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Re: Bump thread for Kevin Durant 

Post#21 » by dougthonus » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:02 pm

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Chi town wrote:I’ll take KD but only for a package where can contend.


Probably the only way KD lands in Chicago is if he explicitly calls out Chicago as the place he wants to land.


Honest question: would it be worth it to go all in on a soon to be 34 year old KD?


If you had enough to be a legit contender afterwards, yes.
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Re: Bump thread for Kevin Durant 

Post#22 » by JimmyButler21 » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:08 pm

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superdave wrote:Durant for Derozan, P-Will, and Coby works under the CAP. There, I said it.

I forgot about P-Will. Make him available too, as well as the guy we drafted 18th.

PG- Ball
SG- Lavine
SF- Green
PF- Durant
C- Vucevic

Bench- DJJ, Caruso, MLE.

If we can keep Ayo even better but no one should be off limits.


Honestly, that's not a championship or even contending team to be honest...

Yes, the Bulls are not going to contend for championships with their current group. You go all in on KD to a reasonable extent.
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Re: Bump thread for Kevin Durant 

Post#23 » by umfan83 » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:09 pm

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Chi town wrote:I’ll take KD but only for a package where can contend.


Probably the only way KD lands in Chicago is if he explicitly calls out Chicago as the place he wants to land.


Either way the Bulls should be asking about him. I'm not sure if his relationship with Zach is as strong as people say it is, but they do have a "thing" so I'd be wary of KD trying to lure him and Zach to another destination. Not sure if that's even possible, and if it is possible whether Zach would be willing to take less to do a team up...my guess is he will take the money but you never know...

But back to your point, if KD was willing to go to a list of teams, that list of teams probably has a better collection of assets to offer the Nets than the Bulls, assuming that they will have to rebuild by getting rid of Kyrie and AD. So ultimately you are right that the only way he comes here is if he says he wants to come here.
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Re: Bump thread for Kevin Durant 

Post#24 » by Ctownbulls » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:15 pm

nomorezorro wrote:don't sleep on the suns as a destination for kd
I think they are probably one of the most realistic destinations.

The Bulls have nothing to offer.

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Re: Bump thread for Kevin Durant 

Post#25 » by HomoSapien » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:17 pm

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Probably the only way KD lands in Chicago is if he explicitly calls out Chicago as the place he wants to land.


Agreed. I’d say it’s actually high odds too considering his relationship w Zach.

I’d say we are 30/40%.

Heat, Nuggs, Wiz all 15%


I can't imagine why he'd choose us. He'll want to contend for a ring immediately. Hard to see how that is Chicago over Miami (or any number of other teams).


I doubt he'll give just one team. He'll give his list of acceptable destinations and the Nets will select between various trade packages. At first glance, I can't see Brooklyn agreeing to a deal with Miami because they'd be forced to take back Duncan Robinson and Lowry's expensive contracts to match.

In some ways, we're a good trade partner because we wouldn't need to send out undesirable contracts to make it work.
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Re: Bump thread for Kevin Durant 

Post#26 » by HomoSapien » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:19 pm

The base of our offer would likely be: Pat Williams, Vuc, Coby White, the Blazers pick, and some sort of future considerations for KD. We might have to also include Ayo and/or Terry.

That's not a bad return for BKN if they're looking to rebuild, especially if Vuc can be sent to a 3rd team for some additional draft compensation.
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Re: Bump thread for Kevin Durant 

Post#27 » by kodo » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:23 pm

If KD just wanted the surest route to a title, he just stays in Golden State. Obviously easy titles was not his motivation. There's more to his team choice.

Regardless of what's going on in his head, he'll have a very small list and it won't matter for most of the league, no matter what kind of assets they have. I'd say it's a long shot of Chicago being on it, it's a shame we made no moves at the trade deadline and didn't show better at the end of the season.
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Re: Bump thread for Kevin Durant 

Post#28 » by HomoSapien » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:27 pm

kodo wrote:If KD just wanted the surest route to a title, he just stays in Golden State. Obviously easy titles was not his motivation. There's more to his team choice.

Regardless of what's going on in his head, he'll have a very small list and it won't matter for most of the league, no matter what kind of assets they have. I'd say it's a long shot of Chicago being on it, it's a shame we made no moves at the trade deadline and didn't show better at the end of the season.


His legacy is obviously very much on his mind and he's extremely sensitive about how people view him. Bringing a championship back to a storied but dormant franchise like Chicago or NY would do a lot for his rep. NY is obviously too far away, but Chicago was in first place for half the season. He likes DeRozan and LaVine, and both of them are dependable, hard-working, no-drama, hoopers. After playing with Harden and Kyrie, I'm sure our guys would be a breath of much needed fresh air for him.

The bigger point, in my opinion, is Donovan. KD had some burner account controversy by talking about how he didn't like playing with BD, but also was extremely remorseful for hurting him and apparently called him afterward to apologize.
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Re: Bump thread for Kevin Durant 

Post#29 » by Chicago-Bull-E » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:28 pm

Miami fans seem content offering Bam, Herro, Duncan Robinson, and 2 1sts for KD and Curry.

So realistically, the Bulls can't come close to that offer. KD would have to explicitly state he is either playing in Chicago or isn't playing at all.
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Re: Bump thread for Kevin Durant 

Post#30 » by OldSchoolNoBull » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:31 pm

Chicago-Bull-E wrote:Miami fans seem content offering Bam, Herro, Duncan Robinson, and 2 1sts for KD and Curry.

So realistically, the Bulls can't come close to that offer. KD would have to explicitly state he is either playing in Chicago or isn't playing at all.


Just because Miami fans are content offering that doesn't necessarily mean Pat Riley is content offering that.
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Re: Bump thread for Kevin Durant 

Post#31 » by HomoSapien » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:31 pm

Chicago-Bull-E wrote:Miami fans seem content offering Bam, Herro, Duncan Robinson, and 2 1sts for KD and Curry.

So realistically, the Bulls can't come close to that offer. KD would have to explicitly state he is either playing in Chicago or isn't playing at all.


I can't imagine they'd offer Bam. I think they'd definitely offer Herro, but Bam is so integral to their success. Is Riley really going to mortgage the future for a 34-year-old Duran and a shot a ring? I lean no, but he did do it for Shaq.

You're right though, if Bam is on the table then no one's beating that offer.
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Re: Bump thread for Kevin Durant 

Post#32 » by WindyCityBorn » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:40 pm

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Chicago-Bull-E wrote:Miami fans seem content offering Bam, Herro, Duncan Robinson, and 2 1sts for KD and Curry.

So realistically, the Bulls can't come close to that offer. KD would have to explicitly state he is either playing in Chicago or isn't playing at all.


I can't imagine they'd offer Bam. I think they'd definitely offer Herro, but Bam is so integral to their success. Is Riley really going to mortgage the future for a 34-year-old Duran and a shot a ring? I lean no, but he did do it for Shaq.

You're right though, if Bam is on the table then no one's beating that offer.


That’s basically what the Bulls would be doing. Durant might have two good years left but if he can stay healthy which is serious question mark at this point.
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Re: Bump thread for Kevin Durant 

Post#33 » by chitownsports4ever » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:42 pm

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nomorezorro wrote:don't sleep on the suns as a destination for kd
I think they are probably one of the most realistic destinations.

The Bulls have nothing to offer.

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Demar, Pat, Coby, Ayo and picks

The Nets then resign Claxton

Claxton
Pat
Harris
Demar/ Curry/ Coby
Simmons /Ayo

This doesn't even take into account what the would get for Kyrie so they would have a ton of assets
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Re: Bump thread for Kevin Durant 

Post#34 » by OldSchoolNoBull » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:46 pm

chitownsports4ever wrote:
Ctownbulls wrote:
nomorezorro wrote:don't sleep on the suns as a destination for kd
I think they are probably one of the most realistic destinations.

The Bulls have nothing to offer.

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Demar, Pat, Coby, Ayo and picks

The Nets then resign Claxton

Claxton
Pat
Harris
Demar/ Curry/ Coby
Simmons /Ayo

This doesn't even take into account what the would get for Kyrie so they would have a ton of assets


Vuc instead of DeMar. They can start Curry at SG. I assume AKME and KD would want Zach/DeMar/KD to be together.
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Re: Bump thread for Kevin Durant 

Post#35 » by ImSlower » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:48 pm

Our packages can't compete, and the on-court product if we got him would be sub-par to his other options. We're a non-starter on this hypothetical.

So strange to think that it wasn't that long ago that the Nets were an up-and-coming team with a lot of great pieces working cohesively, and seemed to be a 1A star away from dominance. Now they have three of the most polarizing stars in this era of disgruntled stars.
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Re: Bump thread for Kevin Durant 

Post#36 » by _txchilibowl_ » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:49 pm

Oft-injured, malcontent, aging superstar who is leaving his current team high and dry yet again because winning wasn't easy enough....

How could you say no?! What could possibly go wrong??
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Re: Bump thread for Kevin Durant 

Post#37 » by chitownsports4ever » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:50 pm

Chicago-Bull-E wrote:Miami fans seem content offering Bam, Herro, Duncan Robinson, and 2 1sts for KD and Curry.

So realistically, the Bulls can't come close to that offer. KD would have to explicitly state he is either playing in Chicago or isn't playing at all.


Miami is already paper thin as is so doing that trade doesn't get them close to being contenders as long they have to depend on Lowry they are screwed so they would have to choose either get a big to replace Bam and try and preserve Jimmy and KD for the long season or get a viable PG.
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Re: Bump thread for Kevin Durant 

Post#38 » by Bullflip » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:52 pm

OldSchoolNoBull wrote:
chitownsports4ever wrote:
Ctownbulls wrote:I think they are probably one of the most realistic destinations.

The Bulls have nothing to offer.

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Demar, Pat, Coby, Ayo and picks

The Nets then resign Claxton

Claxton
Pat
Harris
Demar/ Curry/ Coby
Simmons /Ayo

This doesn't even take into account what the would get for Kyrie so they would have a ton of assets


Vuc instead of DeMar. They can start Curry at SG. I assume AKME and KD would want Zach/DeMar/KD to be together.


Are there enough shots to go around for Zach, Demar, AND Durant? Not to mention the defense would be horrible. I would probably trade Demar
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Re: Bump thread for Kevin Durant 

Post#39 » by chitownsports4ever » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:53 pm

OldSchoolNoBull wrote:
chitownsports4ever wrote:
Ctownbulls wrote:I think they are probably one of the most realistic destinations.

The Bulls have nothing to offer.

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Demar, Pat, Coby, Ayo and picks

The Nets then resign Claxton

Claxton
Pat
Harris
Demar/ Curry/ Coby
Simmons /Ayo

This doesn't even take into account what the would get for Kyrie so they would have a ton of assets


Vuc instead of DeMar. They can start Curry at SG. I assume AKME and KD would want Zach/DeMar/KD to be together.


Demar would have no role in that lineup and cant shoot the three so how would he help KD ? If KD comes Demar is now 3rd in the pecking order ?
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Re: Bump thread for Kevin Durant 

Post#40 » by PJSteven22 » Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:54 pm

Chicago-Bull-E wrote:Miami fans seem content offering Bam, Herro, Duncan Robinson, and 2 1sts for KD and Curry.

So realistically, the Bulls can't come close to that offer. KD would have to explicitly state he is either playing in Chicago or isn't playing at all.

The fans aren’t the GMs. Why do people insist this?

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