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Harrison Barnes ship has passed. They don't have any cap space to sign Deng, so it's a rental situation. They won't lose a young guy and get no other compensation.
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depends do they have him in his plans? what do they get for him, right now he is better player than Butler so i dont know what to do with him! and leave all this to after the Rose surgery, who knows how much time will he miss..
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IMO, if the Bulls do decide to trade Deng, one of the first priorities is going to be to get under the tax barrier.
You can forget about getting significant talent back. IMO, you are looking for salary relief and a lottery protected first.
You can forget about getting significant talent back. IMO, you are looking for salary relief and a lottery protected first.
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Forget Afflalo. Guy has gone into a new tier. He is averaging 22 points on .629 TS%!
I wanted him when he was just an elite three and D guy. Wow he would have been a miracle solution for us it seems, but why in the world would Orlando want Deng making almost twice as much, older, and who would likely depart them next year anyway.
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What about something like this?
Danny green. To golden state
Boris diaw
Luol deng. To San Antonio
Harrison Barnes. To Chicago
Nando de Colo
Would probably have to get SA to give their 1st GSW
Works through trade checker
I'd help SA just so Miami doesn't win another championship.
Danny green. To golden state
Boris diaw
Luol deng. To San Antonio
Harrison Barnes. To Chicago
Nando de Colo
Would probably have to get SA to give their 1st GSW
Works through trade checker
I'd help SA just so Miami doesn't win another championship.
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Any way we can trade Deng for Asik? Gets $ down, would then allow us to trade Noah.

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As I said in another thread, Rose is no longer your franchise. Doesn't mean we get rid of him. It means we need to find a new player to build around. That means everyone is on the table. Deng will not be part of the next title run here.
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Thibs is going to lose his mind if he's gone, but I think it's the right move. I'm all for this and hope we can get some nice pieces in return. Hopefully it's more than one guy we get if we do trade him.
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Rerisen wrote:Tench Ryu wrote:
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Forget Afflalo. Guy has gone into a new tier. He is averaging 22 points on .629 TS%!
I wanted him when he was just an elite three and D guy. Wow he would have been a miracle solution for us it seems, but why in the world would Orlando want Deng making almost twice as much, older, and who would likely depart them next year anyway.
Would love him on this team and some other nice pieces.
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Hokie wrote:If/when the Bulls trade Lu, Thibs is going to need to be sedated.
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wonderboy2 wrote:This thread is going to be flooded with unkowledgeable posters believeing this is good for the bulls basketball wise. But in reality if deng gets traded we can kiss contending for a while goodbye. We can barely function well without deng for 2 minutes off the floor. I guess if we do trade deng we better get a first round draft pick and hope that we hit gold and get the number one pick and get parker. But I doubt parker is leaving duke this year because his best friend Jahil okaford just commited to play for duke next season along with the top point guard in the class. I know washington,cleveland, and olando would proabaly do a trade.
You do understand we've already kissed contending goodbye, right?
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Thibs isn't stupid. He understands the blow this injury is to the team and how a perpetually injured Rose negatively affects the salary cap/luxury tax situation for the Bulls. Thibs is a professional and will do his job.
It's one thing complaining about losing Asik or Korver. This is entirely different.
Oops, posted in wrong thread.
It's one thing complaining about losing Asik or Korver. This is entirely different.
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Trade Rose, keep Deng, who most likely has a greater number of productive years ahead of him.
The chances that Rose will regain his once-extraordinary ability to penetrate seem slim. What you are left with is a point guard with mediocre ball handling and passing skills and an unremarkable outside shot. Showcase him when he recovers and trade him for what you can get.
The chances that Rose will regain his once-extraordinary ability to penetrate seem slim. What you are left with is a point guard with mediocre ball handling and passing skills and an unremarkable outside shot. Showcase him when he recovers and trade him for what you can get.
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sco wrote:What about Deng for Jimmer and filler?
If that filler is the King's 1st round pick, then yes. If not, then god no.
McBulls wrote:Trade Rose, keep Deng, who most likely has a greater number of productive years ahead of him.
The chances that Rose will regain his once-extraordinary ability to penetrate seem slim. What you are left with is a point guard with mediocre ball handling and passing skills and an unremarkable outside shot. Showcase him when he recovers and trade him for what you can get.
1) Rose is untradeable until he comes back and demonstrates health. Likely next season.
2) Deng's contract is up this year.
3) Deng has more current value.
Not hard to see who should be dealt.
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Hokie wrote:wonderboy2 wrote:This thread is going to be flooded with unkowledgeable posters believeing this is good for the bulls basketball wise. But in reality if deng gets traded we can kiss contending for a while goodbye. We can barely function well without deng for 2 minutes off the floor. I guess if we do trade deng we better get a first round draft pick and hope that we hit gold and get the number one pick and get parker. But I doubt parker is leaving duke this year because his best friend Jahil okaford just commited to play for duke next season along with the top point guard in the class. I know washington,cleveland, and olando would proabaly do a trade.
Our title hopes were kissed goodbye when Rose got hurt. Trading Deng isn't going to change that.
You realize he's a free agent who we're unlikely to re-sign, right?
In addition we know the Championship we will not get but you have to start dissecting what you need cause clearly this roster will have to be move for parts and picks
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We probably could have done a deng for afflalo deal before the season started and I'm almost sure we would have gotten it done
Now afflalo has played his value up to a point Orlando will probably try to get a 1st rd pick for him
Truth is this is what so many people complain about this front office is so damn reactionary. How could they not see even with a healthy d rose this roster did not have the depth outside shooting ball handling or athleticism to beat Miami in a 7 game series? Retooling should have already been in the works period. Especially with deng not taking a discount.
Personally I think thibs will be fine if deng replacement is his type of player. That was a major reason I felt big baby and afflalo for deng was so perfect. Big baby already had a past with thibs and afflalo got thibs type of player written all over him.
If we are proactive and we keep Nate and Marco while adding dunleavy (could have just signed Nate and Marco outright and paid the tax for it, I mean we paying the tax anyway ) then still added dunleavy and make the deng deal then right now as rose goes down we have no worries because we would still have a roster that can hold it down til he got back possibly around the all star break.
Then going into the playoffs
Rose,Nate, Kirk
Afflalo, Marco Kirk
Butler MDJ Marco
Boozer taj
Noah nazr
Has a ton more chance of upsetting the heat than whatever the hell we go have now.
No way should rose have had to come back to a roster he still would eventually have to carry in scoring. At this point it's vital to surround him with scoring and have it where he can coast for stretches of games then explode here and there. It's basically confirmed he injury prone now. Gotta adjust to that.
Now afflalo has played his value up to a point Orlando will probably try to get a 1st rd pick for him
Truth is this is what so many people complain about this front office is so damn reactionary. How could they not see even with a healthy d rose this roster did not have the depth outside shooting ball handling or athleticism to beat Miami in a 7 game series? Retooling should have already been in the works period. Especially with deng not taking a discount.
Personally I think thibs will be fine if deng replacement is his type of player. That was a major reason I felt big baby and afflalo for deng was so perfect. Big baby already had a past with thibs and afflalo got thibs type of player written all over him.
If we are proactive and we keep Nate and Marco while adding dunleavy (could have just signed Nate and Marco outright and paid the tax for it, I mean we paying the tax anyway ) then still added dunleavy and make the deng deal then right now as rose goes down we have no worries because we would still have a roster that can hold it down til he got back possibly around the all star break.
Then going into the playoffs
Rose,Nate, Kirk
Afflalo, Marco Kirk
Butler MDJ Marco
Boozer taj
Noah nazr
Has a ton more chance of upsetting the heat than whatever the hell we go have now.
No way should rose have had to come back to a roster he still would eventually have to carry in scoring. At this point it's vital to surround him with scoring and have it where he can coast for stretches of games then explode here and there. It's basically confirmed he injury prone now. Gotta adjust to that.
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Chi town wrote:What will he fetch us? He has good value for a team like CLE but then they make the playoffs with him and their pick isn't good.
Personally I'd like to get a young player and a future pick for him.
Not happening, unless it's a pretty mediocre young player, he's a expiring after all, and a mid 1st in this draft looks like a 10th - 11th in a regular draft.
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Quinarvy wrote:sco wrote:What about Deng for Jimmer and filler?
If that filler is the King's 1st round pick, then yes. If not, then god no.McBulls wrote:Trade Rose, keep Deng, who most likely has a greater number of productive years ahead of him.
The chances that Rose will regain his once-extraordinary ability to penetrate seem slim. What you are left with is a point guard with mediocre ball handling and passing skills and an unremarkable outside shot. Showcase him when he recovers and trade him for what you can get.
1) Rose is untradeable until he comes back and demonstrates health. Likely next season.
2) Deng's contract is up this year.
3) Deng has more current value.
Not hard to see who should be dealt.
It is hard to see why the Bulls would trade their best player away (I'm still waiting for Noah to wake up). Deng's salary demands and expiring contract will restrict the value of what is offered in return.
Anyway, I don't understand the logic of trading the best player on the team, who has played night in and night out through injury, with both the first and second teams for chips and refuse.
As far as I'm concerned Deng, Butler and Noah are the last players one should consider trading.