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Re: 2018 Bulls Free Agency 

Post#21 » by ChiTownHero1992 » Sat Jun 23, 2018 12:58 pm

Should we look at a guy like Patrick McCaw? He isn't great but gave some good minutes on the floor and could come pretty cheap at a young age.

Also really want to atleast think about taking a flier on Parker and Herzonja. Could throw money at other guys too such as Gordon, etc but very unlikely and not sure about fit there...
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Re: 2018 Bulls Free Agency 

Post#22 » by logical_art » Sat Jun 23, 2018 1:05 pm

Montrezl Harrell should come much cheaper than Portis and actually plays defense and is athletic. I like his fit with Lauri and WCJ.

Sign him. Trade Portis for something of value.
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Re: 2018 Bulls Free Agency 

Post#23 » by _txchilibowl_ » Sat Jun 23, 2018 1:06 pm

Grodoboldo wrote:
coldfish wrote:
pipfan wrote:I really want us to absorb bad deals for future picks-expiring preferred but I would take on 2 year deals for a high enough price.

We have Asik, Holiday, Lopez expiring next summer, plus decisions on Grant, Payne and Portis. We will have a lot of cap space. Then, we will still have max space in 2020 for a run at AD


Ding, ding, ding.

Who wants free agency money and has something of value to give up? I suspect the Lakers could be had.


Hell yeah, sign me up for Deng + Ingram for capspace.
But I'm not touching Lonzo with a ten feet pole, though.



I absolutely would take Lonzo for capspace. He's really talented and cost controlled. People are scared of by his Dad's antics but Lonzo himself is a good kid and plays winning basketball.

Lonzo > Dunn (and I like Dunn)
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Re: 2018 Bulls Free Agency 

Post#24 » by Red Larrivee » Sat Jun 23, 2018 1:13 pm

KC:

When NBA free agency begins at 11 p.m. Central on June 30, the Bulls’ initial focus will be on their own — namely re-signing restricted free agents Zach LaVine and David Nwaba.

The Bulls are expected to make a good-faith, proactive offer to LaVine, but if he seeks a maximum contract, he likely will need to get an offer sheet. The Bulls are prepared for at least one Western Conference team to make a run at LaVine, for whom they can match any offer.

As for spending some of their projected $24 million or more of salary-cap space, the Bulls will take a patient approach to see if any attractive pieces fit their rebuild timeline.

“If there’s value we think we can jump on, we’ll explore that,” executive vice president John Paxson said. “But we’re in the beginning stages of this (rebuild).”

Another avenue the Bulls could explore is adding future assets, perhaps in the form of first-round picks, by absorbing a contract into their cap space via a trade. The Bulls still have roughly $8.9 million from a trade exception created in the Nikola Mirotic deal if they choose to utilize exceptions.


The plan largely seems to be to re-sign our own and take on a contract if the chance arrives.

Philadelphia needs to move Bayless to create a max slot. So, we could offer them that in exchange for Miami's 2021 pick. I don't think the Lakers are moving Ingram or Ball unless it nets them Leonard.
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Re: 2018 Bulls Free Agency 

Post#25 » by robert76 » Sat Jun 23, 2018 1:15 pm

The Bulls are not a team to lure a big name free agent and they probably won't be in 2020 either. So IMO the AD plan will go to way of the LeBron plan, Carmelo plan and so on. Like others said, a good strategy for them would be to take advantage of teams needing cap space. Gather picks and hope you'll strike gold with one of them.
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Post#26 » by vvgotgame19 » Sat Jun 23, 2018 1:58 pm

pipfan wrote:Let's see, with realistic contracts this summer and no long term new deals for FA

Lavine-$15 miilion (front load his deal this summer)
Dunn-5.3
Lauri-5.3
Carter-4.5
Hutch-2
Nwaba-4.5 (I like him a lot, front load his deal too (3 years/$14 million)
Valentine-3.4 (I want to deal him this summer, but let's assume he stays)
Felicio-8.2 (wow)
Asik-$1 million after buyout is stretched
2019 pick-let's say 3
Portis cap hold-7.5 (I also want to trade him this summer, but assume he stays)

If the cap goes to $108 million, that leaves us with about $50 million to play with. Not enough for 2 top FA's, but close. We deal Felicio, another contract and our 2019 pick and now we have 2 max spaces.

Therefore, this summer we should NOT take on anything more than expiring deals for future picks, and role with all the talent we have. We could easily add Irving and Butler and role into 2019 with

Irving/Dunn
Lavine/Irving
Butler/Hutch
Lauri/Portis
Carter/Portis

That team could easily win the East. Or of course we hold out until 2020 and take on some terrible 2016 deals for more future picks


This is the exact scenario I’m hoping for even though it’s probably not likely. Idk why Kyrie would leave Boston unless he was dead set on playing with Jimmy. Jimmy on the other hand, I can definitely see him wanting out of Minny, and now that we have a roster that’s much more suited for him, I could see him wanting to come back like it was part of the plan all along 8-)
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Re: 2018 Bulls Free Agency 

Post#27 » by Grodoboldo » Sat Jun 23, 2018 3:32 pm

_txchilibowl_ wrote:
Grodoboldo wrote:
coldfish wrote:
Ding, ding, ding.

Who wants free agency money and has something of value to give up? I suspect the Lakers could be had.


Hell yeah, sign me up for Deng + Ingram for capspace.
But I'm not touching Lonzo with a ten feet pole, though.



I absolutely would take Lonzo for capspace. He's really talented and cost controlled. People are scared of by his Dad's antics but Lonzo himself is a good kid and plays winning basketball.

Lonzo > Dunn (and I like Dunn)


I agree that he's better than Dunn and even that he is a good kid.
But that whole circus that his dad creates is not worth it.
LeBron will turn the FO of any team he joins into a complete joke, but he's worth it.
Lonzo? Not so much.
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Re: 2018 Bulls Free Agency 

Post#28 » by Grodoboldo » Sat Jun 23, 2018 3:36 pm

Red Larrivee wrote:KC:

When NBA free agency begins at 11 p.m. Central on June 30, the Bulls’ initial focus will be on their own — namely re-signing restricted free agents Zach LaVine and David Nwaba.

The Bulls are expected to make a good-faith, proactive offer to LaVine, but if he seeks a maximum contract, he likely will need to get an offer sheet. The Bulls are prepared for at least one Western Conference team to make a run at LaVine, for whom they can match any offer.

As for spending some of their projected $24 million or more of salary-cap space, the Bulls will take a patient approach to see if any attractive pieces fit their rebuild timeline.

“If there’s value we think we can jump on, we’ll explore that,” executive vice president John Paxson said. “But we’re in the beginning stages of this (rebuild).”

Another avenue the Bulls could explore is adding future assets, perhaps in the form of first-round picks, by absorbing a contract into their cap space via a trade. The Bulls still have roughly $8.9 million from a trade exception created in the Nikola Mirotic deal if they choose to utilize exceptions.


The plan largely seems to be to re-sign our own and take on a contract if the chance arrives.

Philadelphia needs to move Bayless to create a max slot. So, we could offer them that in exchange for Miami's 2021 pick. I don't think the Lakers are moving Ingram or Ball unless it nets them Leonard.


I'd easily do the deal for Miami's pick. Maybe even throw in a little something if they're interested, like Holiday for example.
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Re: 2018 Bulls Free Agency 

Post#29 » by NewEra21 » Sat Jun 23, 2018 3:42 pm

Grodoboldo wrote:
Red Larrivee wrote:KC:

When NBA free agency begins at 11 p.m. Central on June 30, the Bulls’ initial focus will be on their own — namely re-signing restricted free agents Zach LaVine and David Nwaba.

The Bulls are expected to make a good-faith, proactive offer to LaVine, but if he seeks a maximum contract, he likely will need to get an offer sheet. The Bulls are prepared for at least one Western Conference team to make a run at LaVine, for whom they can match any offer.

As for spending some of their projected $24 million or more of salary-cap space, the Bulls will take a patient approach to see if any attractive pieces fit their rebuild timeline.

“If there’s value we think we can jump on, we’ll explore that,” executive vice president John Paxson said. “But we’re in the beginning stages of this (rebuild).”

Another avenue the Bulls could explore is adding future assets, perhaps in the form of first-round picks, by absorbing a contract into their cap space via a trade. The Bulls still have roughly $8.9 million from a trade exception created in the Nikola Mirotic deal if they choose to utilize exceptions.


The plan largely seems to be to re-sign our own and take on a contract if the chance arrives.

Philadelphia needs to move Bayless to create a max slot. So, we could offer them that in exchange for Miami's 2021 pick. I don't think the Lakers are moving Ingram or Ball unless it nets them Leonard.


I'd easily do the deal for Miami's pick. Maybe even throw in a little something if they're interested, like Holiday for example.

:D Don't know what Phoenix was thinking for trading that away. Miami has a nice mix of role players, but they are no where close to contending. Classic treadmill team, with too much salary tied up where they can make any moves. That pick could be gold. Trading for that pick now is an Ainge like move.
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Re: 2018 Bulls Free Agency 

Post#30 » by Chitownbulls » Sat Jun 23, 2018 4:08 pm

I wonder if we offer a couple large 1 year deal contracts

Tyreke Evan's 14mil 1 year
Will Barton 10mil 1 year
DENG HE SUCKS!!!!
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Re: 2018 Bulls Free Agency 

Post#31 » by Axolotl » Sat Jun 23, 2018 4:19 pm

Chitownbulls wrote:I wonder if we offer a couple large 1 year deal contracts

Tyreke Evan's 14mil 1 year
Will Barton 10mil 1 year


I don't see why we'd do that. We don't need one year contracts to achieve what needs to be achieved in 18-19 -season, which is to see what we actually have now. One year deals would likely be counterproductive.
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Re: Bulls Free Agency - Merged 

Post#32 » by blicka » Sat Jun 23, 2018 4:19 pm

Prefer the bulls use their cap space to get a young player/pick(s) for a bad contract than splurge in fa

Only fa I would be interested in signing is henzonja from orlando
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Re: Bulls Free Agency - Merged 

Post#33 » by Herrdoktor33 » Sat Jun 23, 2018 4:45 pm

I want Rondo here. He'd help develop the young guys.
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Re: Bulls Free Agency - Merged 

Post#34 » by xpmar9x » Sat Jun 23, 2018 4:46 pm

Mario Hezonja, Fred VanVleet, Caldwell-Pope, Will Barton, Rodney Hood, Kyle Anderson, & Jerami Grant are guys I'd like (obviously if the price is right).

Still hoping we can take on bad contracts (Ryan Anderson, Deng, Gallinari, Faried, Bayless, Delladova/Teletovic, etc) for future picks though.
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Re: Bulls Free Agency - Merged 

Post#35 » by drosEshe » Sat Jun 23, 2018 4:55 pm

Trade for Carmelo Anthony plus future picks then negotiate a buyout.


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Re: Bulls Free Agency - Merged 

Post#36 » by Houston_Bulls » Sat Jun 23, 2018 6:20 pm

Will Barton is young but proven in the NBA. I would much, much, rather have Barton than Lavine.
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Re: Bulls Free Agency - Merged 

Post#37 » by Chi town » Sat Jun 23, 2018 6:47 pm

That Lavine offer better not be for more than 15M per.

Nwaba better not get more than 5M per.
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Re: Bulls Free Agency - Merged 

Post#38 » by Axolotl » Sat Jun 23, 2018 7:01 pm

I'm still interested in Hezonja on the cheap. I just have this feeling he is actually better than what we have seen so far.
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Re: 2018 Bulls Free Agency 

Post#39 » by ChettheJet » Sat Jun 23, 2018 7:10 pm

robert76 wrote:The Bulls are not a team to lure a big name free agent and they probably won't be in 2020 either. So IMO the AD plan will go to way of the LeBron plan, Carmelo plan and so on. Like others said, a good strategy for them would be to take advantage of teams needing cap space. Gather picks and hope you'll strike gold with one of them.



That seems to be what most people forget, it doesn't matter who the Bulls want to sign it's who wants to sign here. Their best hope in signing some big name is to be on a short list of teams that can offer a max contract, which means not taking on bad contracts
like Deng, Parsons, Bayless or guys like them a few years down the road, especially if they aren't contributing to the team. They're in a good spot for next summer and the one following. It's foolish to suggest they try to make more out of this summer than they can when the pickings are pretty slim for the money they have now.

Play this year, see just how good Lauri and Dunn are with a full season, resign LaVine and see what he does when healthy. See how Carter and Hutchison are at the end of the year. See if Portis can improve on the gains he made last year, the same for Valentine. Does Holiday step up his game being in the lineup all year and playing for his next contract? All of which adds up to, they have a lot of questions to answer already don't answer them by turning the roster upside down to get picks and expiring contracts and then have even more questions to answer next summer.
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Re: 2018 Bulls Free Agency 

Post#40 » by Scalaboner » Sat Jun 23, 2018 7:16 pm

robert76 wrote:The Bulls are not a team to lure a big name free agent and they probably won't be in 2020 either. So IMO the AD plan will go to way of the LeBron plan, Carmelo plan and so on. Like others said, a good strategy for them would be to take advantage of teams needing cap space. Gather picks and hope you'll strike gold with one of them.


I agree that the Bulls may not get a big name free agent just like always, but at least with AD he is from here. So instead of a 20% chance, we probably have a 35% chance.

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