OT: Bears Talk - Justin Fields era begins

Stratmaster · Post #1901 » by **Stratmaster** » Sun Sep 19, 2021 5:55 pm

Wow. Cincy trying to take the award for stupidest team in the field today.

When did 3 points a possession and/or field position become insignificant in the NFL?

I get that you can't win with all field goals. But wouldn't 10-0 be better for the Bears?

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Stratmaster · Post #1902 » by **Stratmaster** » Sun Sep 19, 2021 5:58 pm

Dresden wrote:So CIN just went for it on 4th and 2, on the CHI 44, early in the 2nd quarter. Isn't that very similar to what the Bears did last week, that Nagy got roundly blasted for?

Yep and I just blasted Cincy for it.

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IliketheBullsNBearstoo · Post #1903 » by **IliketheBullsNBearstoo** » Sun Sep 19, 2021 5:59 pm

Dresden wrote:So CIN just went for it on 4th and 2, on the CHI 44, early in the 2nd quarter. Isn't that very similar to what the Bears did last week, that Nagy got roundly blasted for?

So this makes it acceptable?

Susan · Post #1904 » by **Susan** » Sun Sep 19, 2021 6:02 pm

Robert Quinn's having his best game as a Bear.

Dresden · Post #1905 » by **Dresden** » Sun Sep 19, 2021 6:03 pm

IliketheBullsNBearstoo wrote:
Dresden wrote:So CIN just went for it on 4th and 2, on the CHI 44, early in the 2nd quarter. Isn't that very similar to what the Bears did last week, that Nagy got roundly blasted for?

So this makes it acceptable?

I think it's becoming more and more common for teams to do this. the analytics point to this being a good play.

Dominator83 · Post #1906 » by **Dominator83** » Sun Sep 19, 2021 6:03 pm

Why does Nagy hate to kick field goals?

Dresden · Post #1907 » by **Dresden** » Sun Sep 19, 2021 6:03 pm

Kindle Vildor- now that's a pretty good name.

IliketheBullsNBearstoo · Post #1908 » by **IliketheBullsNBearstoo** » Sun Sep 19, 2021 6:04 pm

Dresden wrote:
IliketheBullsNBearstoo wrote:
Dresden wrote:So CIN just went for it on 4th and 2, on the CHI 44, early in the 2nd quarter. Isn't that very similar to what the Bears did last week, that Nagy got roundly blasted for?

So this makes it acceptable?

I think it's becoming more and more common for teams to do this. the analytics point to this being a good play.

Absolutely. depends on situation

IliketheBullsNBearstoo · Post #1909 » by **IliketheBullsNBearstoo** » Sun Sep 19, 2021 6:05 pm

Dominater wrote:Why does Nagy hate to kick field goals?

doinkphobia

IliketheBullsNBearstoo · Post #1910 » by **IliketheBullsNBearstoo** » Sun Sep 19, 2021 6:06 pm

Dominater wrote:Why does Nagy hate to kick field goals?

FOMOFG

IliketheBullsNBearstoo · Post #1911 » by **IliketheBullsNBearstoo** » Sun Sep 19, 2021 6:09 pm

I love JJohnson

Susan · Post #1912 » by **Susan** » Sun Sep 19, 2021 6:09 pm

Two minute drill with Justin. This is going to be fun.

chicagoballer · Post #1913 » by **chicagoballer** » Sun Sep 19, 2021 6:10 pm

where is the crowd this game? doesnt seem loud at all.

Dresden · Post #1914 » by **Dresden** » Sun Sep 19, 2021 6:11 pm

Seems like CIN is building their defense on stopping CHI's running game.

Susan · Post #1915 » by **Susan** » Sun Sep 19, 2021 6:13 pm

Bought tickets to the Lions/Bears game in week 4, prices are about to soar.

Stratmaster · Post #1916 » by **Stratmaster** » Sun Sep 19, 2021 6:16 pm

Dresden wrote:
IliketheBullsNBearstoo wrote:
Dresden wrote:So CIN just went for it on 4th and 2, on the CHI 44, early in the 2nd quarter. Isn't that very similar to what the Bears did last week, that Nagy got roundly blasted for?

So this makes it acceptable?

I think it's becoming more and more common for teams to do this. the analytics point to this being a good play.

If you pass up a field goal and get the first down you still have to put the ball in the end zone from 30 yards out. The best td red zone percentage in the NFL last season was 75%. Multiple teams were under 50%.

The average 4th down conversion rate is right at 50%. Well... not for Nagy...but....

Interesting write up on field goal trends although it's a year old:

https://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com/analysis/field-goal-trends-by-the-numbers/

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Post #1917 » by **fleet** » Sun Sep 19, 2021 6:20 pm

Dresden wrote:The Boy Wonder not paying many dividends so far in this game....

Dresden · Post #1918 » by **Dresden** » Sun Sep 19, 2021 6:20 pm

Stratmaster wrote:
Dresden wrote:
IliketheBullsNBearstoo wrote:
So this makes it acceptable?

I think it's becoming more and more common for teams to do this. the analytics point to this being a good play.
If you pass up a field goal and get the first down you still have to put the ball in the end zone from 30 yards out. The best td red zone percentage in the NFL last season was 75%. Multiple teams were under 50%.

The average 4th down conversion rate is right at 50%. Well... not for Nagy...but....

Interesting write up on field goal trends although it's a year old:

https://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com/analysis/field-goal-trends-by-the-numbers/

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A lot of teams will go for it on 4th and short between the 35-45. It's a long fg, or possibly a punt that might only net you 15-25 yards.

IliketheBullsNBearstoo · Post #1919 » by **IliketheBullsNBearstoo** » Sun Sep 19, 2021 6:20 pm

Ok not impressed with Fields. Time for plan E. We're on E for this front office right?

Susan · Post #1920 » by **Susan** » Sun Sep 19, 2021 6:21 pm

Slow this game down in the second half, RPO and let Justin and David carry us home with the occasional play action.