gobullschi wrote:weneeda2guard wrote:gobullschi wrote:
This type of deal gets done in the offseason. Assuming Washington finishes as a bottom 5 team - forcing Beal's hand to request a trade. (Split the deal into 2 separate moves)
I don't love moving all of those draft picks either (maybe the price is less?), but there is a reason why these types of deals have become a trend in the NBA. You have to create the best opportunity available to put yourself in a situation where you can have three all-star caliber players on your roster.
The Bulls would have enough cap space to make a big signing in the offseason - but that doesn't mean they'll successfully land a top free agent. Fortunately, Bradley Beal and Andre Drummond are childhood friends. So if the Bulls are able to add Beal, that likely puts Chicago at the top of Drummond's list. That's three guys that are 27 years old or younger that have shown elite skills in the NBA. It might not be 'good enough' right away, but LeBron, Irving, Durant, Harden, Curry are all in their 30's. Basketball is a young man's game - and the next generation of players will be taking over in the next 2-3 years.
Plus, I really love the idea of having 4 great outside shooters with Drummond down low - cleaning the glass.
I think what's being missed is the kind of teams that make those deals. Houston, bucks, Brooklyn etc those teams are further in line as far as teams ready to compete for a title. As they saw it (Houston when they got cp3 etc) and others those picks will likely be low teens or in the 20s players coming from the draft who project at best to be role players and with leagues like the g league and 2 way contracts etc have become very expendable. So they will fork over 3-4 potential expendable picks.
We are just not in that place yet and beal does not put us in that place. Also beal and lavine and Drummond does not make us a super team. It def makes us a top 4 team in the east but not a true contender. So do we give up multiple picks for a team that won't be able to get past Brooklyn the bucks or Boston?
And as I posted above we could just sign olidipo and Drummond outright in the off season and be in the same place. Without giving up all those picks.
I agree - teams are usually farther along than this Bulls team before making this type of move but they might sneak into the playoffs.
The NBA landscape will have completely changed in three years and teams like the Nets and Bucks will be on the decline because James Harden will be 34 years old, Kevin Durant will be 35 years old, Kylie will 31 years old, Jrue Holiday will be 34 years old and Middleton will be 32. Guys usually start to fall off in their 30s.
I think the Bulls would match really well against Boston. Especially with a 34 year old Kemba Walker.
You can’t just say “they should just sign these two instead” because that’s not how it works. Free agents have to WANT to come here and it’s usually based on if a team is winning and/or if they have friends on the team. Building a team knowing Beals relationship with Drummond and Billy Donovan would be a strategic move that is realistic.
There’s been multiple reports that Oladipo wants to sign with Miami.
Olidipo and Drummond is just as realistic. Meaning they both are shots in the dark but a slight chance. Honestly Chicago is not fully on anyone's radar until we are a playoff team. Beal although he loves temple and donovan, may still rather go to the bucks, heat, lakers, clippers. The fear here is giving up that much for beal and still not being a playoff team and we just gave up that many picks. I'm not against going after beal I'm against the haul for him. Durant, harden, etc are the kind of stars you trade for that locks you into the playoffs. Beal is not. I'm not willing to part with that many picks for him with no guarantee of even being a top 4 team in the east.
I honestly believe that a
Coby
Porter jr
Lauri
1st rd pick
Pick swap
Is a nice haul for beal and their full rebuild. Maybe a couple more picks if they top 10 protected but not much more than that.
