WOJ: NBA investigating possible tampering: Update Bulls forfeit 2nd Round Pick pg. 31

[fleet]

lol, weren't the bulls also the only team to get blowback for tank, er, load management? Nothing will come of this except maybe a fine thankfully.

And the Bulls basically stopped tanking iirc. They sure have a bug up their ass about the Bulls.

[Axl Rose]

Oh f*ck off.

[BeKuK]

To be honest, this was so clear and I was expecting this.

I was even surprised they announced the S&T so quick ....they should have been smarter, in particular after all those rumors about Ball to the Bulls came out.

[HomoSapien]

To be honest, this was so clear and I was expecting this.

I was even surprised they announced the S&T so quick ....they should have been smarter, in particular after all those rumors about Ball to the Bulls came out.

My thoughts exactly. I mean, if you announce a signing a minute or two after free-agency opens it's pretty clear something happened behind the scenes. If you're going to cheat, be smarter about it.

[fleet]

On August 2nd:

The whole league does this.

I mean, there were so many leaks that Ball to Chicago was a done deal, he intends to sign with Chicago in the opening minutes, etc. Same sort of thing happened to Lowry. Everyone may do it, but if you make it that obvious then what do you expect will happen?

You can bet whoever red ass GM is complaining did the same thing with Lonzo. With DDR, Marc went to DDRs house and sat on his couch for 2 hours while some other teams were trying to zoom call. The Bulls are playing it to the bone, but the basic charges should not be filed simply because the Bulls were the most effective in making things happen.

[Chicago-Bull-E]

Woj and Shams probably gonna lose sources over this. They only care about the race to first, don’t know why teams and agents care about sharing info in the first place.

[biggestbullsfan]

Part of me can’t help but wonder if this is Lauri tryna snitch cuz he ain’t get traded yet lol

[biggestbullsfan]

Woj and Shams probably gonna lose sources over this. They only care about the race to first, don’t know why teams and agents care about sharing info in the first place.

Leverage I’m guessing to make other teams pay more.

[HomoSapien]

The whole league does this.

I mean, there were so many leaks that Ball to Chicago was a done deal, he intends to sign with Chicago in the opening minutes, etc. Same sort of thing happened to Lowry. Everyone may do it, but if you make it that obvious then what do you expect will happen?

You can bet whoever red ass GM is complaining did the same thing with Lonzo. With DDR, Marc went to DDRs house and sat on his couch for 2 hours while some other teams were trying to zoom call. The Bulls are playing it to the bone, but the basic charges should not be filed simply because the Bulls were the most effective in making things happen.

I doubt NO reported it considering they clearly didn't want Ball back. It wouldn't shock me if a team like NY reported it, and honestly I can understand why. How are you feeling if you're a franchise that wants Ball, you follow the rules, and then when you contact his agent to start the process you're told he's already agreed to terms with Chicago?

I get everyone does it, but I also get that you'll get punished if you're obvious about it. Honestly, this is such a hard thing to enforce that they should change the rules to allowing outside teams to be able to contact players the minute their teams are eliminated from the playoffs.

[umfan83]

They can definitely void this sign/trade if they want to

they won't because I'd imagine the union would be up in arms. bulls might get fined will be the worst of it.

They probably won’t but they have done drastic things like this before so you can’t completely rule it out. There’s a reason why the Bulls haven’t made anything official yet

[fleet]

I mean, there were so many leaks that Ball to Chicago was a done deal, he intends to sign with Chicago in the opening minutes, etc. Same sort of thing happened to Lowry. Everyone may do it, but if you make it that obvious then what do you expect will happen?

You can bet whoever red ass GM is complaining did the same thing with Lonzo. With DDR, Marc went to DDRs house and sat on his couch for 2 hours while other teams were trying to zoom call. The Bulls are playing it to the bone, but the basic charges should not be filed simply because the Bulls were the most effective in making things happen.

I doubt NO reported it considering they clearly didn't want Ball back. It wouldn't shock me if a team like NY reported it, and honestly I can understand why. How are you feeling if you're a franchise that wants Ball, you follow the rules, and then when you contact his agent to start the process you're told he's already agreed to terms with Chicago?

I get everyone does it, but I also get that you'll get punished if you're obvious about it. Honestly, this is such a hard thing to enforce that they should change the rules to allowing outside teams to be able to contact players the minute their teams are eliminated from the playoffs.

Assuming the Knicks followed the rules is a large assumption. I imagine the Bulls are getting slammed because they won.

[Costa78]

So Bron and AD can meet with Russ weeks before FA to talk about their stupid super team, but when anyone else does it, the league investigates?

[weneeda2guard]

Btw I don't think much will come of this

For the most part the only talking that has been publicly done and can be proven is the communication between lavine and ball which has been known for close to a year now. Players talking is not against the rules and even if its a little that can be proven to be inappropriate, lavine has been with team USA while ball was here. So I don't expect much to come from this. The world knew we needed a pg. Ball let it be known he wanted Chicago.

[dougthonus]

I doubt NO reported it considering they clearly didn't want Ball back. It wouldn't shock me if a team like NY reported it, and honestly I can understand why. How are you feeling if you're a franchise that wants Ball, you follow the rules, and then when you contact his agent to start the process you're told he's already agreed to terms with Chicago?

I get everyone does it, but I also get that you'll get punished if you're obvious about it. Honestly, this is such a hard thing to enforce that they should change the rules to allowing outside teams to be able to contact players the minute their teams are eliminated from the playoffs.

I don't think the Bulls are victims if they get fined or anything, but the problem with these rules on the NBA and when they enforce them is that they enforce them over stupid stuff.

When LeBron enticed AD out of NOP, that had real, serious affects and was dangerous tampering. Same with other player / player tampering.

The fines they tend to levy are ridiculous stuff like an executive on a TV saying something like "Giannis is a generational talent" as if it's some controversial thing or these types of things where who really cares about negotiations? The league should probably just allow Agent/Team contact for any player who's season has ended and is an impending FA but not allow any types of agreements even unofficial ones until this date (which is effectively what is happening and isn't harming anything).

Either way, it's just one of those things where they aren't preventing the real harm here. It's like red light cameras at stop lights that are set up only at intersections where people turn right on red a lot without complete stops. You aren't even beginning to attempt to create public safety, just fine people.

[Costa78]

Plus how can it be tampering if we haven’t even finalized the deal yet?

[Magilla_Gorilla]

On August 2nd:

The whole league does this.

I mean, there were so many leaks that Ball to Chicago was a done deal, he intends to sign with Chicago in the opening minutes, etc. Same sort of thing happened to Lowry. Everyone may do it, but if you make it that obvious then what do you expect will happen?

I expect them to do nothing. Just as they have always done.

[dougthonus]

Plus how can it be tampering if we haven’t even finalized the deal yet?

It clearly was tampering though, but all these deals are clearly tampering. There was obviously contact made in most of these cases between the teams and players before it was officially allowed. The problem is the rules though. They're not allowing contact at a point where contact is irrelevant.

[jacoby1us]

So we get tamper investigations and the Lakers don't after all that shyt with AD? This is ridiculous!

[Darius Miles Davis]

Yeah, in a league with Lebron James, the Bulls are the ones to go after.

Players can recruit all they want. Not illegal.


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[dougthonus]

Odd thing is they are doing it over S&Ts.

I'm not sure about the rules exactly, but it sure seems WAY more legitimate that a S&T is worked out earlier than just a straight contract. I mean the team can talk to their own player right? Two teams can talk about a trade too.