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Re: Melo 12: RealGM takes over the United Center 

Post#1941 » by kurtatx » Wed Jul 2, 2014 4:18 am

Red Larrivee wrote:Frank Isola wrote some interesting stuff:


"Gibson's presence is also significant because it has previously been reported that the Bulls would attempt to trade Gibson in order to create additional salary-cap space for Anthony. However, the Bulls stressed to Anthony that in order to be a legitimate title contender it is important for the club to retain both Gibson and Jimmy Butler.

According to a source, Anthony wants both players to stay even if it means that Anthony will have to sign for significantly less than the maximum the Knicks can offer, $129 million over five years. Coincidentally, the Knicks essentially gutted their roster to acquire Anthony from the Denver Nuggets in February of 2011, and Anthony realizes that he would have to make financial sacrifices if he wants to pursue a title with the Bulls."

So Melo is legit about taking a pay cut.


I think most of us agree if Anthony wants to win and is willing to take less money, the Bulls are his best option outside the huge pay cut he would take in Miami.
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Re: Melo 12: RealGM takes over the United Center 

Post#1942 » by Droseisthe1 » Wed Jul 2, 2014 4:19 am

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Red Larrivee wrote:Frank Isola wrote some interesting stuff:


Gibson's presence is also significant because it has previously been reported that the Bulls would attempt to trade Gibson in order to create additional salary-cap space for Anthony. However, the Bulls stressed to Anthony that in order to be a legitimate title contender it is important for the club to retain both Gibson and Jimmy Butler.

According to a source, Anthony wants both players to stay even if it means that Anthony will have to sign for significantly less than the maximum the Knicks can offer, $129 million over five years. Coincidentally, the Knicks essentially gutted their roster to acquire Anthony from the Denver Nuggets in February of 2011, and Anthony realizes that he would have to make financial sacrifices if he wants to pursue a title with the Bulls.

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Re: Melo 12: RealGM takes over the United Center 

Post#1943 » by Magilla_Gorilla » Wed Jul 2, 2014 4:19 am

Red Larrivee wrote:Frank Isola wrote some interesting stuff:


"Gibson's presence is also significant because it has previously been reported that the Bulls would attempt to trade Gibson in order to create additional salary-cap space for Anthony. However, the Bulls stressed to Anthony that in order to be a legitimate title contender it is important for the club to retain both Gibson and Jimmy Butler.

According to a source, Anthony wants both players to stay even if it means that Anthony will have to sign for significantly less than the maximum the Knicks can offer, $129 million over five years. Coincidentally, the Knicks essentially gutted their roster to acquire Anthony from the Denver Nuggets in February of 2011, and Anthony realizes that he would have to make financial sacrifices if he wants to pursue a title with the Bulls."

So Melo is legit about taking a pay cut.


Damn - Isola says Melo wants both Butler and Taj sticking around?

Melo could average 27 and Rose 25 and the rest of them boys shut down the opposition.
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Re: Melo 12: RealGM takes over the United Center 

Post#1944 » by logical_art » Wed Jul 2, 2014 4:19 am

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logical_art wrote:Assuming we have to give up something of value to get Melo, I think giving up McDermott makes the most sense given his positional overlap with Melo.


The Bulls drafted Dougie to play with a guy like Melo.


a) Who else is a guy like Melo besides Melo? b) How do you know this?
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Re: Melo 12: RealGM takes over the United Center 

Post#1945 » by Jeffster81 » Wed Jul 2, 2014 4:20 am

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Droseisthe1 wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/Chris_Broussard/status/484186499584651264[/tweet]

Good thing Bulls have other teams lined up to take the Booze cruise.


I'm riding the three-team LA/Chi/NY deal. Bulls end up with Melo and Pau.


I'm jumping on this train.
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Re: Melo 12: RealGM takes over the United Center 

Post#1946 » by Droseisthe1 » Wed Jul 2, 2014 4:20 am

Magilla_Gorilla wrote:
Red Larrivee wrote:Frank Isola wrote some interesting stuff:


"Gibson's presence is also significant because it has previously been reported that the Bulls would attempt to trade Gibson in order to create additional salary-cap space for Anthony. However, the Bulls stressed to Anthony that in order to be a legitimate title contender it is important for the club to retain both Gibson and Jimmy Butler.

According to a source, Anthony wants both players to stay even if it means that Anthony will have to sign for significantly less than the maximum the Knicks can offer, $129 million over five years. Coincidentally, the Knicks essentially gutted their roster to acquire Anthony from the Denver Nuggets in February of 2011, and Anthony realizes that he would have to make financial sacrifices if he wants to pursue a title with the Bulls."

So Melo is legit about taking a pay cut.


Damn - Isola says Melo wants both Butler and Taj sticking around?

Melo could average 27 and Rose 25 and the rest of them boys shut down the opposition.



If this is true, screw the S & T and amnesty Booz right now!
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Re: Melo 12: RealGM takes over the United Center 

Post#1947 » by MalikJoakim24 » Wed Jul 2, 2014 4:21 am

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Re: Melo 12: RealGM takes over the United Center 

Post#1948 » by randybrown » Wed Jul 2, 2014 4:21 am

Red Larrivee wrote:Frank Isola wrote some interesting stuff:


"Gibson's presence is also significant because it has previously been reported that the Bulls would attempt to trade Gibson in order to create additional salary-cap space for Anthony. However, the Bulls stressed to Anthony that in order to be a legitimate title contender it is important for the club to retain both Gibson and Jimmy Butler.

According to a source, Anthony wants both players to stay even if it means that Anthony will have to sign for significantly less than the maximum the Knicks can offer, $129 million over five years. Coincidentally, the Knicks essentially gutted their roster to acquire Anthony from the Denver Nuggets in February of 2011, and Anthony realizes that he would have to make financial sacrifices if he wants to pursue a title with the Bulls."

So Melo is legit about taking a pay cut.


Heat doing it only helps Bulls
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Re: Melo 12: RealGM takes over the United Center 

Post#1949 » by SteelerSpartan » Wed Jul 2, 2014 4:22 am

Red Larrivee wrote:Frank Isola wrote some interesting stuff:


"Gibson's presence is also significant because it has previously been reported that the Bulls would attempt to trade Gibson in order to create additional salary-cap space for Anthony. However, the Bulls stressed to Anthony that in order to be a legitimate title contender it is important for the club to retain both Gibson and Jimmy Butler.

According to a source, Anthony wants both players to stay even if it means that Anthony will have to sign for significantly less than the maximum the Knicks can offer, $129 million over five years. Coincidentally, the Knicks essentially gutted their roster to acquire Anthony from the Denver Nuggets in February of 2011, and Anthony realizes that he would have to make financial sacrifices if he wants to pursue a title with the Bulls."

So Melo is legit about taking a pay cut.


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Re: Melo 12: RealGM takes over the United Center 

Post#1950 » by Droseisthe1 » Wed Jul 2, 2014 4:22 am

kurtatx wrote:
Red Larrivee wrote:Frank Isola wrote some interesting stuff:


"Gibson's presence is also significant because it has previously been reported that the Bulls would attempt to trade Gibson in order to create additional salary-cap space for Anthony. However, the Bulls stressed to Anthony that in order to be a legitimate title contender it is important for the club to retain both Gibson and Jimmy Butler.

According to a source, Anthony wants both players to stay even if it means that Anthony will have to sign for significantly less than the maximum the Knicks can offer, $129 million over five years. Coincidentally, the Knicks essentially gutted their roster to acquire Anthony from the Denver Nuggets in February of 2011, and Anthony realizes that he would have to make financial sacrifices if he wants to pursue a title with the Bulls."

So Melo is legit about taking a pay cut.


I think most of us agree if Anthony wants to win and is willing to take less money, the Bulls are his best option outside the huge pay cut he would take in Miami.



Red Larivee, where did you find the Isola thing? Links people please!
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Re: Melo 12: RealGM takes over the United Center 

Post#1951 » by kingkirk » Wed Jul 2, 2014 4:22 am

Rerisen wrote:Not seeing this. Because LeBron is not taking less to win.

And Melo seems himself more still on the LeBron tier than he does a broken down Wade or castrated Bosh level.


We don't know what Lebron is accepting.

One report says he want's the max. Another says he wants a max deal over 1-2 years, other say he is taking less.

The point remains. If Melo wants to win, be it in CHI, HOU, NY or wherever, him taking on 22m or a figure close to that diminishes his chances.

Finding that equilibrium between money and winning is what today sure have been about.
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Re: Melo 12: RealGM takes over the United Center 

Post#1952 » by MalikJoakim24 » Wed Jul 2, 2014 4:23 am

Droseisthe1 wrote:
kurtatx wrote:
Red Larrivee wrote:Frank Isola wrote some interesting stuff:


"Gibson's presence is also significant because it has previously been reported that the Bulls would attempt to trade Gibson in order to create additional salary-cap space for Anthony. However, the Bulls stressed to Anthony that in order to be a legitimate title contender it is important for the club to retain both Gibson and Jimmy Butler.

According to a source, Anthony wants both players to stay even if it means that Anthony will have to sign for significantly less than the maximum the Knicks can offer, $129 million over five years. Coincidentally, the Knicks essentially gutted their roster to acquire Anthony from the Denver Nuggets in February of 2011, and Anthony realizes that he would have to make financial sacrifices if he wants to pursue a title with the Bulls."

So Melo is legit about taking a pay cut.


I think most of us agree if Anthony wants to win and is willing to take less money, the Bulls are his best option outside the huge pay cut he would take in Miami.



Red Larivee, where did you find the Isola thing? Links people please!

yeah a source would be nice, want to read the piece.
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Re: Melo 12: RealGM takes over the United Center 

Post#1953 » by Ricky ROY Rubio » Wed Jul 2, 2014 4:23 am

bulls dinner ended just before ten. that means the meloman was with us for at least nine hours today.
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Re: Melo 12: RealGM takes over the United Center 

Post#1954 » by MalikJoakim24 » Wed Jul 2, 2014 4:24 am

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Re: Melo 12: RealGM takes over the United Center 

Post#1955 » by chitowndish » Wed Jul 2, 2014 4:24 am

I really do think Melo could have just got the max by asking for it. I think that was a huge positive for us actually because they clearly did it in response to how well our recruiting was going. I mean that's a total desperation move and it just shows how worried they are.

But overall man what an awesome pitch! I mean pretty much everyone's fantasy in this thread came true you had Rahm, you had the Rose workout, you even had Gar and Thibs leaving together at the end of the night. I mean that's almost like they took everything people wanted in this thread and then went and did it.

I'm just really happy with how much Rose came through. I guess first of all because nobody would want him to do that if he wasn't healthy so that's huge, and just hopefully that's enough to get people off his back. I mean that's pretty amazing. I guess he's still kind of gotten ripped even after that but you really couldn't expect him to do more than he did tonight. Honestly I'm really proud of all of them that was an amazing effort. No matter what happens with Melo it's just cool to see everyone come together. I really think it's in the bag, like I said the Knicks were probably going to wait for the end of the FA train to back up the brinks truck but we forced their hand. That's pretty amazing. If Melo does take that whatever it was cool to see the bulls pull out all the stops like that and no matter what hopefully Rose can take a little less crap because that was huge.
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Re: Melo 12: RealGM takes over the United Center 

Post#1956 » by Polynice4Pippen » Wed Jul 2, 2014 4:24 am

HomoSapien wrote:
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Whoa now. Chances are he ended up "recruiting" in a large part because of all the bashing he received. It's also starting to seem as if that Noah tweet may have been directed at him. Either way, it's becoming pretty clear that the rest of the Bulls viewed it to be important that he actually participate in this process.

No point in saying that people jumped the gun. They didn't. He straight up said he wasn't going to recruit, and that's what people reacted to.


The bolded part is pure speculation and you know it. Can't just try and pass that off as fact. And Derrick said he doesn't recruit as a general rule, but it was also reported that he and his camp had already reached out to Melo (recruiting), yet people chose to downplay that little note. Bottom line, he recruited Melo when lots of people prematurely bashed him for not being willing to do so. They were wrong, they jumped the gun with the bashing.


I said "chances are ..." so obviously there was no attempt to sell it as fact. I just found the attempt to take a dig at other posters for reacting to something that Rose directly said to be pretty lame.


Let's be real, people spent the last 48 hours sullying Derrick's character and integrity over something that didn't even happen. I'm sorry, but folks deserve to get called out for that. As was reported, Derrick and his camp had already reached out to Melo, there was no reason to believe he wasn't part of the recruiting efforts just because of a generic, throw away line about not recruiting. It's all good though, glad Derrick, Jo and Taj stepped up, hopefully we see Melo in a Bulls uniform.
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Re: Melo 12: RealGM takes over the United Center 

Post#1957 » by logical_art » Wed Jul 2, 2014 4:25 am

Red Larrivee wrote:Frank Isola wrote some interesting stuff:


"Gibson's presence is also significant because it has previously been reported that the Bulls would attempt to trade Gibson in order to create additional salary-cap space for Anthony. However, the Bulls stressed to Anthony that in order to be a legitimate title contender it is important for the club to retain both Gibson and Jimmy Butler.

According to a source, Anthony wants both players to stay even if it means that Anthony will have to sign for significantly less than the maximum the Knicks can offer, $129 million over five years. Coincidentally, the Knicks essentially gutted their roster to acquire Anthony from the Denver Nuggets in February of 2011, and Anthony realizes that he would have to make financial sacrifices if he wants to pursue a title with the Bulls."

So Melo is legit about taking a pay cut.


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Post#1958 » by randybrown » Wed Jul 2, 2014 4:25 am

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Rerisen wrote:Not seeing this. Because LeBron is not taking less to win.

And Melo seems himself more still on the LeBron tier than he does a broken down Wade or castrated Bosh level.


We don't know what Lebron is accepting.

One report says he want's the max. Another says he wants a max deal over 1-2 years, other say he is taking less.

The point remains. If Melo wants to win, be it in CHI, HOU, NY or wherever, him taking on 22m or a figure close to that diminishes his chances.

Finding that equilibrium between money and winning is what today sure have been about.


If Lebron has an opt out after next year, hurts Bulls helps Knicks.
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Re: Melo 12: RealGM takes over the United Center 

Post#1959 » by Chi » Wed Jul 2, 2014 4:25 am

The #Knicks won't do a sign-and-trade with the #Bulls that includes Boozer. (Via @Chris_Broussard)
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Re: Melo 12: RealGM takes over the United Center 

Post#1960 » by MalikJoakim24 » Wed Jul 2, 2014 4:25 am

johnnyvann840 wrote:Holy Crap! In the madness of today, I just realized I became a RealGM. 10K. Somebody and 1 my ass.

Thanks to everybody here, I spent half of today laughing my ass off and did absolutely nothing.

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