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Who do you want as our starting PF next season?

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Who do you want as our starting PF next season?

Markkanen
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Young
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Theis
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Williams
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Other
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Re: Who do you want as our starting PF next season? 

Post#21 » by MrSparkle » Fri Jul 23, 2021 2:08 pm

drosestruts wrote:Can we get that Al-Farouq Aminu that dropped 17, 10 and 6 days before getting traded to the Bulls? Bounce back season - you heard it here first!


That’s what I’m thinking. Not expecting a double digit stat out of him, but if he could play 15 mpg of good defense and competent offense, he’d be a perfect end-of-bench vet. Huge drop off last 2 seasons so I don’t expect it; could be Asik. But he’s only 30 and he had 2 years to heal- maybe this is a good spot for him.

I really don’t think we can afford to keep Thad at 15m, if we want to add a starter. That’s a big chunk of change for a minute-restricted reserve big.
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Post#22 » by Andi Obst » Fri Jul 23, 2021 2:13 pm

I think Aminu will be waived and stretched in a couple of days. He looked so done in the couple of minutes he played.
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Re: Who do you want as our starting PF next season? 

Post#23 » by ChettheJet » Fri Jul 23, 2021 2:45 pm

Right now I'm at *other, aiming higher.

I'm ready to close the books on Lauri, see who wants to sign him and if they will offer anything that helps in a S&T
Not willing to buyout Thad but ready to see what some contender would offer for his expiring contract. If somehow adding Aminu to a deal makes sense all the better.

100% want to resign Theis but as the backup PF and C who could spot start for rest.injury probably gets starter minutes in the long run. He talks to his teammates a lot when he's on the floor and that would add veteran stability to the bench replacing Thad's contribution in that area. Depending on how Patrick progresses at the SF where I think he'll end up long term, I think a more stretch and running PF would suit the starting lineup.

Who they get I don't know. Not many FAs that fill the bill are out there. I think the time for a move is after the draft and when free agency opens up. Some lottery team will draft their next great hope and may well have a PF with a year or two remaining on a rookie deal or some contract that they don't want around. Or some team may need that little bit of cap room to sign a FA they're in love with so they will be willing to trade a guy that fits for the Bulls to make room.


drosestruts wrote:Can we get that Al-Farouq Aminu that dropped 17, 10 and 6 days before getting traded to the Bulls? Bounce back season - you heard it here first!


Or they played and featured him for three games to raise his trade value to some unsuspecting team.
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Post#24 » by cool007 » Fri Jul 23, 2021 3:16 pm

My dream/realistic offseason would be getting Bullock as our starting SF, Lonzo at PG and re-sign Theis at PF. Sato, Lauri, Felicio out.

Lonzo/Coby
Lavine/TBJ
Bullock/PWill
Theis/PWill
Vuc/Thad

That lineup is not winning the title but we should be able to possibly get to the top 5 seed and get to the 2nd round - then go from there.
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Re: Who do you want as our starting PF next season? 

Post#25 » by sco » Fri Jul 23, 2021 3:57 pm

cool007 wrote:My dream/realistic offseason would be getting Bullock as our starting SF, Lonzo at PG and re-sign Theis at PF. Sato, Lauri, Felicio out.

Lonzo/Coby
Lavine/TBJ
Bullock/PWill
Theis/PWill
Vuc/Thad

That lineup is not winning the title but we should be able to possibly get to the top 5 seed and get to the 2nd round - then go from there.

Get out of my head Cool!

That would be awesome...I think the only way that happens is if we can S&T for Ball (which seems unlikely as NO wants to shed salary) and we operate over the cap to resign Theis and use the MLE on Bulluck (which I also think is unlikely as I think he earned more than that based on his play last season, but I could be wrong).
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Post#26 » by Chi town » Fri Jul 23, 2021 6:28 pm

I’m liking the idea of a cheap vet small ball PF like Morris or Jeff Green. I think Theis will be way overpaid by the Hornets.
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Post#27 » by HearshotKDS » Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:08 pm

Need a rim protecting PF to pair with Vuc. Almost all of those available guys are going to be offensively limited (otherwise they would be all stars) - Theis is less limited than many and offers OK 3 pt shooting for the position. Of all the realistic scenarios I go with a Williams/Theis 3/4 combo as imo the best. I do concede there may be better options out there with moving Williams to PF and bringing in available SFs but i dont have the energy or drive to look into them.
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Post#28 » by drosestruts » Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:20 pm

It seems a lot of the appeal of Lonzo Ball is his age, and the belief that he will continue to get better and fit the timeline of our core well. (there's other appeal too, but that's certainly part of the Ball appeal).

A forward that fits this criteria is Kelly Oubre Jr. I think Williams & Oubre could provide a good, modern NBA forwards pairing. We already have dollar store Kawhi, let's et dollar store PG and hope both can develop.

Oubre is 25, an unrestricted free agent so we don't have to worry about a team matching the offer like with Ball. He's not getting discussed much as a free agent target but could be a nice fit here in Chicago.
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Post#29 » by sco » Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:08 pm

drosestruts wrote:It seems a lot of the appeal of Lonzo Ball is his age, and the belief that he will continue to get better and fit the timeline of our core well. (there's other appeal too, but that's certainly part of the Ball appeal).

A forward that fits this criteria is Kelly Oubre Jr. I think Williams & Oubre could provide a good, modern NBA forwards pairing. We already have dollar store Kawhi, let's et dollar store PG and hope both can develop.

Oubre is 25, an unrestricted free agent so we don't have to worry about a team matching the offer like with Ball. He's not getting discussed much as a free agent target but could be a nice fit here in Chicago.

I used to want him, but he's another guy that's "just ok" and really hasn't gotten better (was actually a little worse with GS than PHX). I'd rather go after a guy like Bullock or even just start TBJ.
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Post#30 » by drosestruts » Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:13 pm

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drosestruts wrote:It seems a lot of the appeal of Lonzo Ball is his age, and the belief that he will continue to get better and fit the timeline of our core well. (there's other appeal too, but that's certainly part of the Ball appeal).

A forward that fits this criteria is Kelly Oubre Jr. I think Williams & Oubre could provide a good, modern NBA forwards pairing. We already have dollar store Kawhi, let's et dollar store PG and hope both can develop.

Oubre is 25, an unrestricted free agent so we don't have to worry about a team matching the offer like with Ball. He's not getting discussed much as a free agent target but could be a nice fit here in Chicago.

I used to want him, but he's another guy that's "just ok" and really hasn't gotten better (was actually a little worse with GS than PHX). I'd rather go after a guy like Bullock or even just start TBJ.


Yeah Bullock is a solid 3&D guy that does his job/role very well. Wish he had a little more size to him.

Oubre is wildly inconsistent. There are times he looks like an all-star, time you don't even notice he's on the court, and times he's admittingly bad.

Definitely would be more of a gamble type move. Not sure if it would make us better, definitely makes us more handsome.
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Post#31 » by MrSparkle » Fri Jul 23, 2021 8:38 pm

Little Nathan wrote:I think Aminu will be waived and stretched in a couple of days. He looked so done in the couple of minutes he played.


If that's his state of conditioning, that's fair. How would it work? $2.5m cap hit for 4y? That would open up $7m+.

I was wondering about the old "make PFs look young again" tactic of moving him to backup C. He is 6'9 and probably 235 lb. at this point. That wasn't tried because we had five centers in April, but if the Theis/Lauri/Thad (and of course Felicio) herd is thinned, it could be a viable spot minute role till the deadline.

But also, he did have a torn meniscus followed by a minor arthroscopic procedure... so he tried to come back in ORL maybe prematurely, and then he had a minor setback, which means he just didn't have a whole lot of time to work back into conditioning. But now he had a long rest, and seemed healthy to close the season. I just don't think it's that crazy for a defensive role-player to come back after injury down-time. Happens all the time: Matthews, Livingston, Batum... of course he could be toast.
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Post#32 » by ChettheJet » Sat Jul 24, 2021 2:16 pm

Chi town wrote:I’m liking the idea of a cheap vet small ball PF like Morris or Jeff Green. I think Theis will be way overpaid by the Hornets.



My thought would be CHA is looking for something bigger than Theis, who is a solid pickup but maybe not as big a splash as CHA is looking to make.

The name that just came up as opting out, JayMicael Green from DEN. I don't think at his age you're looking at him as big minute a starter but he can shoot the ball and maybe he's a Thad Young replacement.

If plan A is to look to S&T Markkanen, trade Young and maybe move Aminu what's plan 1A? There aren't very many FAs on the market to spend a big contract on, so why not delay the big spend while concentrating on getting a PG?

DEN has just had Barton and Green opt out so they have even more cap space than they had a week ago to make use of which means increased competition for FAs.

The idea that hasn't come up at the PF is not one big name $24M starter but filling the position three smaller name $8M guys. Resign Theis, sign JayMichael Green and even use Williams. Troy Brown jr is there to back up Williams. This could be in combination with signing a quality SF in the $8M range to make up for not signing that big name PF. Theis backs up the 5 and 4. With Theis at the 5 any combination of the other 4 could be on the floor at the same time and any SF could pair with any PF when Vuc is in the game.
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Post#33 » by heir_jordan22 » Sat Jul 24, 2021 2:40 pm

John Collins would be ideal. But probably impossible to acquire even through a trade unless the Hawks just don't want to pay him enough to keep him around.

Pipe dream trade: Lauri and White/Sato for Collins. The hawks need a backup PG. We should've just drafted Collins instead of Lauri smh
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Re: Who do you want as our starting PF next season? 

Post#34 » by Chi town » Sat Jul 24, 2021 3:19 pm

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Chi town wrote:I’m liking the idea of a cheap vet small ball PF like Morris or Jeff Green. I think Theis will be way overpaid by the Hornets.



My thought would be CHA is looking for something bigger than Theis, who is a solid pickup but maybe not as big a splash as CHA is looking to make.

The name that just came up as opting out, JayMicael Green from DEN. I don't think at his age you're looking at him as big minute a starter but he can shoot the ball and maybe he's a Thad Young replacement.

If plan A is to look to S&T Markkanen, trade Young and maybe move Aminu what's plan 1A? There aren't very many FAs on the market to spend a big contract on, so why not delay the big spend while concentrating on getting a PG?

DEN has just had Barton and Green opt out so they have even more cap space than they had a week ago to make use of which means increased competition for FAs.

The idea that hasn't come up at the PF is not one big name $24M starter but filling the position three smaller name $8M guys. Resign Theis, sign JayMichael Green and even use Williams. Troy Brown jr is there to back up Williams. This could be in combination with signing a quality SF in the $8M range to make up for not signing that big name PF. Theis backs up the 5 and 4. With Theis at the 5 any combination of the other 4 could be on the floor at the same time and any SF could pair with any PF when Vuc is in the game.


I’m thinking even cheaper. Like the Garret Temple of PFs.

Don’t think you can trust TBJ as your backup SF unless you have a Temple or Val returning. He’s injured a lot and hasn’t proven enough. We all think PW will be a lot better… but if he’s not we have a big hole at wing. Theis is a good fit but he’s more big than small ball 4. Ideally we get more of a big wing small ball 4.

I think Derozan can play small ball PF at his age but IMO he will take too many shots away from more efficient players. We need a really good defender that spaces the floor. Jae Crowder would be perfect.
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Post#35 » by sco » Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:12 pm

Chi town wrote:
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Chi town wrote:I’m liking the idea of a cheap vet small ball PF like Morris or Jeff Green. I think Theis will be way overpaid by the Hornets.



My thought would be CHA is looking for something bigger than Theis, who is a solid pickup but maybe not as big a splash as CHA is looking to make.

The name that just came up as opting out, JayMicael Green from DEN. I don't think at his age you're looking at him as big minute a starter but he can shoot the ball and maybe he's a Thad Young replacement.

If plan A is to look to S&T Markkanen, trade Young and maybe move Aminu what's plan 1A? There aren't very many FAs on the market to spend a big contract on, so why not delay the big spend while concentrating on getting a PG?

DEN has just had Barton and Green opt out so they have even more cap space than they had a week ago to make use of which means increased competition for FAs.

The idea that hasn't come up at the PF is not one big name $24M starter but filling the position three smaller name $8M guys. Resign Theis, sign JayMichael Green and even use Williams. Troy Brown jr is there to back up Williams. This could be in combination with signing a quality SF in the $8M range to make up for not signing that big name PF. Theis backs up the 5 and 4. With Theis at the 5 any combination of the other 4 could be on the floor at the same time and any SF could pair with any PF when Vuc is in the game.


I’m thinking even cheaper. Like the Garret Temple of PFs.

Don’t think you can trust TBJ as your backup SF unless you have a Temple or Val returning. He’s injured a lot and hasn’t proven enough. We all think PW will be a lot better… but if he’s not we have a big hole at wing. Theis is a good fit but he’s more big than small ball 4. Ideally we get more of a big wing small ball 4.

I think Derozan can play small ball PF at his age but IMO he will take too many shots away from more efficient players. We need a really good defender that spaces the floor. Jae Crowder would be perfect.

If you want the Garret Temple of PF's, isn't that Taj?
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Post#36 » by LateNight » Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:31 pm

sco wrote:
Chi town wrote:
ChettheJet wrote:

My thought would be CHA is looking for something bigger than Theis, who is a solid pickup but maybe not as big a splash as CHA is looking to make.

The name that just came up as opting out, JayMicael Green from DEN. I don't think at his age you're looking at him as big minute a starter but he can shoot the ball and maybe he's a Thad Young replacement.

If plan A is to look to S&T Markkanen, trade Young and maybe move Aminu what's plan 1A? There aren't very many FAs on the market to spend a big contract on, so why not delay the big spend while concentrating on getting a PG?

DEN has just had Barton and Green opt out so they have even more cap space than they had a week ago to make use of which means increased competition for FAs.

The idea that hasn't come up at the PF is not one big name $24M starter but filling the position three smaller name $8M guys. Resign Theis, sign JayMichael Green and even use Williams. Troy Brown jr is there to back up Williams. This could be in combination with signing a quality SF in the $8M range to make up for not signing that big name PF. Theis backs up the 5 and 4. With Theis at the 5 any combination of the other 4 could be on the floor at the same time and any SF could pair with any PF when Vuc is in the game.


I’m thinking even cheaper. Like the Garret Temple of PFs.

Don’t think you can trust TBJ as your backup SF unless you have a Temple or Val returning. He’s injured a lot and hasn’t proven enough. We all think PW will be a lot better… but if he’s not we have a big hole at wing. Theis is a good fit but he’s more big than small ball 4. Ideally we get more of a big wing small ball 4.

I think Derozan can play small ball PF at his age but IMO he will take too many shots away from more efficient players. We need a really good defender that spaces the floor. Jae Crowder would be perfect.

If you want the Garret Temple of PF's, isn't that Taj?


Taj is playing for his favorite coach on his favorite team (he’s from NY). I think he rides that into retirement. But if not, I’m always up for bringing back one of my favorite all-time bulls
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Post#37 » by Red8911 » Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:43 pm

Little Nathan wrote:I think Aminu will be waived and stretched in a couple of days. He looked so done in the couple of minutes he played.
Aminu actually wasn’t bad for a couple of games that he played but there wasn’t any minutes or room for him on the rotation. If Lauri leaves he could be useful off the bench but yeah most likely he gets waived instead. Guess it all depends on if they need to get rid of his contract now.
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Post#38 » by MalagaBulls » Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:50 pm

What about this hair brained scheme idea? S&T Lauri ++ to Indiana for Myles Turner. He is definitely on the block and played a perimeter game with Sabonis and also was incredibly good defending the post and rim. Not saying it´s a perfect with Vooch but he can gun it from 3pt as he a 35% career on low to decent volume.
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Post#39 » by sco » Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:56 pm

MalagaBulls wrote:What about this hair brained scheme idea? S&T Lauri ++ to Indiana for Myles Turner. He is definitely on the block and played a perimeter game with Sabonis and also was incredibly good defending the post and rim. Not saying it´s a perfect with Vooch but he can gun it from 3pt as he a 35% career on low to decent volume.
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I'm pretty sure Indy can do better than say Lauri and White for Turner, but I'd do it all day long...heck, I'd just give them Lauri for their 2nd rounder.
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Post#40 » by Chi town » Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:58 pm

If Pacers are making deals I’d look to trade for TJ Warren. He’s be a great PF for us.

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