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Re: NBA Trade Thread 

Post#1901 » by ChettheJet » Wed Sep 2, 2020 2:04 pm

youngthegiant wrote:What do you guys think Dunn will cost in a s&t? Denver could use a defensive guard like him, also how does he do against SFs?


Pushing the blind hatred aside. If there's a way to get anything in return for Dunn the Bulls have enough needs that they should try and get something back.

I think the Bulls are done with Dunn three times over, The injury thing has grown old, it's something else every time. He doesn't have the 3pt shooting range which they could have lived without if Porter had been healthy, if Markkanen would have been healthy, if Carter was a threat and had been healthy, but their replacements weren't able to spread the floor so they really needed Dunn to do it. Third was he was at times reluctant to shoot, who knows if he thought he should be passing the ball all the time or what but when he had the shot too often he didn't take it. He could drive to the basket but lacked the jumpshot. He and Harrison were forced to the SF starting job when Porter and Hutchison were injured. He was fine defensively but his lack of shooting combined with Satoransky having a bad year sunk the team at the start of games.

I could easily see Dunn getting 3/$27M and being happy. Any S&T would have to come after the Bulls move Thad Young,maybe Satoransky to see what they get back and if they save any money. DEN has limited options regardless of the length of the deal Grant or Barton could be of use to the Bulls depending on who they receive in trades.

I still think the Dunn and Young look like players the Knicks would want, veterans who are willing to play defense which Thibs values. The also have a roster of players that are either expiring or they have no desire to keep.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread 

Post#1902 » by Hoop Student » Wed Sep 2, 2020 2:11 pm

Sixers acquire: Beal, Bertans

Wizards acquire: #4, #21 (Philly), Wendell Carter, Colby White, Lauri

Bulls acquire: Embiid

Sixers fix their lineup, Wizards get a ton of rebuild value for Beal, and the Bulls get to build around two stars (Lavine and Embiid) with the MAX space to add another (Van Fleet? Heyward?)
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Post#1903 » by wolffy » Wed Sep 2, 2020 2:22 pm

Hoop Student wrote:Sixers acquire: Beal, Bertans

Wizards acquire: #4, #21 (Philly), Wendell Carter, Colby White, Lauri

Bulls acquire: Embiid

Sixers fix their lineup, Wizards get a ton of rebuild value for Beal, and the Bulls get to build around two stars (Lavine and Embiid) with the MAX space to add another (Van Fleet? Heyward?)


Sixers get hosed here
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Post#1904 » by TheSuzerain » Wed Sep 2, 2020 2:25 pm

wolffy wrote:
Hoop Student wrote:Sixers acquire: Beal, Bertans

Wizards acquire: #4, #21 (Philly), Wendell Carter, Colby White, Lauri

Bulls acquire: Embiid

Sixers fix their lineup, Wizards get a ton of rebuild value for Beal, and the Bulls get to build around two stars (Lavine and Embiid) with the MAX space to add another (Van Fleet? Heyward?)


Sixers get hosed here

I mean if you were to build a team around Simmons, Beal and Bertans are excellent pieces to do that.

Now of course you shouldn't build around Simmons, but who am I too question Philly's capacity for incompetence.
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Who fills other team's needs? 

Post#1905 » by ChettheJet » Wed Sep 2, 2020 5:33 pm

So I'm reading this article

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2907052-every-nba-teams-biggest-hole-to-fill-in-free-agency

and of all the Bulls that could get mentioned, it's Shaq Harrison that his guy thinks fills a defensive need for other teams. Maybe he's right, maybe Harrison owes him money so he's pumping him up. But of the teams, OK only 2, that he gets mentioned


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CLE

are there bigger trades with those two teams that could get them Harrison and somebody else, Dunn, Young, Valentine, Felicio, Hutchison, and net the Bulls something?
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Re: Who fills other team's needs? 

Post#1906 » by sco » Wed Sep 2, 2020 6:40 pm

ChettheJet wrote:So I'm reading this article

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2907052-every-nba-teams-biggest-hole-to-fill-in-free-agency

and of all the Bulls that could get mentioned, it's Shaq Harrison that his guy thinks fills a defensive need for other teams. Maybe he's right, maybe Harrison owes him money so he's pumping him up. But of the teams, OK only 2, that he gets mentioned


WASH
CLE

are there bigger trades with those two teams that could get them Harrison and somebody else, Dunn, Young, Valentine, Felicio, Hutchison, and net the Bulls something?

IMO, the Bulls should just let Dunn and Valentine walk without any QO. They are vet min talents. Speaking of which, the one guy who I want them to keep (hopefully on a vet min contract) is Shaq. He is a difference maker on a team with decent offensive talent - a Marcus Smart or Pat Bev type-guy. He also, improved his game year-over-year to give me optimism that his offensive game has near-NBA average upside.

Hutch's situation given his shoulder will make him likely untradeable until the deadline, IMO. BTW, I still think he's got starter upside if he can stay healthy. His defense is above average and his offense improved a lot too.
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Post#1907 » by MrSparkle » Wed Sep 2, 2020 6:41 pm

ChettheJet wrote:So I'm reading this article

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2907052-every-nba-teams-biggest-hole-to-fill-in-free-agency

and of all the Bulls that could get mentioned, it's Shaq Harrison that his guy thinks fills a defensive need for other teams. Maybe he's right, maybe Harrison owes him money so he's pumping him up. But of the teams, OK only 2, that he gets mentioned


WASH
CLE

are there bigger trades with those two teams that could get them Harrison and somebody else, Dunn, Young, Valentine, Felicio, Hutchison, and net the Bulls something?


I feel like Shaq is the guy to keep from the armada of small guards. His defense impacts the game in a pretty noticeable way, and his offense isn't obstructive like Dunn's. He sticks to open 3Ps and running towards rim in transition. Plus he doesn't cost anything, unless a team offers him some absurd amount.

Arci, Dunn, Sato are good bench additions to any playoff team. LAC, LAL, HOU, BOS, PHI, NYK would welcome them. Arci might be a 2nd pick. If Dunn's RFA offer is low, maybe a 2nd rd can come back. Sato I lean towards cap-dump or lateral trade. I think Sato for Elfrid Payton would work. :cry:

Thad could play C for HOU. :dontknow: At $15m, I don't think any contender actually wants him. I suppose DAL or POR could use the PF depth with their injuries. At best, I think you'd get a 2nd round pick or a veteran/contract-dump like Ariza, Hood, THJ, Powell, etc.

Lauri - UTA, PHI, ORL, POR, SAS, OKC
Gafford - DAL, HOU
WCJ - SAS, TOR

Here I think you can look at the realm of acquiring this year's top-20 FRP.
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Re: Who fills other team's needs? 

Post#1908 » by Grodoboldo » Wed Sep 2, 2020 7:27 pm

I've mentioned this in a couple of thread already, but I really think that Sato and Young would be great fits at Portland. Both are versatile two-way veterans that could really add to a contending team's rotation.
In my mind, the trade that would make sense is Sato+Young+#44 for Ariza+Hood+#16.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread 

Post#1909 » by MrFortune3 » Wed Sep 2, 2020 9:20 pm

Hoop Student wrote:Sixers acquire: Beal, Bertans

Wizards acquire: #4, #21 (Philly), Wendell Carter, Colby White, Lauri

Bulls acquire: Embiid

Sixers fix their lineup, Wizards get a ton of rebuild value for Beal, and the Bulls get to build around two stars (Lavine and Embiid) with the MAX space to add another (Van Fleet? Heyward?)


No way Philly is(starts to think about Philly...)you know what, never mind :lol:
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Re: NBA Trade Thread 

Post#1910 » by Chi town » Wed Sep 2, 2020 11:15 pm

Lavine for Herro and filler.

Who says no?
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Post#1911 » by Dez » Wed Sep 2, 2020 11:53 pm

Chi town wrote:Lavine for Herro and filler.

Who says no?

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Re: NBA Trade Thread 

Post#1912 » by gardenofsound » Thu Sep 3, 2020 1:47 pm

S&T Kris Dunn for Luka Doncic

Ok, seriously, what about Markkanen for a draft pick, straight up? I'm looking at Phoenix, Boston, and San Antonio as potential suitors.

Target BPA at #4, whether AKME thinks that's Avdija, Hayes, Haliburton, whoever. Then target BPA at whatever draft slot they can get for Markkanen. I have a felling you'll get some combo of a PG and either a wing or PF. Would be very happy with Hayes/Williams as high potential guys that may strike gold.
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Re: NBA Trade Thread 

Post#1913 » by sco » Thu Sep 3, 2020 1:59 pm

gardenofsound wrote:S&T Kris Dunn for Luka Doncic

Ok, seriously, what about Markkanen for a draft pick, straight up? I'm looking at Phoenix, Boston, and San Antonio as potential suitors.

Target BPA at #4, whether AKME thinks that's Avdija, Hayes, Haliburton, whoever. Then target BPA at whatever draft slot they can get for Markkanen. I have a felling you'll get some combo of a PG and either a wing or PF. Would be very happy with Hayes/Williams as high potential guys that may strike gold.

I am ok with this, but want them then to nab one of Giles or Saric as our FA MLE.
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Post#1914 » by Ugly Duckling » Thu Sep 3, 2020 5:49 pm

Pretty sure LAC's going to beat LAL in 7, which means AD MIGHT come home https://www.inquisitr.com/6258060/anthony-davis-leave-lakers-rep-home-bulls/
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Re: Who fills other team's needs? 

Post#1915 » by MrSparkle » Thu Sep 3, 2020 5:51 pm

Grodoboldo wrote:I've mentioned this in a couple of thread already, but I really think that Sato and Young would be great fits at Portland. Both are versatile two-way veterans that could really add to a contending team's rotation.
In my mind, the trade that would make sense is Sato+Young+#44 for Ariza+Hood+#16.


Well, Ariza and Hood are better fits but they were unavailable and injured. But now they'll have some time to recover. I doubt POR gives up #16 for a combo guard and PF - Blazers are covered there. They desperately need SFs with PF versatility. They can draft somebody like Saddiq Bey.
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Post#1916 » by sco » Thu Sep 3, 2020 6:01 pm

Ugly Duckling wrote:Pretty sure LAC's going to beat LAL in 7, which means AD MIGHT come home https://www.inquisitr.com/6258060/anthony-davis-leave-lakers-repI-home-bulls/

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Re: Who fills other team's needs? 

Post#1917 » by Grodoboldo » Thu Sep 3, 2020 6:09 pm

MrSparkle wrote:
Grodoboldo wrote:I've mentioned this in a couple of thread already, but I really think that Sato and Young would be great fits at Portland. Both are versatile two-way veterans that could really add to a contending team's rotation.
In my mind, the trade that would make sense is Sato+Young+#44 for Ariza+Hood+#16.


Well, Ariza and Hood are better fits but they were unavailable and injured. But now they'll have some time to recover. I doubt POR gives up #16 for a combo guard and PF - Blazers are covered there. They desperately need SFs with PF versatility. They can draft somebody like Saddiq Bey.


Yeah, this trade assumes that they're dead money. If they are close to their usual (latest) self, I don't think it would be a good trade for them.
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Post#1918 » by Dominator83 » Thu Sep 3, 2020 9:07 pm

Ugly Duckling wrote:Pretty sure LAC's going to beat LAL in 7, which means AD MIGHT come home https://www.inquisitr.com/6258060/anthony-davis-leave-lakers-rep-home-bulls/

Jay Wil ldoing us a solid and selling us to AD!
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Post#1919 » by sco » Thu Sep 3, 2020 9:17 pm

Dominater wrote:
Ugly Duckling wrote:Pretty sure LAC's going to beat LAL in 7, which means AD MIGHT come home https://www.inquisitr.com/6258060/anthony-davis-leave-lakers-rep-home-bulls/

Jay Wil ldoing us a solid and selling us to AD!

Dude owes us a good player!
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Re: NBA Trade Thread 

Post#1920 » by ChettheJet » Thu Sep 3, 2020 11:21 pm

gardenofsound wrote:S&T Kris Dunn for Luka Doncic

Ok, seriously, what about Markkanen for a draft pick, straight up? I'm looking at Phoenix, Boston, and San Antonio as potential suitors.

Target BPA at #4, whether AKME thinks that's Avdija, Hayes, Haliburton, whoever. Then target BPA at whatever draft slot they can get for Markkanen. I have a felling you'll get some combo of a PG and either a wing or PF. Would be very happy with Hayes/Williams as high potential guys that may strike gold.



Could happen, I understand Dunn is highly regarded in Dallas, just not by the Mavericks

I think the first option should be to see what they can get for Young and Satoransky. Who they get back for either should fill some hole in the rotation other than the ones they play. As they aren't going to gt a PF for Young or a PG for Satoransky. So it's kind of up in the air what can be done next. But say they get a PG for Young and a SF for Satoransky. Picks might be better but would someone give up a decent pick for either of them?

After they have what they return and you see how the roster shapes up, the next decision would be trading Markkanen for no lower than #10. Can Porter stay healthy and start at the 4, with help from Kornet, Carter and maybe a FA pick up. What position does #4 play and who do they get at #10?

And this doesn't much matter if A Davis wants to come to CHI.

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