Bears 7.0: 2024 Season thread

[patryk7754]

I'm genuinely curious to how the convos between Eberflus and Waldron go. Like does eberflus just reaffirm all of Waldron's stupidity.

[Bulls69]

Second guessing is natural when you have such a catastrophic failure. Fans, media, players- they're all doing it today. And I'm sure Ryan Poles is taking it all in, too.

I think in the long run, losses like this can actually help. It's not like this loss is going to have a big impact on how far we go in the post season this year. It might wake up Caleb and Waldron to the fact that you can't expect to just play 15 minutes of good football and win- there's no reason we should lose a game when our defense holds a good offense like theirs to just 12 points.

The game has a ton to do with whether the Bears even make the postseason at all, given how back-loaded the schedule is with difficult divisional games.

This alone tells me that this guy isn't qualified to be a HC in the NFL. He doesn't have the situational awareness or skillset to understand the true x's and o's of strategy! This is our damn Defensive Coordinator who didn't think it was a good idea to guard the line to gain or out of bounds nor did he think it was vital to have our best pass rusher in the game on the final play.

Slap in the face of all fans, he shows ZERO humilty or ownership for his weekly coaching flaws. GET HIS ARSE outta here!

He should have been let go when the Bears decided to draft Caleb I wanted him gone last season. He scares the cr** out of me whenever the Bears are in a tight game late in the game. He always has that clueless look on his face the players can tell.


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[Kurt Heimlich]

I'm genuinely curious to how the convos between Eberflus and Waldron go. Like does eberflus just reaffirm all of Waldron's stupidity.

Waldron has some questionable calls and ways of doing things infamously not having the "first 15" plays set up prior to LITERAL PLAYERS saying "uh hey coach, isn't this like, uh, your job?" along with these comically inept goal line calls.

The issue is we don't have that expert high value decision maker, CEO on the sidelines head coach on this team. Flus has repeatedly demonstrated he is clearly subpar when it comes to those critical traits. So when Waldron is bumbling with his prep and in game calls(ie not doing his job well), Flus is simply obvlious to it and thus does not intervene.

[Dresden]

Everything gets magnified after a crushing loss like this last one. We'll see how Waldron and Flus react to this. It's definitely a big negative on both their evaluation cards. But if the Bears offense can get things turned around and we finish strong it will all be forgotten.

[Almost Retired]

I'm genuinely curious to how the convos between Eberflus and Waldron go. Like does eberflus just reaffirm all of Waldron's stupidity.

Waldron has some questionable calls and ways of doing things infamously not having the "first 15" plays set up prior to LITERAL PLAYERS saying "uh hey coach, isn't this like, uh, your job?" along with these comically inept goal line calls.

The issue is we don't have that expert high value decision maker, CEO on the sidelines head coach on this team. Flus has repeatedly demonstrated he is clearly subpar when it comes to those critical traits. So when Waldron is bumbling with his prep and in game calls(ie not doing his job well), Flus is simply obvlious to it and thus does not intervene.

Memo to Ryan Poles: Don't squander our window for competitiveness. Fire the entire coaching staff one minute after you sign Ben Johnson to be our next head coach after the season. Meet his price. A few Super Bowl visits will have been worth every penny. You've given Flus enough time. He's not head coaching material. He's in over his head. His results demonstrate that. You cut ties with Justin Fields when you realized he wasn't going to get us anywhere. Now you have to make the same tough choice with Flus.

[jnrjr79]

Everything gets magnified after a crushing loss like this last one. We'll see how Waldron and Flus react to this. It's definitely a big negative on both their evaluation cards. But if the Bears offense can get things turned around and we finish strong it will all be forgotten.

My suspicion is if the Bears make the playoffs, people will largely move on, but if they miss out, probably not so much.

[Dresden]

Everything gets magnified after a crushing loss like this last one. We'll see how Waldron and Flus react to this. It's definitely a big negative on both their evaluation cards. But if the Bears offense can get things turned around and we finish strong it will all be forgotten.

My suspicion is if the Bears make the playoffs, people will largely move on, but if they miss out, probably not so much.

It will all come down to those 6 divisional games. I think we need to go at least 2-4 in them in order for the team to feel like it's headed in the right direction. I feel like the offense is really close taking off- this last game was a set back for sure, but there are signs that things are improving. Swift is playing like we hoped he would. We're good in the red zone. Sometimes just minor improvements can create big results. I'm hoping that's the case with the offense, because our defense is already at a top 5-10 level.

[Dresden]

I'm genuinely curious to how the convos between Eberflus and Waldron go. Like does eberflus just reaffirm all of Waldron's stupidity.

Waldron has some questionable calls and ways of doing things infamously not having the "first 15" plays set up prior to LITERAL PLAYERS saying "uh hey coach, isn't this like, uh, your job?" along with these comically inept goal line calls.

The issue is we don't have that expert high value decision maker, CEO on the sidelines head coach on this team. Flus has repeatedly demonstrated he is clearly subpar when it comes to those critical traits. So when Waldron is bumbling with his prep and in game calls(ie not doing his job well), Flus is simply obvlious to it and thus does not intervene.

Is 7 games really enough time to evaluate a new OC, working with a rookie QB and a poor offensive line?

[Kurt Heimlich]

I'm genuinely curious to how the convos between Eberflus and Waldron go. Like does eberflus just reaffirm all of Waldron's stupidity.

Waldron has some questionable calls and ways of doing things infamously not having the "first 15" plays set up prior to LITERAL PLAYERS saying "uh hey coach, isn't this like, uh, your job?" along with these comically inept goal line calls.

The issue is we don't have that expert high value decision maker, CEO on the sidelines head coach on this team. Flus has repeatedly demonstrated he is clearly subpar when it comes to those critical traits. So when Waldron is bumbling with his prep and in game calls(ie not doing his job well), Flus is simply obvlious to it and thus does not intervene.

Is 7 games really enough time to evaluate a new OC, working with a rookie QB and a poor offensive line?

I don't think so. My critique is more with the HC here. Waldron has been incosistent with some dramatic failures, including the whole no first 15 plays thing. Flus is in over his head as an NFL head coach and after that embarrassment on Sunday the whole league/media see's it now too.

[patryk7754]

I'm genuinely curious to how the convos between Eberflus and Waldron go. Like does eberflus just reaffirm all of Waldron's stupidity.

Waldron has some questionable calls and ways of doing things infamously not having the "first 15" plays set up prior to LITERAL PLAYERS saying "uh hey coach, isn't this like, uh, your job?" along with these comically inept goal line calls.

The issue is we don't have that expert high value decision maker, CEO on the sidelines head coach on this team. Flus has repeatedly demonstrated he is clearly subpar when it comes to those critical traits. So when Waldron is bumbling with his prep and in game calls(ie not doing his job well), Flus is simply obvlious to it and thus does not intervene.

Is 7 games really enough time to evaluate a new OC, working with a rookie QB and a poor offensive line?

probably not, but he's been unimaginably bad. he also has his time in Seattle where the pass offense wasn't anything special under him

[jnrjr79]

Everything gets magnified after a crushing loss like this last one. We'll see how Waldron and Flus react to this. It's definitely a big negative on both their evaluation cards. But if the Bears offense can get things turned around and we finish strong it will all be forgotten.

My suspicion is if the Bears make the playoffs, people will largely move on, but if they miss out, probably not so much.

It will all come down to those 6 divisional games. I think we need to go at least 2-4 in them in order for the team to feel like it's headed in the right direction. I feel like the offense is really close taking off- this last game was a set back for sure, but there are signs that things are improving. Swift is playing like we hoped he would. We're good in the red zone. Sometimes just minor improvements can create big results. I'm hoping that's the case with the offense, because our defense is already at a top 5-10 level.

The Bears are 4-3 now. If they go 2-4 in divisional games, setting aside the order in which they will be played, that means a record of 6-7 before accounting for the remaining 4 non-divisional games (Cardinals, Pats, Niners, Seahawks). For Flus to be off the hot seat, I suspect they'd need to take 3 of those 4 to have a winning record, which seems plausible but far from certain.

I honestly feel like the Bears still *could* win 9 or 10 games. I'm sort of suspecting the Vikings to slide a bit. You probably need to win both those games and then try to split the GB/Detroit games, which will be tough.

[patryk7754]

My suspicion is if the Bears make the playoffs, people will largely move on, but if they miss out, probably not so much.

It will all come down to those 6 divisional games. I think we need to go at least 2-4 in them in order for the team to feel like it's headed in the right direction. I feel like the offense is really close taking off- this last game was a set back for sure, but there are signs that things are improving. Swift is playing like we hoped he would. We're good in the red zone. Sometimes just minor improvements can create big results. I'm hoping that's the case with the offense, because our defense is already at a top 5-10 level.

The Bears are 4-3 now. If they go 2-4 in divisional games, setting aside the order in which they will be played, that means a record of 6-7 before accounting for the remaining 4 non-divisional games (Cardinals, Pats, Niners, Seahawks). For Flus to be off the hot seat, I suspect they'd need to take 3 of those 4 to have a winning record, which seems plausible but far from certain.

I honestly feel like the Bears still *could* win 9 or 10 games. I'm sort of suspecting the Vikings to slide a bit. You probably need to win both those games and then try to split the GB/Detroit games, which will be tough.

you can honestly say there's a solid chance we'd be undeafted if it weren't for a comically bad offense game plan. I think our biggest loss was by 6 points. Our defense will keep us in any game. Its just a matter of if our offense can play at an at least college level.

[superdave]

Eberflus will not be the Bears HC next season. Way out of pocket to run a team and his consistent blame-the-player-execution schtick is such a bad look. Take some responsibility for bad playcalling and worse game management. F this guy

[Dresden]

Waldron has some questionable calls and ways of doing things infamously not having the "first 15" plays set up prior to LITERAL PLAYERS saying "uh hey coach, isn't this like, uh, your job?" along with these comically inept goal line calls.

The issue is we don't have that expert high value decision maker, CEO on the sidelines head coach on this team. Flus has repeatedly demonstrated he is clearly subpar when it comes to those critical traits. So when Waldron is bumbling with his prep and in game calls(ie not doing his job well), Flus is simply obvlious to it and thus does not intervene.

Is 7 games really enough time to evaluate a new OC, working with a rookie QB and a poor offensive line?

probably not, but he's been unimaginably bad. he also has his time in Seattle where the pass offense wasn't anything special under him

I agree that the offense has been really stinky, but I think it's too early to say that's on Waldron. They looked at a lot of candidates for that position and they chose Waldron. I have to believe there was a good process that went into making that decision. He ssems to be highly regarded around the league.

[Dresden]

It will all come down to those 6 divisional games. I think we need to go at least 2-4 in them in order for the team to feel like it's headed in the right direction. I feel like the offense is really close taking off- this last game was a set back for sure, but there are signs that things are improving. Swift is playing like we hoped he would. We're good in the red zone. Sometimes just minor improvements can create big results. I'm hoping that's the case with the offense, because our defense is already at a top 5-10 level.

The Bears are 4-3 now. If they go 2-4 in divisional games, setting aside the order in which they will be played, that means a record of 6-7 before accounting for the remaining 4 non-divisional games (Cardinals, Pats, Niners, Seahawks). For Flus to be off the hot seat, I suspect they'd need to take 3 of those 4 to have a winning record, which seems plausible but far from certain.

I honestly feel like the Bears still *could* win 9 or 10 games. I'm sort of suspecting the Vikings to slide a bit. You probably need to win both those games and then try to split the GB/Detroit games, which will be tough.

you can honestly say there's a solid chance we'd be undeafted if it weren't for a comically bad offense game plan. I think our biggest loss was by 6 points. Our defense will keep us in any game. Its just a matter of if our offense can play at an at least college level.

The game plan has been a head scratcher early in the season and last game. Why did they go away from the short passes? It seems they were really drilling into Caleb to take his check downs, and he was doing that. But last game he seemed to revert back to not doing it. Or else the play calling didn't allow for that. I'd like to know what Waldron said to explain that.

[molepharmer]

Is 7 games really enough time to evaluate a new OC, working with a rookie QB and a poor offensive line?

probably not, but he's been unimaginably bad. he also has his time in Seattle where the pass offense wasn't anything special under him

I agree that the offense has been really stinky, but I think it's too early to say that's on Waldron. They looked at a lot of candidates for that position and they chose Waldron. I have to believe there was a good process that went into making that decision. He ssems to be highly regarded around the league.

fwiw - Kmet on his 85 podcast even said he thought Waldron called a good game and that it's up to the players to execute better.

[Bulls69]

Everything gets magnified after a crushing loss like this last one. We'll see how Waldron and Flus react to this. It's definitely a big negative on both their evaluation cards. But if the Bears offense can get things turned around and we finish strong it will all be forgotten.

My suspicion is if the Bears make the playoffs, people will largely move on, but if they miss out, probably not so much.

To be honest I really don’t trust Flus he makes too many bone mistakes I don’t trust him in tight games.


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[nitetrain8603]

probably not, but he's been unimaginably bad. he also has his time in Seattle where the pass offense wasn't anything special under him

I agree that the offense has been really stinky, but I think it's too early to say that's on Waldron. They looked at a lot of candidates for that position and they chose Waldron. I have to believe there was a good process that went into making that decision. He ssems to be highly regarded around the league.

fwiw - Kmet on his 85 podcast even said he thought Waldron called a good game and that it's up to the players to execute better.

Word is the coaching staff and leadership committee had a meeting and Eberflus told the players to keep everything in house. Wouldn’t be shocked if that’s why his response is the way it is.

Or do we think Kmet is all of a sudden okay with being targeted only once, again?


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[MAQ]

I agree that the offense has been really stinky, but I think it's too early to say that's on Waldron. They looked at a lot of candidates for that position and they chose Waldron. I have to believe there was a good process that went into making that decision. He ssems to be highly regarded around the league.

fwiw - Kmet on his 85 podcast even said he thought Waldron called a good game and that it's up to the players to execute better.

Word is the coaching staff and leadership committee had a meeting and Eberflus told the players to keep everything in house. Wouldn’t be shocked if that’s why his response is the way it is.

Or do we think Kmet is all of a sudden okay with being targeted only once, again?


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I didn't hear Kmet's comments directly, but what i was made aware of, he was targeting player effort and professionalism to begin with. Him saying the play calling was fine is in line with him still targeting the players. Not sure if I like him doing that pubically, honestly.