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[TheStig]

We'll have to disagree on that but I respect your opinion.

You can disagree but they signed one to a long term deal and declined to match an offer sheet on the other. Which do you think they thought was more integral?

They chose the cheaper guy to stay out of the luxury tax and said cheaper guy was traded along with a slew of picks to acquire a different guy.
If said guy they chose was more integral, said guy would still be on the team.

He wasn't that much cheaper and they could have made other moves. They figured Divenczo could grow into the 3 and d guy role Brogdan had. They're also set to pay the LT this year I believe, so I don't think that was the ultimate concern.

And while you talk about investment. They traded picks and assets to get Bledsoe and saw him as a corner stone. Brogdan was a 2nd round pick....

And ofcourse teams trade important players all the time, evaluations and team needs change all the time.

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Norvell was one of the worst players I've ever seen put on a Bulls uniform. And that really is saying something.

I'm sad Shittu had to go, though. He would've provided many opportunities for bad jokes as a garbage time player.

[MrFortune3]

You can disagree but they signed one to a long term deal and declined to match an offer sheet on the other. Which do you think they thought was more integral?

They chose the cheaper guy to stay out of the luxury tax and said cheaper guy was traded along with a slew of picks to acquire a different guy.
If said guy they chose was more integral, said guy would still be on the team.

He wasn't that much cheaper and they could have made other moves. They figured Divenczo could grow into the 3 and d guy role Brogdan had. They're also set to pay the LT this year I believe, so I don't think that was the ultimate concern.

And while you talk about investment. They traded picks and assets to get Bledsoe and saw him as a corner stone. Brogdan was a 2nd round pick....

And ofcourse teams trade important players all the time, evaluations and team needs change all the time.

I had a nice, sophisticated response to this(then my browser crashed and I don't feel like retyping all of that)but I will just say that the value and salary were not separate entities since the Bucks were trying to avoid the luxury tax and chose between the 2 and picked the cheaper guy by over 4 mil per.

[TheStig]

They chose the cheaper guy to stay out of the luxury tax and said cheaper guy was traded along with a slew of picks to acquire a different guy.
If said guy they chose was more integral, said guy would still be on the team.

He wasn't that much cheaper and they could have made other moves. They figured Divenczo could grow into the 3 and d guy role Brogdan had. They're also set to pay the LT this year I believe, so I don't think that was the ultimate concern.

And while you talk about investment. They traded picks and assets to get Bledsoe and saw him as a corner stone. Brogdan was a 2nd round pick....

And ofcourse teams trade important players all the time, evaluations and team needs change all the time.

I had a nice, sophisticated response to this(then my browser crashed and I don't feel like retyping all of that)but I will just say that the value and salary were not separate entities since the Bucks were trying to avoid the luxury tax and chose between the 2 and picked the cheaper guy by over 4 mil per.

The Bucks were over 2 mill under the lux tax. They could have resigned him and just kept a 14th roster spot open all year or not signed a backup center for the MLE last year and gone for someone cheaper.

If you really believed in Brogdan over Bledsoe, you'd take the decrease from Robin Lopez to a cheaper back up C. That's how little the difference was for the team. Or they just thought Bledsoe was there guy.

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[cjbulls]

I know I’m not high on Pat, as much as anyone on here, but Deandre Hunter is a good example of what Pat Will can do if he continually works at his game. Hunter just gets better every year

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Have to free up #25 for when we get Rose home.


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[Dresden]

Lemelo Ball tonight: 1-10, 0-4, 4 assists, 4 turnovers, 4 points in 24 minutes.

[PaKii94]

Lemelo Ball tonight: 1-10, 0-4, 4 assists, 4 turnovers, 4 points in 24 minutes.

My casual nba friend watched his highlights from that 18 point game and can't stop drooling about him... Too bad noone makes consistent low light vids.

[cjbulls]

Lemelo Ball tonight: 1-10, 0-4, 4 assists, 4 turnovers, 4 points in 24 minutes.

My casual nba friend watched his highlights from that 18 point game and can't stop drooling about him... Too bad noone makes consistent low light vids.

Agreed. I wish these vid makers just feature all of the players shots at a minimum, and ideally rebounds, assists, turnovers, steals and blocks.

It's not helpful to just watch highlights of someone hitting 3s or whatever with no context for the rest of the game.

[Darius Miles Davis]

Lemelo Ball tonight: 1-10, 0-4, 4 assists, 4 turnovers, 4 points in 24 minutes.

My casual nba friend watched his highlights from that 18 point game and can't stop drooling about him... Too bad noone makes consistent low light vids.

But those highlights are high:

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[Chi town]

That pass had English on it. Kid has no fear.

[PaKii94]

Lemelo Ball tonight: 1-10, 0-4, 4 assists, 4 turnovers, 4 points in 24 minutes.

My casual nba friend watched his highlights from that 18 point game and can't stop drooling about him... Too bad noone makes consistent low light vids.

But those highlights are high:

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Yes but if that's the only positive, you can still be a net negative player. But highlights don't show that

The potential for the top of the league is definitely there. Will it be actualized? From the prior data we have on him.... I'd guess unlikely. It'll take him at least a couple of years, if ever, to completely mature.

[DuckIII]

He sure can do some crazy **** with the ball. He’s exciting to watch.

[fleet]

Minny may have screwed this up. Of course, the only (top) player that’s actually played professionally has a head start.

[MrSparkle]

Minny may have screwed this up. Of course, the only (top) player that’s actually played professionally has a head start.

Yeah. Early to tell- 2 years from now Edwards could be 25 ppg and a good defender. And LaMelo can still very well end up rough with the scoring short-comings. But I'll make claim that nobody's had his highlight-passing since Kidd. Few have almost been there: Rubio, Rondo, Paul, Nash, but LaMelo's able to do the Magic, Kidd & Jason Williams thing of making the pass more fun to watch than the finish, and like Kidd, he's a virtually useless scorer.

[PrimzyBulls81]

LaMelo has great passes, but I just cant stand a player that shoots maybe 25% from the field and 10% for 3pt LoL! He cant be net positive player..
Maybe he will average 5 pts, 6 rbd and 8 assists, but is that worth top 2 pick? Hell no..

[RSP83]

Minny may have screwed this up. Of course, the only (top) player that’s actually played professionally has a head start.

Yeah. Early to tell- 2 years from now Edwards could be 25 ppg and a good defender. And LaMelo can still very well end up rough with the scoring short-comings. But I'll make claim that nobody's had his highlight-passing since Kidd. Few have almost been there: Rubio, Rondo, Paul, Nash, but LaMelo's able to do the Magic, Kidd & Jason Williams thing of making the pass more fun to watch than the finish, and like Kidd, he's a virtually useless scorer.

IMO Rubio is a special passer as well. Regarding LaMelo, I've been pretty meh with him. The last rookie that really impressed me was Luka, Simmons, and Zion. Those 3 guys were pretty unique and did something I've never seen. Luka is a genius, Simmons is a legit 6'10" PG who is strong and athletic, Zion is just a freak of nature and unstoppable (Shaq-esque).

[DuckIII]

Minny may have screwed this up. Of course, the only (top) player that’s actually played professionally has a head start.

Yeah. Early to tell- 2 years from now Edwards could be 25 ppg and a good defender. And LaMelo can still very well end up rough with the scoring short-comings. But I'll make claim that nobody's had his highlight-passing since Kidd. Few have almost been there: Rubio, Rondo, Paul, Nash, but LaMelo's able to do the Magic, Kidd & Jason Williams thing of making the pass more fun to watch than the finish, and like Kidd, he's a virtually useless scorer.

LaMelo is uniquely exciting to watch. I have to admit, to me, vision and creative passing is the most exciting element a player can have. As a spectator. But as you note that doesn’t mean he’ll be a great player. And to further the point, I agree his vision reminds me of Kidd the most. But Kidd was an amazing and relentless defender as well.

If Melo can’t shoot and can’t defend, it’s a huge problem.
With his passing he can get by without one of those things, but not both.