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[SherronShabazz]

Oh man can you imagine if we had Melo.........

and when did Lebron become so clutch

we would not have had scoring droughts that's for sure.

lebron has always been clutch to me. he's super focused now though.

[jservs7]

i agree 100%. a buddy of mine loves lebron and said, "i don't understand why everyone hates lebron because he's the best player in the world."

i said dude... people don't hate him because he's a great player, they hate him because he's a douche.

he of course replied, but michael jordan was a douche!!

And again, I might be biased, but there is a big difference between being competitive and being a douche.

[SherronShabazz]

Sherron I'm holding out hope that Jo was in a funk towards the end of the year because he had to play all his @#$% minutes with Booz.

I still believe he was confused all year as to what to do to cover for Booz on D. & didn't mesh well with him on O.

it's possible. his offense was a lot worse when he returned from the injury. he'll be better next year.

[SherronShabazz]

i agree 100%. a buddy of mine loves lebron and said, "i don't understand why everyone hates lebron because he's the best player in the world."

i said dude... people don't hate him because he's a great player, they hate him because he's a douche.

he of course replied, but michael jordan was a douche!!

And again, I might be biased, but there is a big difference between being competitive and being a douche.

agreed. i never saw mj dance during a game.

[SherronShabazz]

I met this nice young lady at the game.

[pduh01]

Let's be fair about Boozer & Noah

Noah was great before the injury and when Boozer went down both haven't play together much and when Noah is done with the injury then comes Boozer.

Boozer play his best game in long stretches in terms of consistency was in December ever since he twist his ankle the first time and come back he wasn't the same, and then it seems like he's healthy or whatever he still suck. Noah come back not the same guy like Boozer show some good flashes both need to get use to each other and build chemistry together this summer the thing in games both needed to STAY HEALTHY!

Probably more problem with Boozer is that he is going to be 30 and he may get much worse and while I believe Noah will get better hopefully his worth ethics will continue to work out this summer like he did the last the few years.

I am all for trading Boozer but if you look to trade Boozer you better get a scoring PF back in return or at least a superstar in return or if you trade him and not get a superstar in return or at least a scoring PF in return you are back to square one. You do not want to get back to square one period.

[WinCity]

Ill bet money it was Pax who went off within earshot of a reporter about trading Booz. Pax is the kind of guy who would blow up like that. And given Booz's performance I wouldn't blame him for feeling this way. Not only was he bad on D he doesn't give effort. Even OG Kurt can move his feet to rotate, Booz should be able to at least match Kurt at that! Its clearly not ability its effort. On offense has been purtrid, so basically all we got was rebounding.

[WinCity]

Sherron I'm holding out hope that Jo was in a funk towards the end of the year because he had to play all his @#$% minutes with Booz.

I still believe he was confused all year as to what to do to cover for Booz on D. & didn't mesh well with him on O.

This is a good point. You can argue that Booz was a net drag not just on the D as a whole but on Noah as a player. Being the kind of guy he is Noah will struggle on both ends, not just one. When he gets frustrated on D it affects his offense as well.

Booz was just a drag all together from Feb as he struggled to score.

[Wizard of POOH]

Bye Bye Carlos.

[bullsnewdynasty]

Doesn't Paxson have a reputation as a hothead?

Not surprising actually.

[imagge]

Ill bet money it was Pax who went off within earshot of a reporter about trading Booz. Pax is the kind of guy who would blow up like that. And given Booz's performance I wouldn't blame him for feeling this way. Not only was he bad on D he doesn't give effort. Even OG Kurt can move his feet to rotate, Booz should be able to at least match Kurt at that! Its clearly not ability its effort. On offense has been purtrid, so basically all we got was rebounding.

I'm on the get Andrea Bargnani train.\

He does what bosh does for miami he clears the lane of a big body so Wade and Ledouche can drive the lane and if you choose to sag off he can burn you with the 18 footer or the 3pt shot. He has post moves and can run the floor.

[WinCity]

Ill bet money it was Pax who went off within earshot of a reporter about trading Booz. Pax is the kind of guy who would blow up like that. And given Booz's performance I wouldn't blame him for feeling this way. Not only was he bad on D he doesn't give effort. Even OG Kurt can move his feet to rotate, Booz should be able to at least match Kurt at that! Its clearly not ability its effort. On offense has been purtrid, so basically all we got was rebounding.

I'm on the get Andrea Bargnani train.\

He does what bosh does for miami he clears the lane of a big body so Wade and Ledouche can drive the lane and if you choose to sag off he can burn you with the 18 footer or the 3pt shot. He has post moves and can run the floor.

Honestly, when healthy Booz is probably still better. Not sure Bargs is the answer. Now if Pax is responding to something more than what we know, e.g. Booz being a locker room problem than yes you trade him for a lesser player.

[nitric0]

There was a lot of talk among reporters about Boozer not coming back. In my mind who wants him? He's un-tradeable. But a ton of people are certain that Boozer won't be back.

This put a smile on my face

[imagge]

Ill bet money it was Pax who went off within earshot of a reporter about trading Booz. Pax is the kind of guy who would blow up like that. And given Booz's performance I wouldn't blame him for feeling this way. Not only was he bad on D he doesn't give effort. Even OG Kurt can move his feet to rotate, Booz should be able to at least match Kurt at that! Its clearly not ability its effort. On offense has been purtrid, so basically all we got was rebounding.

I'm on the get Andrea Bargnani train.\

He does what bosh does for miami he clears the lane of a big body so Wade and Ledouche can drive the lane and if you choose to sag off he can burn you with the 18 footer or the 3pt shot. He has post moves and can run the floor.

[ChiCitySPORTS#1]

"ship his ass out"

[ManualRam]

Ill bet money it was Pax who went off within earshot of a reporter about trading Booz. Pax is the kind of guy who would blow up like that. And given Booz's performance I wouldn't blame him for feeling this way. Not only was he bad on D he doesn't give effort. Even OG Kurt can move his feet to rotate, Booz should be able to at least match Kurt at that! Its clearly not ability its effort. On offense has been purtrid, so basically all we got was rebounding.

I'm on the get Andrea Bargnani train.\

He does what bosh does for miami he clears the lane of a big body so Wade and Ledouche can drive the lane and if you choose to sag off he can burn you with the 18 footer or the 3pt shot. He has post moves and can run the floor.

Honestly, when healthy Booz is probably still better. Not sure Bargs is the answer. Now if Pax is responding to something more than what we know, e.g. Booz being a locker room problem than yes you trade him for a lesser player.

we brought boozer in for his offense. bargs is a better offensive player. he and noah wouldnt be stepping on eachother's toes. he would free up the paint more for derrick and he'd be a much better pick n pop option.

imagine a lineup of derrick, jr smith, deng, bargnani and noah.
flatten it out, run a 1-4 set. who is the opposition gonna help off of? noah maybe. derrick can take on 2, just not 3-4 defenders which is what he had to do all playoffs.

for someone who's supposedly a 20/10 player, help defenders dont exactly respect boozer. it was joel anthony who was checking boozer. who was bothering derrick's shots at the rim?
they wont be helping off of bargnani like they do with boozer.

[pduh01]

I am all for Bargnani but I do not think the Raptors are trading him unless there is something I don't know about even so I doubt they get Boozer unless we sweaten the pot which I am think they would want Noah in the deal.

Maybe Asik included.

[WinCity]

we brought boozer in for his offense. bargs is a better offensive player. he and noah wouldnt be stepping on eachother's toes. he would free up the paint more for derrick and he'd be a much better pick n pop option.

imagine a lineup of derrick, jr smith, deng, bargnani and noah.
flatten it out, run a 1-4 set. who is the opposition gonna help off of? noah maybe. derrick can take on 2, just not 3-4 defenders which is what he had to do all playoffs.

for someone who's supposedly a 20/10 player, help defenders dont exactly respect boozer. it was joel anthony who was checking boozer. who was bothering derrick's shots at the rim?
they wont be helping off of bargnani like they do with boozer.

I think Anthony leaving Booz has as much to do with Rose not dishing to bigs in traffic as well as you see say Nash or Williams do. I love me some Rose and all but lets be honest he tends to go for his own shot in traffic whereas other PG's pass off. I can recall a ton of times seeing a defender come off Booz and Rose take a tough shot in the paint rather than dish, granted he is awesome at it but that is his M.O. That wouldnt change with Barhs either.

[imagge]

we brought boozer in for his offense. bargs is a better offensive player. he and noah wouldnt be stepping on eachother's toes. he would free up the paint more for derrick and he'd be a much better pick n pop option.

imagine a lineup of derrick, jr smith, deng, bargnani and noah.
flatten it out, run a 1-4 set. who is the opposition gonna help off of? noah maybe. derrick can take on 2, just not 3-4 defenders which is what he had to do all playoffs.

for someone who's supposedly a 20/10 player, help defenders dont exactly respect boozer. it was joel anthony who was checking boozer. who was bothering derrick's shots at the rim?
they wont be helping off of bargnani like they do with boozer.

I think Anthony leaving Booz has as much to do with Rose not dishing to bigs in traffic as well as you see say Nash or Williams do. I love me some Rose and all but lets be honest he tends to go for his own shot in traffic whereas other PG's pass off. I can recall a ton of times seeing a defender come off Booz and Rose take a tough shot in the paint rather than dish, granted he is awesome at it but that is his M.O. That wouldnt change with Barhs either.

I understand but if your options or Boozer who is not a quick or high jumper and noah who for all of his many talents does not have the greatest hands, who would you trust to finish at the rim?

[ManualRam]

we brought boozer in for his offense. bargs is a better offensive player. he and noah wouldnt be stepping on eachother's toes. he would free up the paint more for derrick and he'd be a much better pick n pop option.

imagine a lineup of derrick, jr smith, deng, bargnani and noah.
flatten it out, run a 1-4 set. who is the opposition gonna help off of? noah maybe. derrick can take on 2, just not 3-4 defenders which is what he had to do all playoffs.

for someone who's supposedly a 20/10 player, help defenders dont exactly respect boozer. it was joel anthony who was checking boozer. who was bothering derrick's shots at the rim?
they wont be helping off of bargnani like they do with boozer.

I think Anthony leaving Booz has as much to do with Rose not dishing to bigs in traffic as well as you see say Nash or Williams do. I love me some Rose and all but lets be honest he tends to go for his own shot in traffic whereas other PG's pass off. I can recall a ton of times seeing a defender come off Booz and Rose take a tough shot in the paint rather than dish, granted he is awesome at it but that is his M.O. That wouldnt change with Barhs either.

that i'll agree with. derrick needs to work on his dump off passes. his kickout passes are better than his dump off passes in traffic though. with bargs parked at the 3 pt line, there would definitely be less help in the paint.

still doesnt change the fact that boozer's one of the least respected "20/10" players in the game. with this team as currently constructed and factoring in derrick's tendencies, boozer is NOT a 20/10 player.