas the trader and the check giver.
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#1852 » by realEAST » Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:59 pm

johnnyvann840 wrote:
TyrusRose2425 wrote:Would you like a trade up?


For Luka, JJJ or Bamba. Not for Porter or Young.


I kind of hope that is implied
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Post#1853 » by Chi town » Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:00 pm

bad knees wrote:So when the Bulls draft Bamba to pair him with Lauri, which of them will guard the 4 when the other team goes small? I don't think either is capable of doing so, and I have yet to see any team that can keep two bigs on the floor when a good team goes small against them. I have seen enough of Lauri to believe that he can guard the small ball 5's. I don't think he's capable of guarding the 4 in this situation. I know that Bamba's fans think he is capable of guarding on the perimeter, but I have seen no evidence of this, and I highly doubt that he will be capable of guarding a small ball 4. So one of them will have to come off the court.

The only big in this draft who can guard small ball 4's is JJJ. He and Lauri can play next to each other, all game, against any lineup that the other team wants to throw out there. And if a team goes small, Lauri and JJJ will be able to take advantage of mismatches - maybe not right now, but they are young and can develop post games. Plus JJJ can already shoot the 3, and he is a better rim defender than Bamba because of his athleticism, quickness and leaping ability. If the Bulls trade up to 4, the best option is JJJ.


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Post#1854 » by boozapalooza » Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:00 pm

InsideInfo wrote:I have lost all faith in NBA Draft.net

God they are bad. They currently have us taking Collin Sexton and passing on Bamba, MPJ, and Mikal.


So true man. Was my favorite draft website for a long time til a few years ago...they have completely lost their touch. Their site was revolutionary a decade ago...pure garbage now
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#1855 » by Southpaw » Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:01 pm

TyrusRose2425 wrote:
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TyrusRose2425 wrote:Would you like a trade up?


If our answers have any impact, than yes. If not, then yes :)

Let's see if we can get it done. I would think we have the assets to pull it off.

Please let it be true. Don't tease me like this hahaha.
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Post#1856 » by johnnyvann840 » Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:02 pm

musiqsoulchild wrote:
johnnyvann840 wrote:
fleet wrote:Doesnt matter anyway. It was Boston IT that said it. Zeke is a good drafter though, no doubt.


Is he though? When did he ever make a great pick that went against conventional logic?

Serious question. I'm asking because I can't think of any really.


Channing Frye
David Lee
Marcus Camby ( oh, yeah)
Trevor Ariza ( crazy drafting)
Renaldo Balkman
Wilson Chandler

Lee, Camby, Chandler, Ariza have all had very good careers relative to where they were picked. And Frye is still in the league, though a failure compared to his being a Top 10 pick.

Isiah Thomas the drafter is definitely leagues better than Isiah Thomas the trader and the check giver.


Still nothing all that special. Not the best drafter since 1989 at the time. Balkman was the only real shot in the dark that surprised people.
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Post#1857 » by Ugly Duckling » Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:02 pm

Ok there's our sign not to take Porter if Young or Carter are still on the board. Charlotte traded 32 y/o Dwight for 2 second rounders and Mozgov. Preference would be Bamba, then Young, then Carter
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Post#1858 » by musiqsoulchild » Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:03 pm

johnnyvann840 wrote:
musiqsoulchild wrote:
johnnyvann840 wrote:
Is he though? When did he ever make a great pick that went against conventional logic?

Serious question. I'm asking because I can't think of any really.


Channing Frye
David Lee
Marcus Camby ( oh, yeah)
Trevor Ariza ( crazy drafting)
Renaldo Balkman
Wilson Chandler

Lee, Camby, Chandler, Ariza have all had very good careers relative to where they were picked. And Frye is still in the league, though a failure compared to his being a Top 10 pick.

Isiah Thomas the drafter is definitely leagues better than Isiah Thomas the trader and the check giver.


Still nothing all that special. Not the best drafter since 1989 at the time. Balkman was the only real shot in the dark that surprised people.


The premise wasnt if he was special, johhnny. It was if he is a good drafter or not.

I think he's a pretty good drafter.
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Re: NBA Draft 2018 6.0: Lucky #7 and 22. 

Post#1859 » by fleet » Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:03 pm

bad knees wrote:
NecessaryEvil wrote:
bad knees wrote:So when the Bulls draft Bamba to pair him with Lauri, which of them will guard the 4 when the other team goes small? I don't think either is capable of doing so, and I have yet to see any team that can keep two bigs on the floor when a good team goes small against them. I have seen enough of Lauri to believe that he can guard the small ball 5's. I don't think he's capable of guarding the 4 in this situation. I know that Bamba's fans think he is capable of guarding on the perimeter, but I have seen no evidence of this, and I highly doubt that he will be capable of guarding a small ball 4. So one of them will have to come off the court.

The only big in this draft who can guard small ball 4's is JJJ. He and Lauri can play next to each other, all game, against any lineup that the other team wants to throw out there. And if a team goes small, Lauri and JJJ will be able to take advantage of mismatches - maybe not right now, but they are young and can develop post games. Plus JJJ can already shoot the 3, and he is a better rim defender than Bamba because of his athleticism, quickness and leaping ability. If the Bulls trade up to 4, the best option is JJJ.


If the Bulls trade up, the best option is the alien with the 7"10 wingspan.. Bamba is probably the best athlete in the top 10. Bulls haven't said a peep about JJJ.

I like JJJ alot too so I wouldn't be upset. But all signs point to Mo


You are conflating two issues (as happens a lot around here) - who is best (in the mind of the poster or posters) and who the Bulls will likely take. I am saying that I like JJJ best; I agree that there are signs that the Bulls prefer Bamba. I just wonder what the thinking is when opposing teams go small. Are we just going to keep both of Lauri and Bamba out there? Hasn't worked yet. There must be a reason that every team goes with at most one big when a good team goes small against them. JJJ is a true unicorn in that he is a big that can guard small ball 4's. I know that he has his faults, but he's still only 18, for god's sake.

Bamba is tantalizing. We are all programed to think that way about bigs our entire lives..But yeah, can he stay on the floor in 4th quarter crunch time? Play small ball? He has to be able to pass out of the post, guard on the perimeter, and shoot 3s. We dont know any of these questions answers.
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Post#1860 » by Darius Miles Davis » Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:03 pm

TyrusRose2425 wrote:Would you like a trade up?


Screw it. Yes.


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