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Re: NBA Trade Thread 

Post#21 » by Chi town » Sat Oct 26, 2019 10:37 pm

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Chi town wrote:Should trade for Mikal Bridges. He’d be great coming off the bench.

Hutch and a 2nd.


Phoenix will not do that deal.

Pax


They may not do that specific deal, but Bridges is clearly the odd man out. They just invested $30m into Oubre and the 11th pick into Cam Johnson. The also obviously have Booker taking the bulk of the minutes at the 2 and Tyler Johnson and Ty Jerome will get some PT there as well. Bridges wasn't particularly impressive last year and doesn't have much of an opportunity to improve this season. I think he's as expendable as they come.


He’d be great Otto insurance.

If we play gafford and he shows out it could be a good trade for both teams.
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Post#22 » by dougthonus » Sat Oct 26, 2019 11:13 pm

HomoSapien wrote:They may not do that specific deal, but Bridges is clearly the odd man out. They just invested $30m into Oubre and the 11th pick into Cam Johnson. The also obviously have Booker taking the bulk of the minutes at the 2 and Tyler Johnson and Ty Jerome will get some PT there as well. Bridges wasn't particularly impressive last year and doesn't have much of an opportunity to improve this season. I think he's as expendable as they come.


Bridges is an older rookie and didn't have a particularly good first year on a team where he played a lot of minutes and had a defined role. I don't think the Bulls need to bring in another young player. They're better off trying to get someone established if they're going to make a trade IMO.
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Post#23 » by Proven_Winner » Sat Oct 26, 2019 11:21 pm

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HomoSapien wrote:They may not do that specific deal, but Bridges is clearly the odd man out. They just invested $30m into Oubre and the 11th pick into Cam Johnson. The also obviously have Booker taking the bulk of the minutes at the 2 and Tyler Johnson and Ty Jerome will get some PT there as well. Bridges wasn't particularly impressive last year and doesn't have much of an opportunity to improve this season. I think he's as expendable as they come.


Bridges is an older rookie and didn't have a particularly good first year on a team where he played a lot of minutes and had a defined role. I don't think the Bulls need to bring in another young player. They're better off trying to get someone established if they're going to make a trade IMO.


Jae Crowder or Ariza would be a good pickup for the bench.
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Post#24 » by Proven_Winner » Sat Oct 26, 2019 11:25 pm

Rose2Boozer wrote:I wonder if the Grizzlies would be interested in trading Josh Jackson for Kris Dunn.


Last year maybe but hell no to this focused Dunn. JJ sucks and his off court personality isn’t the greatest either IIRC.
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Post#25 » by ZOMG » Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:36 pm

GimmeDat wrote:Otto > DeRozan


Not even close.
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Post#26 » by Michael Jackson » Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:31 pm

ZOMG wrote:
GimmeDat wrote:Otto > DeRozan


Not even close.



Agreed. DeRozan has been a part of winning basketball.
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Post#27 » by logical_art » Mon Oct 28, 2019 8:37 pm

What about trying to get Mikal Bridges? He's been a little underwhelming and the Suns just paid Oubre a lot, so maybe he'd come at a reasonable price.
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Post#28 » by sco » Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:46 pm

Given his latest hip/load management situation, I'm thinking that if the Bulls are clearly on the outside of the playoff rankings looking-in at the deadline that an Otto trade for a late-lotto pick and an expiring could make sense. Given that he has a player option after the season, if he's playing at historical levels, he's likely to exercise, if he's below historical levels, he'll likely stay.
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Post#29 » by weneeda2guard » Tue Oct 29, 2019 9:02 pm

crazy idea but one I would to throw out there

This offense needs fixing and we still sourly lack a pg that can get it going.

I know I'll get killed for it but I'm warming up to the idea of trading for.......chris paul

I know he cost a ton, but he is the kind of pg that can save boylen from himself and get our offense on the right track. He is also as we know it, very attainable. Porter jr. Dunn kind of deal could get it done and okc def does it to get from under cp3 deal.

We do it because at this point the lottery has not been kind to us and continuing to add 7th picks is not going to push the needle much for us. Cp3 also has some game left and is a quality shooter from the outside a couple of years of him to run the offense and also school white before he takes over and then we buy him out.

It screws free agency but who cares nobody is coming here if we once again produce a losing season. What would be more beneficial for our future is lavine, lauri white , Carter jr, young, hutch, etc to develop properly

Cp3 also provides veteran leadership on the floor that 1. These youngins will adhere to, and 2. They seriously lack.

Finally we are stuck with boylen and it's best to get someone here who can take over the offense and save boylen from himself

Go get cp3
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Post#30 » by WYO » Tue Oct 29, 2019 9:38 pm

weneeda2guard wrote:crazy idea but one I would to throw out there

This offense needs fixing and we still sourly lack a pg that can get it going.

I know I'll get killed for it but I'm warming up to the idea of trading for.......chris paul

I know he cost a ton, but he is the kind of pg that can save boylen from himself and get our offense on the right track. He is also as we know it, very attainable. Porter jr. Dunn kind of deal could get it done and okc def does it to get from under cp3 deal.

We do it because at this point the lottery has not been kind to us and continuing to add 7th picks is not going to push the needle much for us. Cp3 also has some game left and is a quality shooter from the outside a couple of years of him to run the offense and also school white before he takes over and then we buy him out.

It screws free agency but who cares nobody is coming here if we once again produce a losing season. What would be more beneficial for our future is lavine, lauri white , Carter jr, young, hutch, etc to develop properly

Cp3 also provides veteran leadership on the floor that 1. These youngins will adhere to, and 2. They seriously lack.

Finally we are stuck with boylen and it's best to get someone here who can take over the offense and save boylen from himself

Go get cp3

Go back to the Thunder board because you're obviously one of their fans trying to get anything of value for CP3. Trading for CP3 should include the Bulls getting multiple firsts. That is how bad his contract is.
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Post#31 » by weneeda2guard » Tue Oct 29, 2019 10:43 pm

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weneeda2guard wrote:crazy idea but one I would to throw out there

This offense needs fixing and we still sourly lack a pg that can get it going.

I know I'll get killed for it but I'm warming up to the idea of trading for.......chris paul

I know he cost a ton, but he is the kind of pg that can save boylen from himself and get our offense on the right track. He is also as we know it, very attainable. Porter jr. Dunn kind of deal could get it done and okc def does it to get from under cp3 deal.

We do it because at this point the lottery has not been kind to us and continuing to add 7th picks is not going to push the needle much for us. Cp3 also has some game left and is a quality shooter from the outside a couple of years of him to run the offense and also school white before he takes over and then we buy him out.

It screws free agency but who cares nobody is coming here if we once again produce a losing season. What would be more beneficial for our future is lavine, lauri white , Carter jr, young, hutch, etc to develop properly

Cp3 also provides veteran leadership on the floor that 1. These youngins will adhere to, and 2. They seriously lack.

Finally we are stuck with boylen and it's best to get someone here who can take over the offense and save boylen from himself

Go get cp3

Go back to the Thunder board because you're obviously one of their fans trying to get anything of value for CP3. Trading for CP3 should include the Bulls getting multiple firsts. That is how bad his contract is.

Check my post history, I'm a bulls fan, I don't have 1 post in the thunder forum

We are in dire need of a floor general, cp3 is still one and we have the young horses he needs to be effective. Lavine can't keep handling the ball and clearly Dunn and sato can't fulfill that role. Our offense has went to crap vs some of the worst defenses in the league and the 1 game we played a quality playoff team we got ran off the floor.

Cp3 does cost a lot but I think we are close to that kind of money anyway for otto who I'm not sold on anymore to resign and Dunn is def a goner. Valentine time is about done here too. So you consolidating 3 deals for 1 and they benefit by getting from under that money. We benefit by getting a pg that can get lavine and lauri going consistently and also help develop coby white to take the wheel in a couple years. I think that is more important than trying to save cap space for free agents who are not coming to a lottery team. But if we get some winning going then we still have the possibility for trades.

I'm looking around and trying to see another solution and I dont see the guard who is available who comes in and helps get this offense right.
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Post#32 » by leo921 » Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:41 pm

I have thought about CP3 as well because he would make everyone on the team better.He would put Lauri in a great position to score, CP made David West an all star in the pick n pop/roll, Lauri would be even better in that action. Paul helped Tyson Chandler a lot, now imagine CP3 with an improving and more talented Carter. Lavine would have the ball in his hands less and can improve his efficiency with less turnovers.

It's not a perfect idea because Paul is older but still effective and his contract is 3 years of big money but he would move us forward and improve everyone on the team.

I would do a CP3 for Porter/Felico trade

If you want a completly different trade then CP3/Gallo for Lavine/Porter/Felico, come out with

CP3
White
Gallo
Lauri
Carter

Which would be a really good team in the East
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Post#33 » by Ccwatercraft » Wed Oct 30, 2019 12:46 am

WYO wrote:
weneeda2guard wrote:crazy idea but one I would to throw out there

This offense needs fixing and we still sourly lack a pg that can get it going.

I know I'll get killed for it but I'm warming up to the idea of trading for.......chris paul

I know he cost a ton, but he is the kind of pg that can save boylen from himself and get our offense on the right track. He is also as we know it, very attainable. Porter jr. Dunn kind of deal could get it done and okc def does it to get from under cp3 deal.

We do it because at this point the lottery has not been kind to us and continuing to add 7th picks is not going to push the needle much for us. Cp3 also has some game left and is a quality shooter from the outside a couple of years of him to run the offense and also school white before he takes over and then we buy him out.

It screws free agency but who cares nobody is coming here if we once again produce a losing season. What would be more beneficial for our future is lavine, lauri white , Carter jr, young, hutch, etc to develop properly

Cp3 also provides veteran leadership on the floor that 1. These youngins will adhere to, and 2. They seriously lack.

Finally we are stuck with boylen and it's best to get someone here who can take over the offense and save boylen from himself

Go get cp3

Go back to the Thunder board because you're obviously one of their fans trying to get anything of value for CP3. Trading for CP3 should include the Bulls getting multiple firsts. That is how bad his contract is.


it's a terrible contract yes.

he would make us much better, yes.

but that I agree would require us recieving compensation not giving it
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Post#34 » by weneeda2guard » Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:12 am

Ccwatercraft wrote:
WYO wrote:
weneeda2guard wrote:crazy idea but one I would to throw out there

This offense needs fixing and we still sourly lack a pg that can get it going.

I know I'll get killed for it but I'm warming up to the idea of trading for.......chris paul

I know he cost a ton, but he is the kind of pg that can save boylen from himself and get our offense on the right track. He is also as we know it, very attainable. Porter jr. Dunn kind of deal could get it done and okc def does it to get from under cp3 deal.

We do it because at this point the lottery has not been kind to us and continuing to add 7th picks is not going to push the needle much for us. Cp3 also has some game left and is a quality shooter from the outside a couple of years of him to run the offense and also school white before he takes over and then we buy him out.

It screws free agency but who cares nobody is coming here if we once again produce a losing season. What would be more beneficial for our future is lavine, lauri white , Carter jr, young, hutch, etc to develop properly

Cp3 also provides veteran leadership on the floor that 1. These youngins will adhere to, and 2. They seriously lack.

Finally we are stuck with boylen and it's best to get someone here who can take over the offense and save boylen from himself

Go get cp3

Go back to the Thunder board because you're obviously one of their fans trying to get anything of value for CP3. Trading for CP3 should include the Bulls getting multiple firsts. That is how bad his contract is.


it's a terrible contract yes.

he would make us much better, yes.

but that I agree would require us recieving compensation not giving it

What compensation are we giving? Otto porter jr at this point with needing load management tells me it's not a good idea to keep him long term, especially since handing him a deal then lauri one the following year locks us into a roster that has no shot at being a title contender. Dunn has no future here. Neither does valentine, neither does felicio. It's a win win imo

OKC does it to get from under cp3 money, we do it to hopefully get a pg that can get lavine and lauri looking like something and get our offense going. You ride him a couple of years buy him out the last year then let white take the wheel. We not giving up any picks or nothing.
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Post#35 » by Michael Jackson » Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:16 am

leo921 wrote:I have thought about CP3 as well because he would make everyone on the team better.He would put Lauri in a great position to score, CP made David West an all star in the pick n pop/roll, Lauri would be even better in that action. Paul helped Tyson Chandler a lot, now imagine CP3 with an improving and more talented Carter. Lavine would have the ball in his hands less and can improve his efficiency with less turnovers.

It's not a perfect idea because Paul is older but still effective and his contract is 3 years of big money but he would move us forward and improve everyone on the team.

I would do a CP3 for Porter/Felico trade

If you want a completly different trade then CP3/Gallo for Lavine/Porter/Felico, come out with

CP3
White
Gallo
Lauri
Carter

Which would be a really good team in the East



While not bad and may be better than locking Otto up if he is hurt, that basically ends your rebuild. You are done going forward. No noticeable draft pick and nothing to trade and a high dollar guy who will give you 60 games diminishing skills year after year. I like gallo though. OKC wants to shed his contract they might do it.

All that being said Zach is a really tradable contract and not a bad player in the right system. He would be amazing in a Lou Williams role. CP3 trade eliminates any forward mobility. Rather stand pat. A 6th seed isn’t worth it for the next 3 years.
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Post#36 » by Michael Jackson » Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:18 am

weneeda2guard wrote:
Ccwatercraft wrote:
WYO wrote:Go back to the Thunder board because you're obviously one of their fans trying to get anything of value for CP3. Trading for CP3 should include the Bulls getting multiple firsts. That is how bad his contract is.


it's a terrible contract yes.

he would make us much better, yes.

but that I agree would require us recieving compensation not giving it

What compensation are we giving? Otto porter jr at this point with needing load management tells me it's not a good idea to keep him long term, especially since handing him a deal then lauri one the following year locks us into a roster that has no shot at being a title contender. Dunn has no future here. Neither does valentine, neither does felicio. It's a win win imo

OKC does it to get from under cp3 money, we do it to hopefully get a pg that can get lavine and lauri looking like something and get our offense going. You ride him a couple of years buy him out the last year then let white take the wheel. We not giving up any picks or nothing.


I think the point is taking CP3 from OKC is doing them a favor. With the bevy if picks they have they would need to add as Krause would say a little sweetener. Plus that trade would leave us with no small forward. I mean literally since Hutch is G League and Valentine is well I don’t know where he is.
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Post#37 » by Axolotl » Wed Oct 30, 2019 5:57 am

weneeda2guard wrote:This offense needs fixing and we still sourly lack a pg that can get it going.


Does it though? The Bulls are 4th in the league in open and wide open three point shots, they just miss those shots in a most puzzling fashion - they are 27th in the league in the percentage of open and wide open three pointers made.

The Bulls' offence is not pretty, but it creates open shots. No pg is going to make the shooters shoot better on those.
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Post#38 » by MrSparkle » Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:11 am

Paul’s around-the-rim numbers have already declined; they’ll tank soon. His salary is albatross.

Can we please for the love of god play and develop Coby at PG? If that’s not the future plan, then don’t waste another minute, dump Zach and draft or sign a PG in 2020.
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Post#39 » by drosereturn » Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:56 am

leo921 wrote:I have thought about CP3 as well because he would make everyone on the team better.He would put Lauri in a great position to score, CP made David West an all star in the pick n pop/roll, Lauri would be even better in that action. Paul helped Tyson Chandler a lot, now imagine CP3 with an improving and more talented Carter. Lavine would have the ball in his hands less and can improve his efficiency with less turnovers.

It's not a perfect idea because Paul is older but still effective and his contract is 3 years of big money but he would move us forward and improve everyone on the team.

I would do a CP3 for Porter/Felico trade

If you want a completly different trade then CP3/Gallo for Lavine/Porter/Felico, come out with

CP3
White
Gallo
Lauri
Carter

Which would be a really good team in the East


CP3 would make White, Lauri, Carter great as much as I hate him personally.
I like the CP3/Gallo trade but would need a frp from them since Lavine is a positive contract.
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Post#40 » by ZOMG » Wed Oct 30, 2019 7:26 am

Axolotl wrote:
weneeda2guard wrote:This offense needs fixing and we still sourly lack a pg that can get it going.


Does it though? The Bulls are 4th in the league in open and wide open three point shots, they just miss those shots in a most puzzling fashion - they are 27th in the league in the percentage of open and wide open three pointers made.

The Bulls' offence is not pretty, but it creates open shots. No pg is going to make the shooters shoot better on those.


Markkanen’s shooting slump has officially moved into nightmare territory. After all — while Lauri has never strictly been an elite outside shooter, history says that a 37% 3pt accuracy should be par for the course. At his volumes, that alone would make a huge difference to this season.

But Lauri is something of a special case. Over the last two seasons, I’ve written at length about his shot inevitably ”drifting out of alignment” at some point every season. It’s a dead giveaway that he’s either swishing or missing VERY badly, looking like Dunn out there. Something is off in his mechanics again, and he probably needs outside help to figure it out. This is where we DO miss Fred.

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