Bears 7.0: 2024 Season thread

[Dresden]

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It's frustrating when the players seem to be smarter than the coaches.

Second guessing is natural when you have such a catastrophic failure. Fans, media, players- they're all doing it today. And I'm sure Ryan Poles is taking it all in, too.

I think in the long run, losses like this can actually help. It's not like this loss is going to have a big impact on how far we go in the post season this year. It might wake up Caleb and Waldron to the fact that you can't expect to just play 15 minutes of good football and win- there's no reason we should lose a game when our defense holds a good offense like theirs to just 12 points.

[Dresden]

Tyrique's presser today was solid. I'm still in awe of how nuts that series of seconds unfolded, but hearing from him a bit of the madness of that moment is gone from me. Flus' portion of that press conference though....SMH

Apparently Flus said that it was indeed Tyriques' job to be the deep man on the play, so he really did F$%* it up in a big way. I would seriously consider benching him for a game. There's no excuse for being more worried about jawing with the fans than doing your job. Not to mention the earlier penalty he got, which also could have been very costly. There's a pattern of that with him, and maybe a benching is what it takes for him to get the message that he's got to stop with that nonsense.

[GetBuLLish]

Second guessing is natural when you have such a catastrophic failure. Fans, media, players- they're all doing it today. And I'm sure Ryan Poles is taking it all in, to.

It's not second guessing to criticize an indefensible error.

[IliketheBullsNBearstoo]

Is it even a possibility that we fire Flus or even Waldron early in the season? Just wondering.

[Kurt Heimlich]

Is it even a possibility that we fire Flus or even Waldron early in the season? Just wondering.

He obviously is subpar as NFL head coaches go so yes, its a possibility in terms of "he ain't it". But as we are seeing with the Jets and how they hilariously fired Salah only to just lose lose lose, in season firings for a team that is still theoretically still in the mix is kinda crazy to do. Jets and 41yo AAron obviously aren't in the mix anymore, but at 2-3 when they did the deed they still theoretically were.

[IliketheBullsNBearstoo]

Is it even a possibility that we fire Flus or even Waldron early in the season? Just wondering.

He obviously is subpar as NFL head coaches go so yes, its a possibility in terms of "he ain't it". But as we are seeing with the Jets and how they hilariously fired Salah only to just lose lose lose, in season firings for a team that is still theoretically still in the mix is kinda crazy to do. Jets and 41yo AAron obviously aren't in the mix anymore, but at 2-3 when they did the deed they still theoretically were.

Ok so maybe another loss or 2...

[Kurt Heimlich]

Is it even a possibility that we fire Flus or even Waldron early in the season? Just wondering.

He obviously is subpar as NFL head coaches go so yes, its a possibility in terms of "he ain't it". But as we are seeing with the Jets and how they hilariously fired Salah only to just lose lose lose, in season firings for a team that is still theoretically still in the mix is kinda crazy to do. Jets and 41yo AAron obviously aren't in the mix anymore, but at 2-3 when they did the deed they still theoretically were.

Ok so maybe another loss or 2...

Haha I mean we're gonna lose plenty more. And Flus' job is (or at least should be) absolutely on the line. Lions and Packers are obviously better than us, as expected. Vikings came out the shoot hot, but I've remained skeptical at the talent level, especially defensively. KOC remains a dream HC though *sighs*. 7-10 is in play as an over/under right now, which is obviously zero improvement. And IMO zero improvement is pretty ugly for the setup we had for this season.

[Kurt Heimlich]

Also Jayden vs Caleb in terms of calm/poise is night and day. Jalen is 80BPM all day from a 2nd quarter handoff snap to literally a game winning hail mary. Caleb looks like he's bugging out at 167bpm from snap 1 through the end of the game relative to Jalen with his execution and just mannerism.

[TheGOATRises007]

Damning when the players are smarter than the head coaches.

I know playoffs aren't make or break this season, but I think that loss might kill our playoff hopes and could throw a wrench into the season.

[GetBuLLish]

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If players are saying this publicly, I can't help but wonder they are saying behind closed doors.

And by the way, you don't say these things to the media when you believe in your coaching but disagreed with a couple decisions. You say this because your frustration runs wider than that.

[Kurt Heimlich]

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If players are saying this publicly, I can't help but wonder they are saying behind closed doors.

And by the way, you don't say these things to the media when you believe in your coaching but disagreed with a couple decisions. You say this because your frustration runs wider than that.

Ol Jaylon got that Prince/high voice, has that always been the case? I feel like I've heard him on interviews before and didn't recall it like this lol.

[Betta Bulleavit]

Tyrique's presser today was solid. I'm still in awe of how nuts that series of seconds unfolded, but hearing from him a bit of the madness of that moment is gone from me. Flus' portion of that press conference though....SMH

Apparently Flus said that it was indeed Tyriques' job to be the deep man on the play, so he really did F$%* it up in a big way. I would seriously consider benching him for a game. There's no excuse for being more worried about jawing with the fans than doing your job. Not to mention the earlier penalty he got, which also could have been very costly. There's a pattern of that with him, and maybe a benching is what it takes for him to get the message that he's got to stop with that nonsense.

I don’t know that I’d say it’s a pattern. He’s a good DB that was simply bad in that moment. I’m fine with guys getting benched. But there does need to be a real point behind it.

[dice]

Tyrique's presser today was solid. I'm still in awe of how nuts that series of seconds unfolded, but hearing from him a bit of the madness of that moment is gone from me. Flus' portion of that press conference though....SMH

Apparently Flus said that it was indeed Tyriques' job to be the deep man on the play, so he really did F$%* it up in a big way. I would seriously consider benching him for a game. There's no excuse for being more worried about jawing with the fans than doing your job. Not to mention the earlier penalty he got, which also could have been very costly. There's a pattern of that with him, and maybe a benching is what it takes for him to get the message that he's got to stop with that nonsense.

I don’t know that I’d say it’s a pattern. He’s a good DB that was simply bad in that moment. I’m fine with guys getting benched. But there does need to be a real point behind it.

he's been bad this season and was bad 1st half of last season as well

[dice]

Flus getting destroyed today in the media rightfully so. A truly pathetic showing in game and post game. We've known it for a while and said it out loud for a while. He's a DC. As a gametime CEO, Head Coach, he is truly truly not it.

He punts in every presser with “need to see the tape.” Never owns anything. “We need to get better.”

It’s so out of touch with both Bears football.

He’s like a gentle coach. Can’t stand it.

Come on guys, we don't need a gentle coach. We need a GENTLEMAN coach. I propose Sir William Herschel, discoverer of Uranus.

6 points for randomness

[dice]

I can't get over what a singularly terrible 10 second sequence Reek had at the end there too. I mean truly embarrassing, career definingly horrific and brain dead play. He's a young talented guy so his career certainly isn't over but he's in the Cody Parkey, Steve Bartman Chicago Hall of Shame for a lifetime now.

parkey isn't on bartman's level and tyrique isn't on parkey's level

which begs the question...who is the bulls nominee? hugh hollins?

[dice]

At least we’re not the cowboys or jets

or any team whose coach is on a hotter seat than ours

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would he trade his HS title win for a win yesterday?

[Kurt Heimlich]

I can't get over what a singularly terrible 10 second sequence Reek had at the end there too. I mean truly embarrassing, career definingly horrific and brain dead play. He's a young talented guy so his career certainly isn't over but he's in the Cody Parkey, Steve Bartman Chicago Hall of Shame for a lifetime now.

parkey isn't on bartman's level and tyrique isn't on parkey's level

which begs the question...who is the bulls nominee? hugh hollins?

Haha for me it's always niko mirotic and his crushingly pointless hot streak that cost us Luka back in 2017. But yeah single game moment on the bartman/parkey/tyrique level for bulls....hmmmmm good question!

[dice]

I know it's time for being pissed and blaming coaches and franchise. But there's some things to evaluate Caleb wiht in this game (which is most important thing this season).

(1) He has a special level of IQ for a Rookie QB. I'm really amazed/impressed/excited seeing how capable he is every single time he is able to progress through his reads. Granted, he doesn't get the time to do it much of the time. But his eyes are really impressive.
(2) We know by now he has the special ability to make special passes after extending the play. That Keenan Allen on this week, the Kmet one last week. That's nice to have.

(3) His overthrowing is really really bad. It's the most frustrating and biggest concern to me. Sometimes I think, "well, better to overthrow it than under throw ... or at least he's throwing it where it can't be picked off." But it's become such a consistent issue I think it's just a problem he has. However, this is something that can be fixed, that he can grow with and develop ... those two traits up above are much harder if not impossible to teach.

Yes, in juxtaposition Daniels looks great. But a lot of it is his running and ability to make plays on his feet when there's not something open. We know from our own experience with Fields, this does not make a franchise QB. The other difference is he has a very capable OC that is scheming great plays for him to get ball out quickly to open guys. Daniels does not progress through multiple reads. He doesn't have an insanely accurate arm either (hail mary is 90% luck and some arm power ... doesn't say much about how a QB will turn out). The biggest difference in Daniels success this year is OC/playcalling and a competent oline.

I'm still very excited for Caleb to be our franchise QB. And think this team is prepared to playoff push this year.

Daniels is every bit as talented as Williams. Stop coping.

Yea so far,he's lost to his peers in Stroud and Daniels. Guys that them and Jordan Love are going to be his nemesis for years to come. I know that Caleb didn't surrender the hail Mary, but he did play pretty bad for 3 quarters.

It's early, but trying to lie to yourself bringing these guys down to lift ours up, is not reality

fill in the blank: daniels overtook caleb as redraft #1 after week __

[dice]

Kingsbury was such an obvious hire. How did Ryan Poles muck that up.

He thought Shane was the reason for Genos resurgence when Geno looks better without Shane.. leading the league in passing yards.

Exactly. No brainer for Kingsbury.

Poles biggest blunder will be keeping Flus and letting him hire Waldron.

interestingly, the coach that beat us yesterday and hired kingsbury was beat out by flus for the bears gig. when asked about how his interview went here, quinn said "i'm not their cup of tea"