2024 NBA Draft - DA BULLS Edition Pick #11

[Jimmy Forums]

The big question for the Bulls on draft night is "who is this year's Ricky Ledo?"

[JohnnyKILLroy]

Guilty.

But the bad knees! Bone on bone!

Not only did I badly want Blair in that draft, but I spent days relentlessly ripping drafting Taj instead.

Taj ended up being one of my favorite 3-4 Bulls players of all time.

Broke my heart for years that Boozer the bum was starting ahead of Taj. We should’ve spent that Boozer money on a SG.

[othawhitemeat]

Shannon Jr looks like he's an actual solid two way NBA player. Easy pick for me.

But we don't need solid players. We need a great one. Solid players will just prolong the mediocrity for a decade.

This draft is a crap shoot. I mean there is always that chance to leap for faith and get a Giannis, but many times the risks past the top 7 or 8 picks for risks ending up busting more than existing. Then you got to look at development from coaches and surrounding. I could go on a long tangent, and while you don't to settle for a Doug McDermott type athlete and hope he is Klay Thompson, TSJ is very athletic and has upside. It just may be you are getting a 10-15 ppg scorer that plays great d and can be a piece versus the small chance of a Ron Holland living up to the bill or busting out of the league in 4 years.

[AshyLarrysDiaper]

If the Bulls draft Knecht, I’ll be forced to refer to him as Andres Nocioni 2.0.

This is a much more optimistic view of Knecht's impact than I have.

[HomoSapien]

Austin Rivers is a natural as a TV draft analyst. Its downright amazing that he shares a desk with Perk.

better than his dad

I actually really like Doc as a broadcaster too. Agree on Austin, he’s made for TV.

[JohnnyKILLroy]

If the Bulls draft Knecht, I’ll be forced to refer to him as Andres Nocioni 2.0.

This is a much more optimistic view of Knecht's impact than I have.

Noc dunking on Stewy - 4 EVA FTW !!!!

[TheSuzerain]

The big question for the Bulls on draft night is "who is this year's Ricky Ledo?"

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[Muzbar]

Guilty.

But the bad knees! Bone on bone!

Not only did I badly want Blair in that draft, but I spent days relentlessly ripping drafting Taj instead.

Taj ended up being one of my favorite 3-4 Bulls players of all time.

You and me both Duck, get out of my head.

[DuckIII]

The big question for the Bulls on draft night is "who is this year's Ricky Ledo?"

[JohnnyKILLroy]

MANUALRAM WHERE YOU AT ?

Sadface - especially this time of the year.

[boundbymusic]

So the only whiff of smoke we have gotten today on anything Bulls related is that they like TSJ and if Playoff P leaves LAC we may have a landing spot for a DeRozan S&T?

[Ben Wilson25]

Silvy put up a poll on Twitter this afternoon asking if Bulls fans are confident that AK will get it right tonight in the draft. With 4000+ responses so far 95.5% say no, he will not get it right.

[DuckIII]

So the only whiff of smoke we have gotten today on anything Bulls related is that they like TSJ and if Playoff P leaves LAC we may have a landing spot for a DeRozan S&T?

Seems like all the pre-draft **** went down last night. I take the day off work every year for the draft and have been online and watching all the pre-draft shows and there's nothing going on. Nothing new being reported.

[Peelboy]

I'm putting all the chips and hope in on Terrence Shannon Jr.

He's the best player in this draft, at 24 he should be. One just has to decide if they think he's done developing or not, I think he'll continue to get better.

So if he's starting ahead of everyone else and keeps getting better - no one in this class will ever catch him.

Maybe his age means he's only of value for 8 years.

Everyone dreams of drafting someone who plays for them for 20 years. That's unrealistic. Getting 8 good year out of a guy is a success.

Ayo and Shannon will be two of the fastest players in the entire NBA. They'll be electric to watch.


My fear is we draft Cody Williams and he, Pat, and Julian Phillips struggle to score more points than words they say in a year.

One other thing about TSJ, as an Illini fan, I have watched him and he's got a great work ethic. Reminds me a lot of Ayo that way. Whatever his ceiling is, he'll do what he can to reach it. And he's a good team guy (another similarity). Really, he's like Ayo except bigger and faster and with a better 3 coming out of college. I think he'll be a steal for some team in the back half of the 1st or 2d. Id love the Bulls to trade down for him.

At 11, the only concern is you want a guy who's got a bit more star upside. I think TSJ can be an all-star level player in time, maybe in this draft that's enough. The other thing is with Ayo, Coby, Giddey, you'd be adding another wing (although at 6/6" and with an NBA body, he should be able to swing to the 3). Lavine for Isaac+18 and TSJ+ one of Edey/Ware/Filipowski would be fine by me to revamp the team around youth, then just need to S&T DeMar and see what you can get for Vuc.

[Brothaman33]

I watched Illinois all year (shameless Illinois fan)... TJ has some intriguing traits but he does has some real concerns as well. 11 would be way to high in any draft...except maybe this one.

On the positive side
- He is legit blazing in the open court, like, will be one of the fastest players in the open court immediatly.
- He is huge for a wing, 6'6" 225 and uses it all very well.
- Relentless worker and plays super hard every minute he's on the court. He can defend at a super high level when he's focused as well.
- Gets to the free throw line at a super high rate.

BUT...

- His handle is shaky and his right had is VERY suspect. He gets going so fast in the open court that he can't control the ball and gets sped up way too fast. He is going to get alot of charges and turnovers.
- The shot is questionable. The % looks OK but he is super streaky and his feet sometimes go all over the place. Rarely squares up and gets his feet set, we we've seen some really bad misses.
- He can get to the rim, but his actual finishing ability is just average. There isnt much in the bag and far as layup packages. He wants to run by you and shoot a running lay up with the left had. He has no real start/stop or brakes or shiftyness or difference in tempo. He is %100 all the time on a drive, he's either going to get by you for a layup, get fouled, get a charge or run you the f*ck over.
- He's prolly close to a finished product. He's a 3 and D wing who you hope can shoot it a little better, but I would not hope for alot more then that.

I have no concerns at all about the character stuff. I followed the case pretty close and he was found not guilty in 80 minutes with almost no evidence he did anything wrong.

I would have him late first to early second round in any other draft. As an Illinois fan, it would be really cool to see both of them on the Bulls, but I see him as a nice depth piece/role player who can be exciting at times. I hope he proves me very wrong.

[waffle]

This FO strikes me as too conservative and not very forward thinking. They have done SO FEW moves over their tenure. I suspect they will try to do something with the 11th but will ask for too much or get cold feet.

In other words, not hopeful

[DuckIII]

Silvy put up a poll on Twitter this afternoon asking if Bulls fans are confident that AK will get it right tonight in the draft. With 4000+ responses so far 95.5% say no, he will not get it right.

As a general matter, I love the publicly demonstrable nature of that negativity. They have been so bad that its good for the organization to see how fans feel in black and white like that.

However as much as I hate AK, I'm not terrified of his drafting decisions like a lot of posters are. I consider the Dalen Terry pick to be epically bad and terrifying, but I liked the Pat Williams pick and always will regardless of what happens with him, and obviously the Ayo pick was terrific. Phillips looks like a nice second rounder. I make fun of Sanogo and what it says about AK that he signed him, but he technically was not a draft pick.

Its a mixed bag.

Let me put it this way. I trust - or perhaps a better way to say it is that I don't distrust - his ability to identify a draft prospect. And given how many needs we have it greatly increases the likelihood that he identifies a prospect who actually makes sense to forming a logically cohesive unit.

But that is where the concern I do have comes in. Can he identify a good prospect who ALSO makes sense for our team after the Giddey trade? That is where his vision has been especially questionable across all types of moves.

[boozapalooza]

So the only whiff of smoke we have gotten today on anything Bulls related is that they like TSJ and if Playoff P leaves LAC we may have a landing spot for a DeRozan S&T?

Only other rumor that caught my eye comes from the droppingdimes twitter burner acct that broke much of the news last year, he reactivated his account recently, and says Klay leaving GS is a done deal.

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[Ben Wilson25]

Rob Dillingham reminds me a bit of Monta Ellis but it remains to be seen if Rob Dillingham have it all.

[rosenthall]

Shannon Jr looks like he's an actual solid two way NBA player. Easy pick for me.

But we don't need solid players. We need a great one. Solid players will just prolong the mediocrity for a decade.

I think a prospect's floor is an underrated indicator of their ceiling. One reason I like Shannon is I think he has more upside than his age suggests, mostly because I see his stats being backed by very strong physical ability, and not just advanced skills / usage that won't carry over to the pros.

To me he's this year's Jalen Williams. Williams had great combine results, a 7'2 wingspan and good advanced stats with 50/40/80 shooting. But he wasn't picked higher because he didn't come with the pedigree of having high potential, even though looking back it seems like his performance should have been better forecasted.